Who EXACTLY was on the 'Special Investigation Task Force'?

[PSUEngineerx2]

Was this discussed previously?

Read the 1st paragraph. Does anyone know EXACTLY who these people are?

http://progress.psu.edu/progress/special-investigation-task-force

 

[jjsocrates]

Was this discussed previously?

Read the 1st paragraph. Does anyone know EXACTLY who these people are?

http://progress.psu.edu/progress/special-investigation-task-force

Led by trustees Kenneth Frazier as chair and Ronald Tomalis as vice chair, the Task Force was comprised of University Trustees, a student, a faculty member and a distinguished alumnus.

It was just Frazier and Tomalis. Don't let anybody tell you otherwise.

 

[PSUEngineerx2]

Yea, probably true. I just noticed this earlier today...i.e., who were these people?

Seriously...who the f were these people?

 

[lionlurker]

It's just amazing to me that a public institution that has the size and the budget of PSU, essentially has no adults that are ultimately in charge of it. Just a BOT that is self-replicating, like a virus, all of whom have a financially symbiotic relationship with the university thru this appointment.

I can't believe the PG and the Inky don't care about this. At the very least, every PA citizen should be jealous that they themselves don't get a 3yr appt that allows them unlimited power and access to money.

 

[PSUEngineerx2]

https://twitter.com/JmmyW/status/590563316352843776?s=09


Jimmy just answered this on Twitter.

None of these other people have ever said a word, have they?

They should ALL be subpoenaed.

 

[WeR0206]

Yea, probably true. I just noticed this earlier today...i.e., who were these people?

Seriously...who the f were these people?

The list of SITF names sounds like a who's who of corrupt scumbags. The names that stand out to me are: Frazier, Tomalis, Eckel, Dambly, and Peetz. I'm sure the other SITF members besides the ones I listed above were just lackey's placed on it for rubber stamping purposes.

IMO every single one of the SITF members should be subpoenaed/deposed and then removed due to breach of fiduciary duties. It will be VERY interesting to see where discovery leads in the Alum trustee, Paterno, Spanier, and other lawsuits...

 

[Evan Ceg]

It's just amazing to me that a public institution that has the size and the budget of PSU, essentially has no adults that are ultimately in charge of it. Just a BOT that is self-replicating, like a virus, all of whom have a financially symbiotic relationship with the university thru this appointment.

I can't believe the PG and the Inky don't care about this. At the very least, every PA citizen should be jealous that they themselves don't get a 3yr appt that allows them unlimited power and access to money.

The prerogatives of the BoT members aren't much different than the prerogatives of trustees at any other university.

The Inquirer and the Post-Gazette aren't interested in Penn State's BoT because the public isn't interested in the BoT. Most Penn State students couldn't tell you who Keith Masser or Ken Frazier are. The public cares about the decisions of 2001. The public is indifferent to the internal squabbles and poor decisions made in 2011 and 2012.

If it ever happens that a BoT member is arrested for Scandal-related issues, that will make headlines for one day.

 

[Aoshiro]

If it ever happens that a BoT member is arrested for Scandal-related issues, that will make headlines for one day.

Well, I don't think that he'll be arrested, but if Kenneth Frazier were arrested you can bet that it would make headlines for more than one day. He's the CEO of a Fortune 100 company, for crissakes.

 

[lionlurker]

I have a feeling that someday we may get to test out that theory, Evan.

And by the way, most US citizens didn't know who Daniel Ellsburg was, either, until they got educated on his situation by the Washington Post. If some Pennsylvania citizens knew more of the details, maybe they would indeed care more about this.

As for the students, they are a lost cause, apparently.

 

[Evan Ceg]

I have a feeling that someday we may get to test out that theory, Evan.

And by the way, most US citizens didn't know who Daniel Ellsburg was, either, until they got educated on his situation by the Washington Post. If some Pennsylvania citizens knew more of the details, maybe they would indeed care more about this.

As for the students, they are a lost cause, apparently.

For the PSU alums reading this thread, Did you know the name of the Penn State board chairman when you were a student? I confess I did not. I certainly knew who the president was (John Oswald at the time), but I barely knew there was a BoT.

 

[WeR0206]

It's just amazing to me that a public institution that has the size and the budget of PSU, essentially has no adults that are ultimately in charge of it. Just a BOT that is self-replicating, like a virus, all of whom have a financially symbiotic relationship with the university thru this appointment.

I can't believe the PG and the Inky don't care about this. At the very least, every PA citizen should be jealous that they themselves don't get a 3yr appt that allows them unlimited power and access to money.

Agreed! I also find it amazing that the Alum Trustees are STILL being denied access to email communications that their fellow trustees on the SITF were having between the NCAA, B10, and PA OAG and they are now having to resort to filing motions to compel and most likely a lawsuit just to see the emails. How are trustees denied access to emails that their fellow trustees were sending that involved university business??

It's absolutely absurd that the Alum Trustees have to jump through all these hoops just to see info that other trustees are already privy to....and the media doesn't see anything remotely weird/suspicious about that....smh

 

[Aoshiro]

For the PSU alums reading this thread, Did you know the name of the Penn State board chairman when you were a student? I confess I did not. I certainly knew who the president was (John Oswald at the time), but I barely knew there was a BoT.

Probably depends when you were a student and if you were politically involved. In the early 70s there was lots of turmoil on campus, including riots, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was coverage of BoT decisions in the Daily Collegian. I remember a lot of fuss about the ARL water tunnel, for example.

But it's natural that people aren't too interested in how the sausage is made when the sausage is rolling off the conveyor belt OK. People will care about how the sausage is made when the works get gummed up, though. In that respect, the BoT played its cards right when it cut a deal with the NCAA that didn't shut down football. If they had done that, the students would have been pretty pissed off about the lack of sausage. They would have been protesting BoT meetings along with the alums.

 

[Offside Clyde]

For the PSU alums reading this thread, Did you know the name of the Penn State board chairman when you were a student? I confess I did not. I certainly knew who the president was (John Oswald at the time), but I barely knew there was a BoT.

I graduated in 2001. I can honestly say I had no idea. In fact, I paid almost no attention to the activities of the BOT until this mess.

 

[simons96]

I graduated in 2001. I can honestly say I had no idea. In fact, I paid almost no attention to the activities of the BOT until this mess.

I graduated in 1996. No clue who was on the BoT. I hate to indulge in conspiracy theories, but if you look at the progression of the coup to put an isolated and insulated cabal of business interests in charge of the University, it appears to have originated some time around 2001, progressed significantly around 2004, then "players" were put in place circa 2009/2010 in seeming anticipation for the "Sandusky Scandal"

 

[Evan Ceg]

I graduated in 1996. No clue who was on the BoT. I hate to indulge in conspiracy theories, but if you look at the progression of the coup to put an isolated and insulated cabal of business interests in charge of the University, it appears to have originated some time around 2001, progressed significantly around 2004, then "players" were put in place circa 2009/2010 in seeming anticipation for the "Sandusky Scandal"

So, simons96, your conspiracy theory makes Penn State guilty of malfeasance or something much worse in dealing with the 2001 McQueary report. That would make all the condemnations of Penn State accurate.

Fortunately, I find your conspiracy far-fetched, as you inasmuch admitted.

 

[simons96]

So, simons96, your conspiracy theory makes Penn State guilty of malfeasance or something much worse in dealing with the 2001 McQueary report. That would make all the condemnations of Penn State accurate.

Fortunately, I find your conspiracy far-fetched, as you inasmuch admitted.

unh, not exactly what I was saying, but . . .

 

[psu1969a]

Probably depends when you were a student and if you were politically involved. In the early 70s there was lots of turmoil on campus, including riots, and I wouldn't be surprised if there was coverage of BoT decisions in the Daily Collegian. I remember a lot of fuss about the ARL water tunnel, for example.

But it's natural that people aren't too interested in how the sausage is made when the sausage is rolling off the conveyor belt OK. People will care about how the sausage is made when the works get gummed up, though. In that respect, the BoT played its cards right when it cut a deal with the NCAA that didn't shut down football. If they had done that, the students would have been pretty pissed off about the lack of sausage. They would have been protesting BoT meetings along with the alums.

That is what was needed, REVOLUTION by the students instead of abject apathy.

 

[jjsocrates]

So, simons96, your conspiracy theory makes Penn State guilty of malfeasance or something much worse in dealing with the 2001 McQueary report. That would make all the condemnations of Penn State accurate.

Fortunately, I find your conspiracy far-fetched, as you inasmuch admitted.

Um, yeah. Just replace Penn State (and by extention, Paterno, Curley, Schultz, the football program and 500k alumni) with a certain select corrupt cabal of members on the BoT, and you've pretty much NAILED what simons was saying.

 

[simons96]

Um, yeah. Just replace Penn State (and by extention, Paterno, Curley, Schultz, the football program and 500k alumni) with a certain select corrupt cabal of members on the BoT, and you've pretty much NAILED what simons was saying.

I was referring to how the business interests began consolidating their power on the BoT, to make them unaccountable to anyone else