Where does Mason Manville fit in?
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I'd just wrestle Hall straight through and give him 2 years at 174.
See what I did there?
See what I did there?
Sure, if you want to redshirt Hall next year. But tOSU will be tough.
Manville and AJ Nevills both deferred enrollment until next year (grayshirt). Their NCAA clocks don't start ticking until August.
Manville is going the Matt Brown route -- Army ROTC.
Try the Search function (the magnifying glass in the upper right of the window). You'll find that most subjects have been discussed, and fully detailed, on this board. I believe Manville's situation was pretty thoroughly discussed in October, 2016.
Last interview he stated he was weighing in the low 180s.
As far as old HS rivals are doing this year:
Parriott hasnt wrestled much. 2-2 taking close losses to Short and Dayton Racer at 157.
Hidlay is doing excellent at 13-2 with losses to Kemerer and Shields.
And remember what seemed like a head-scratching loss at FloNationals to Connor Flynn late in the 3rd period? Flynn is 16-3 wrestling unattached for Mizzou this year with a couple wins over Kaleb Young.
As far as old HS rivals are doing this year:
Parriott hasnt wrestled much. 2-2 taking close losses to Short and Dayton Racer at 157.
Hidlay is doing excellent at 13-2 with losses to Kemerer and Shields.
And remember what seemed like a head-scratching loss at FloNationals to Connor Flynn late in the 3rd period? Flynn is 16-3 wrestling unattached for Mizzou this year with a couple wins over Kaleb Young.
Who could have foreseen just how important, say, Jordan Conaway would be?
I will be extremely surprised if this happens. Manville's last HS losses were in OT to Marinelli at Ironman, to Hidlay in a few offseason tournaments (one in freestyle, one in greco I think) - he later avenged these losses twice during the season, and to Connor Flynn on a last second reversal at FloNationals one year.
Marinell is a sure-fire 4x AA according to some (I joke, but the fact remains he is a TOP recruit), Hidlay is 13-2 in his true freshman season with close losses to Kemerer and Shields, and Flynn is 16-3 on the season, having beaten Kaleb Young twice. That is pretty ELITE for recruits.
I guess some see Manville's grinding style and don't see the upside. Yeah, he's probably not going to be Nolf...
I've followed his career, seen many interviews, etc. He's a highly motivated kid who likes to work, tremendous student. Loves wrestling and has a military mindset. Is never injured, never any flakiness exhibited, wrestles everywhere ON HIS OWN, is not afraid to challenge himself by going above his head for competition and take some losses. All of the above are critical indicators of success in D1 wrestling. Much more so than what many on this board look for.
He will be just fine at PSU. He is a tremendous recruit and fits the PSU mold.
There was originally some talk about him at 49 or 57, but others posted he's more in the 74 range now. But since 165 and 174 are taken, could he consider 84? I can see Bo moving to 97 for his senior year, opening up 84 after a redshirt year for Mason. Don't kill me, yes I know that's a long shot, and he'd be giving up a lot of height to other 84s. But if he wants in the lineup I'm not sure what other options he has.
With Whittlake, he could redshirt a year, then move into 97 after Bo graduates.
With Whittlake, he could redshirt a year, then move into 97 after Bo graduates.
Watching him wrestle, I am reminded of Matt Brown. Nobody minded Matt Brown being on the squad, even if it looked like there might not be a spot for him on the team. He found his way to one and did just fine.
Manville will be a credit to our program regardless, even if he (somehow) never wrestles in a single dual or varsity level tournament.
Interesting discussion...I'm a Mason Manville fan too, if for nothing else than the way he carries himself. And all ROTC's have my complete admiration.
In the bigger picture, just look out 2, 3, 4 years and you'll wonder where all the recruits and current wrestlers will fit, not just Mason. Too early to predict who ends where, just saying there's going to be guys that could start elsewhere for 4 years that may get 2 or 3 here.
In the bigger picture, just look out 2, 3, 4 years and you'll wonder where all the recruits and current wrestlers will fit, not just Mason. Too early to predict who ends where, just saying there's going to be guys that could start elsewhere for 4 years that may get 2 or 3 here.
It's not about being a fan or not, rather that it's better to squash the "next big thing" type of conversations that lend themselves to bashing these kids later for their "disappointing underperformance". I can give examples. Here and now ones. We're better off taking the pressure off and just letting the recruits work hard, and whatever comes of that we should all be proud of. And they should be as well. We just got done seeing a review of all the 4x PA state champs on here and how 1/2 them didn't materialize, and that's why it's better to advocate keeping expectations low.
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Remember, since Manville is ROTC, he will not count against the 9.9.
Fantastic luxury to have. It also takes some stress off of the NLWC Slush Fund.
Fantastic luxury to have. It also takes some stress off of the NLWC Slush Fund.
His mental approach to wrestling is certainly elite, which is a very big asset for him and I would never bet against him.
Mason is a quality kid who works extremely hard and will represent PSU very well. I'm looking forward to seeing what he can do once he gets to campus. Don't count this kid out!
Agree with this , why worry by all accounts seems like a good kid doing all the right things. Will be a great representative of PSU, has a history of seeking competition and wants to serve our country. I can't be happier to have someone like this on the team.
I don't know who the coaches are after, but the 2 guys I'd watch most closely are 120 #6 Beau Bartlett (Seminary FR) and 152 #3 Julian Ramirez (Blair SO).
The best wrestler on either team is Blair 220 Chase Singletary, but next year he'll be working on his tan.
Early word out of Sem is that Bartlett is interested in Ivy League schools. Obviously a lot can change over the next couple years.
Tiger are you going to the Sem meet tonight? I will be there with my kid and Father.
Now that I'm on my laptop instead of my phone ... here are the ranked guys on both teams. All are (I think) uncommitted unless otherwise noted:
106 - #9 Nico Incontrera, Blair FR
113 - #4 Michael Colaiocco, Blair SO
120 - #6 Bartlett
126 - #18 Chris Cannon, Blair SO vs. #20 Jack Davis, Seminary JR
132 - #6 Zach Sherman, Blair SR (UNC)
138 - #7 Malcolm Robinson, Blair JR (Rutgers)
152 - #3 Ramirez
160 - #12 Andrew Merola, Blair JR
220 - #1 Singletary (Tanning Bed U.)
Davis is a Greco world team member and from PA.
Former PA state champ Jake Riegel is also at Seminary, guessing 126 or 132, a SR.
106 - #9 Nico Incontrera, Blair FR
113 - #4 Michael Colaiocco, Blair SO
120 - #6 Bartlett
126 - #18 Chris Cannon, Blair SO vs. #20 Jack Davis, Seminary JR
132 - #6 Zach Sherman, Blair SR (UNC)
138 - #7 Malcolm Robinson, Blair JR (Rutgers)
152 - #3 Ramirez
160 - #12 Andrew Merola, Blair JR
220 - #1 Singletary (Tanning Bed U.)
Davis is a Greco world team member and from PA.
Former PA state champ Jake Riegel is also at Seminary, guessing 126 or 132, a SR.
We are the Ivy League of wrestling.
I thought about it, but my girls haven't expressed any interest in going and I'm not real motivated to leave the house after just getting home. Probably going to sit back and watch PSU tonight.
I understand, Lots of entertaining wrestling going on tonight, Sem, Okie, and PSU.
and probably in the summer, and then probably the October before and on and on and on and on hahaha
Josh Lowe of InterMat's recruiting rankings by class:
Class Rank First Last School St Weight College
2019 31 Michael Coliaocco Blair Academy NJ 113
2020 1 Beau Bartlett Wyoming Seminary PA 120
2019 19 Mike Madara Blair Academy NJ 120
2019 15 Chris Cannon Blair Academy NJ 126
2017 64 Zach Sherman Blair Academy NJ 132 North Carolina
2020 20 Alfonso Martinez Wyoming Seminary PA 145
2019 4 Julian Ramirez Blair Academy NJ 152
2018 33 Andrew Merola Blair Academy NJ 160
2017 6 Chase Singletary Blair Academy NJ 220 Ohio State
