Why was no class action suit filed regarding the collusion between the BoT and NCAA and the set up of Joe?
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Why Didn't It Happen?
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You don't .
Penn State degrees were devalued, employees were openly ridiçuled and told they wouldn't be hired elsewhere. Employers were openly stating they would not hire anyone from Penn State. Businesses suffered loss of sales. There was more.
Now put your finger next to your head.
In your goozie.
Why is it that every board has a handful of fools that have to go out of their way to prove how stupid they are?
Yes, you LM and 1969a.
Yes, you LM and 1969a.
Penn State merch was yanked from shelves. Stores quit accepting Penn State merch.
Lies and fairytales were the order of the day. Every lawyer I spoke to was terrified about their practice.
Fear isn't indifference, it's cowardice.
Lies and fairytales were the order of the day. Every lawyer I spoke to was terrified about their practice.
Fear isn't indifference, it's cowardice.
When you post crap like this you basically are screaming out "please troll the ever living crap out me me and my dumb post"
To the victor goes the spoils, and the opportunity to write the history books. That doesn't mean the good guys always win, or that history and truth go hand in hand. This is one instance where I can assure you it does not.
A political vendetta that got way out of hand. Then the SM got implicated and a deal was done. There were casualties. The BOT was exposed for what it still is… ROT.
The problem with the BoT was they had members, family and friends at TSM. TSM had a clause in the by laws that members would not be indemnified who were involved in wrong doing.
Facing financial ruin, the BoT concocted a further Joe scenario, and Sandusky. Enter the shredder trucks in record time along with shutting down TSM. Law Enforcement stood idly by.
The shit eating BoT had gotten away with their crime, assisted by the turd Corbett, and varied people in LE.
I don't think that was enough to explain what happened. The BoT would have broken ranks, IMO. Throwing PSU and Joe under the bus to protect some BoT members seems too much like throwing the baby out with the bathwater.
At the end of the day, it was the BoT that authorized Jerry's access to the facilities. However, not one of the PSU related cases held up under scrutiny. Too many things to go into now, but clearly the successful effort to make PSU the epicenter of Jerry's activities was manufactured to deflect attention from something much larger. Otherwise, IMO, PSU would have fought for its reputation.
The real estate King Bruce Heim was in this up to his neck. He had strong ties to the BoT.
I think also the timing of this hit soon after the BP deepwater disaster in which BP completely fell on the sword. I think there were BOT members who thought the Sandusky situation should be handled the same way to minimize potential damage to PSU. Unfortunately, this led to the widespread assumption that there was a managed coverup by Joe, Spanier, etc. There were enough people with an axe to grind who loved having an opportunity to demonize Joe (and Spanier) and will never be willing to accept evidence to the contrary (e.g. Pitt fans). I expect we will see the usual suspects show up on this thread to spew their nonsense.
I know, but so what? He offered to let Jerry bring TSM kids to the Hilton Garden Inn after Tim took Jerry's guest privileges away. No rational businessman would expose himself and his partners like this knowingly.
Once it became known that Tim reported the McQueary incident to Raykovitz, and his response was to simply have Jerry wear swim trunks in the shower, PSU should have been out of it.
Clearly, none of these people believed Jerry was diddling kids. That doesn't mean he wasn't, but for the purposes of this discussion, the damage to PSU should have been negligible, IMO.
Tom Corbett, as the saying goes, knows where the bodies are buried. Speaking of bodies, whatever happened to Ray Gricar?
Yes, Corbutt was a driving force. As far as Gricar goes, JJ provided 3 scenarios.LE pegged JJ as a kook.
TSM was a gold mine for the BoT , family and friends. Heim didn't just offer he gave Jerry keys.
Still have almost zero PSU presence in College Football Hall of Fame.
I just think it was bigger than that. The financial damage to PSU, the damage to its reputation, etc., dwarf what you're talking about. IMO, there had to be a massive carrot/stick combo that compelled the BOT to roll over. Merck research money? Hershey Foundation money? Was TSM involved in human trafficking? There was something bigger than Jerry Sandusky going on.
I believe Corbett was under orders from someone much higher up on the food chain to deflect attention away from TSM and onto PSU. That narrative was carved in stone by Lannie Davis and Louis Freeh and no one questioned it. No one in the media even questioned what was being done to Joe. That unanimity comes at a price. In today's world, Big Pharma advertising is literally the lifeblood of legacy media. Thus, you won't find a single story about vaccine injuries/deaths. We live in a world of narratives.
Let me make two points to support my argument.
The first one involves a single PSU related Sandusky case. For those of us who followed this closely at the time, it's known as the Janitor case. It goes like this: A janitor supposedly sees Jerry on campus (I don't believe this was said to have occurred in Lasch.) giving oral sex to a boy. Jerry was convicted on all four counts, including child rape.
Here are the facts of the case:
1) There was no victim identified.
2) There was no report of a crime
3) There was no established time of the crime
4) There was no physical evidence of a crime
5) There was no witness.*
*There was a witness, a janitor, but he was deemed unfit to testify due to cognitive impairment. So the court allowed hearsay testimony from another janitor. But here's the kicker! The actual witness, when asked point blank if Jerry Sandusky was the man he saw, said "No"!
Now I'm not an attorney, but I do know that every one of us has the right to face our accuser in court, even Jerry Sandusky. There's no way that any self respecting judge lets these charges go to trial. This particular case should have been thrown out. In fact, I would argue that including this case set the groundwork for a mistrial of the whole thing. Of course, Sandusky has repeatedly hit a brick wall when it comes to appeals and a new trial. If they had Jerry dead to rights on the other charges, this case should have never seen the light of day.
Again, my point is not to say Sandusky is innocent of all charges. I'm simply arguing that establishing PSU as the epicenter of Jerry's activities was a strategy designed to take the focus off of TSM, and the inclusion of this case was an example of that.
My second point has to do with C/S/S and I've argued this before. The Commonwealth spent six years and $ millions of taxpayer dollars to prosecute those three. And at the end of the day, it was forced to drop all fifteen felony charges against them. IOW, it wasn't able to prove there was a conspiracy to conceal Jerry's activities in an effort to protect the football program. Without a conspiracy, the whole PSU/Sandusky narrative falls apart. Arguably, the narrative that said Jerry fooled a lot of people, put forth in the Thornburg report, makes a lot more sense than the now debunked "opinions" and "reasonable conclusions" we got out of Louis Freeh.
So why hasn't the BOT done a mea culpa? What's stopping it from publicly saying that it overreacted, that it was unduly influenced by Tom Corbett, who went from prosecutor (after the disappearance of Gricar), to Governor/BOT member? Clearly, Corbett had a conflict of interest, at the very least.
Doesn't it now have the grounds to repudiate the Freeh report, for which the BOT paid $6 million?
I'm simply saying that the current BOT has the legal and moral grounds to undue much of the reputational damage wrongly inflicted on PSU. I would argue self inflicted. At the very least, it should be actively repairing Joe's good name, which would go a long way towards mending much of the internal conflict within the PSU community that persists even now.
What happened at UM, OSU and MSU was far worse from an institutional standpoint than what was even alleged to have happened at PSU. Why hasn't the university made any effort to right this great wrong?
The narrative put the focus on PSU to keep it away from TSM. IMO, that much is obvious. What's also obvious is that the press remains silent, when it has every reason to hold the BOT accountable, if for no other reason, than to repair its own failed reputation. That kind of universal control of the media only occurs when the stakes are really high.
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Human trafficking first. Heim and Charlie Brown Airlines first. Look up the officers.
The rest soon.
Has anything ever been made of the disappearance of the DA from State College? Gricar(sp)
What you talking about?
Many Penn State football players and coaches have been inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame, including Paul Posluszny, Joe Paterno, and LaVar Arrington.
Players
- Paul Posluszny
A linebacker who was inducted into the College Football Hall of Fame in 2024 - LaVar Arrington
A linebacker who was inducted in 2022 - Curt Warner
A player who was inducted from 1979–1982 - Kerry Collins
A player who was inducted from 1991–1994 - Steve Suhey
A player who was inducted in 1942, 1946, and 1947
- Joe Paterno: A coach who was inducted in 2007
Other notable Penn State football players
Pete Mauthe, Dexter Very, Shorty Miller, Glenn Killinger, Richie Lucas, Dave Robinson, Glenn Ressler, Mike Reid, Ted Kwalick, and Dennis Onkotz.
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Other than Season One/Episode 15 of The Blacklist, I don't know.
Seriously, I ask anyone to watch the first ten minutes of that episode and tell me that's not based on Gricar!
Some of Jockstrap"z theories.... Gricar was tossed down a mineshaft; bikers killed him over a dope deal.
"I'm simply saying that the current BOT has the legal and moral grounds to undue much of the reputational damage wrongly inflicted on PSU. I would argue self inflicted. At the very least, it should be actively repairing Joe's good name, which would go a long way towards mending much of the internal conflict within the PSU community that persists even now."
I couldn't agree more!
I couldn't agree more!
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