Why do we always have so many injuries year after year under Franklin?

[PSUWrestlingFanSince2011]

Obviously many injuries are part of the game but under Franklin we seem to have way more injuries than most teams under his tenure.

Is Franklin pushing guys to play when maybe their bodies aren’t ready to return from injuries. Is it an issue of strength and conditioning? Body preparation, resting the body after games. Pushing guys too hard in practice?

Any ideas? Because to me our injury numbers are well above average under Franklin.

 

[BOSCO2]

Obviously many injuries are part of the game but under Franklin we seem to have way more injuries than most teams under his tenure.

Is Franklin pushing guys to play when maybe their bodies aren’t ready to return from injuries. Is it an issue of strength and conditioning? Body preparation, resting the body after games. Pushing guys too hard in practice?

Any ideas? Because to me our injury numbers are well above average under Franklin.

Okay, let’s see the numbers.

 

[mfb5053]

Maybe Franklin hasn’t learned that miyagi hand rubbing technique yet.

 

[lazydave841]

Okay, let’s see the numbers.

Agreed. Just a take. Where is the data to back it up?

How many other teams does OP follow as closely and as invested?

Emotional take with zero information other than an assumption.

 

[Delcolion915]

It happens to everyone. The job is to have the depth necessary. Stop the crying. Rucci was brought in for a reason and is improving. Durant can, and will, play a higher snap count.

You adapt and overcome. Period. This week it's the 17th best team in an 18 team conference. At home. Zero excuses. Step the f@$k up and do your job. Get ready for three weeks from that point. Period.

 

[LMTLION]

OSU lost 2 OL starters. Injuries happen. Let’s not slip into tin foil hat insanity.

 

[Delcolion915]

OSU lost 2 OL starters. Injuries happen. Let’s not slip into tin foil hat insanity.

THANK YOU.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Jaypa could solve the problem!!

 

[PSUJim]

Obviously many injuries are part of the game but under Franklin we seem to have way more injuries than most teams under his tenure.

Is Franklin pushing guys to play when maybe their bodies aren’t ready to return from injuries. Is it an issue of strength and conditioning? Body preparation, resting the body after games. Pushing guys too hard in practice?

Any ideas? Because to me our injury numbers are well above average under Franklin.

Football is a violent sport. While we fixate on PSU, there are many other programs around the country that have similar, or if not worse, injury situations. We have a new class of recruits coming soon for 2025, and there are several of those players that have had injuries in high school. High school players get injured and most of those players were not playing against D1 competition across the board. Sometimes they are the best athletes on the field in high school, but doesn't mean they won't get injured. It sucks at all level for an injury, especially a serious one. But honestly, while we have had our share of injuries, I believe most top teams could say the same thing.

 

[Kasparaitis]

Because football is a physical sport. Duh.

 

[bvillebaron]

Agreed. Just a take. Where is the data to back it up?

How many other teams does OP follow as closely and as invested?

Emotional take with zero information other than an assumption.

When does he ever support any of his claims with numbers or facts?

 

[PSUWrestlingFanSince2011]

Penn State Is the Big Ten's Most Injured Team, Making Depth Even More Important

Injuries, to an extent, derailed what began as a promising 2021 season for Penn State. And through two games this season, James Franklin is already

www.statecollege.com

 

[WaffleShopper]

Penn State Is the Big Ten's Most Injured Team, Making Depth Even More Important

Injuries, to an extent, derailed what began as a promising 2021 season for Penn State. And through two games this season, James Franklin is already

www.statecollege.com

Thanks for providing some backup. It does seem like we're injured a little more than usual although there are some other teams that are worse off. Central Michigan has 13 players listed as out because of injury. UCLA has 30 players listed as out or questionable. I watched some of the Oklahoma game and there was a graphic that said they've lost their top 5 WRs for the year and I think they lost another one during the game. Also they had 4 or 5 of their OL starters out for the year. One of the announcers said that they had gone through 9 different starting lineups on the oline so far this year.

I have no idea what's causing the injuries at PSU. However, I do get the sense that it is affecting how we practice. Just a guess, but our inability to tackle and break tackles tells me that Franklin might be taking it a little easier during the week to minimize injuries.

 

[mfb5053]

Maybe our players should start soaking their injured body parts in bowls of warm piss like Chad ocho cinco.

 

[PSUWrestlingFanSince2011]

2015

Penn State Sunday situation: injuries pile up, recruiting notes, a look back at the key to the games, and more

Our weekly Penn State look back at the game that was on Saturday, the fallout from it, and more.

www.pennlive.com

 

[PSUWrestlingFanSince2011]

2016

Penn State injury run bad luck or something else? Diving into the OL, more: Franklin takeaways

The Lions' head coach held his weekly news conference Tuesday afternoon.

www.pennlive.com

 

[lazydave841]

Penn State Is the Big Ten's Most Injured Team, Making Depth Even More Important

Injuries, to an extent, derailed what began as a promising 2021 season for Penn State. And through two games this season, James Franklin is already

www.statecollege.com

Much appreciated for you providing context (after the fact), but you still lack other teams information for comparison. You simply shared local, fan base focused pieces that lack data about other teams.

Injuries are common. I don't see us losing guys at any abnormal clip.

 

[PSUWrestlingFanSince2011]

Much appreciated for you providing context (after the fact), but you still lack other teams information for comparison. You simply shared local, fan base focused pieces that lack data about other teams.

Injuries are common. I don't see us losing guys at any abnormal clip.

I mean anyone watching PSU football over the years know that we’ve had injury problems under Franklin but either people have memory problems or they are just in denial.

 

[LMTLION]

I mean anyone watching PSU football over the years know that we’ve had injury problems under Franklin but either people have memory problems or they are just in denial.

Yup still have not provided any real substantiation to show that over the last several years we have had an abnormal rate of injuries. This is still in the tinfoil hat realm of concerns. 2015 and 2016 were years coming out of sanctions. One would expect more injuries back then.

 

[jayhawks65]

I think the big 10 has a injury conspiracy against PSU. They have vodo dolls of our best players just in case the refs don't get us.

 

[bison13]

I do think PSU has had at least their share of injuries and possibly an above average rate though I do not believe that the statistical mean/SD of overall college football injuries makes our data significant enough to be concerned about how training/practice is run.

 

[PSUJim]

Much appreciated for you providing context (after the fact), but you still lack other teams information for comparison. You simply shared local, fan base focused pieces that lack data about other teams.

Injuries are common. I don't see us losing guys at any abnormal clip.

This article is also from 2016 from context. I believe the way we practice and train in 2024 is probably different than the way we did in 2016. Also, tackling, IMHO, has gone down hill across the board in college football. And I believe much of that is the fact that there is very limited live tackling drills/situations compared to the way it was years ago. I am sure it reduces injuries and concussions, but there is only so much you can do to avoid injuries as these guys are getting faster and bigger and stronger, and playing on turf fields more and more - even at the high school level.

 

[Texas Lion]

oh lord....giving it a day or so until our famous injury comes back and starts blaming PSU. Please think before you post....

 

[wilbury]

Obviously many injuries are part of the game but under Franklin we seem to have way more injuries than most teams under his tenure.

Is Franklin pushing guys to play when maybe their bodies aren’t ready to return from injuries. Is it an issue of strength and conditioning? Body preparation, resting the body after games. Pushing guys too hard in practice?

Any ideas? Because to me our injury numbers are well above average under Franklin.

Anyone else notice that it seems to rain more often during Penn State games since Franklin's been the coach? Seems way above average versus the rest of college football. It never rained when Joe was coaching.

 

[SR108]

Obviously many injuries are part of the game but under Franklin we seem to have way more injuries than most teams under his tenure.

Is Franklin pushing guys to play when maybe their bodies aren’t ready to return from injuries. Is it an issue of strength and conditioning? Body preparation, resting the body after games. Pushing guys too hard in practice?

Any ideas? Because to me our injury numbers are well above average under Franklin.

Next man up, experience for one of the younger DTs.

We have good depth on the OLine, use either Ricci or move some guys around using the true Freshman #50.

Franklin not responsible for injuries, it’s up to the medical staff if someone can play.

 

[bcspsu]

Next man up, experience for one of the younger DTs.

We have good depth on the OLine, use either Rocco or move some guys around using the true Freshman #50.

Franklin not responsible for injuries, it’s up to the medical staff if someone can play.

The frustrating thing is that the recent injuries probably will preclude PSU from making a long run in the playoffs; the team that's going to win it will do so mainly because they won the war of attrition, which PSU clearly is losing. However, if you watched the Bama-OU game last Saturday, Bama's defensive captain left the game with what appears to be a serious knee injury and OU, which already had lost five receivers during the season, lost a sixth when his leg got rolled up. So every team is sustaining these types of injuries.

 

[doctornick]

This is such a bizarre thread.

It doesn't seem to me that PSU has some abnormally high number of injuries. Every team has their fair share every year - it's the nature of the sport. some teams can compensate for them better (due to their degree of depth) and PSU is probably relatively thin compared to other top 10-15 type programs so maybe injuries feel more impactful because the replacements aren't as good. But I'd have to see cold hard numbers to believe that we have players getting injured to a statistically significantly degree.

 

[bcspsu]

This is such a bizarre thread.

It doesn't seem to me that PSU has some abnormally high number of injuries. Every team has their fair share every year - it's the nature of the sport. some teams can compensate for them better (due to their degree of depth) and PSU is probably relatively thin compared to other top 10-15 type programs so maybe injuries feel more impactful because the replacements aren't as good. But I'd have to see cold hold numbers to believe that we have players getting injured to a statistically significantly degree.

The shame of it is after Winston, Rappleyea and the running back were lost for the season through the Kent game, PSU, although it had had its share of bumps and bruises, really had not suffered another season ending injury, so things kind of had stabilized and returned to the mean.

Also, regarding the Donkoh and Ford injuries, you just may be dealing with players who are injury prone based on their history at PSU so far, whether it be because they just are carrying too much weight and their ligaments can't sustain the pressure, etc. I mean, the plays on which they were injured seemed to be rather harmless. Donkoh basically has been injured in some form or the other since the UCLA game, and Ford intentionally was on limited snaps through the first third of the season because of an injury that occurred in early August 2023.

 

[lazydave841]

I mean anyone watching PSU football over the years know that we’ve had injury problems under Franklin but either people have memory problems or they are just in denial.

Ah, so this is an originally veiled Franklin attack eh?

Jimmy Frank caused the injuries! *Sarcasm*

Still waiting for comparison to other teams... I won't hold my breath.

 

[amblernit]

Next man up, experience for one of the younger DTs.

We have good depth on the OLine, use either Ricci or move some guys around using the true Freshman #50.

Franklin not responsible for injuries, it’s up to the medical staff if someone can play.

the three freshman DTs are injured!!

 

[fastlax16]

Jaypa could solve the problem!!

Worst injury you can get from practicing with an Xbox is carpal tunnel.

 

[PSUWrestlingFanSince2011]

Ah, so this is an originally veiled Franklin attack eh?

Jimmy Frank caused the injuries! *Sarcasm*

Still waiting for comparison to other teams... I won't hold my breath.

Franklin lost the lawsuit for a reason.

 

[PSUWrestlingFanSince2011]

I guess this is just a coincidence then, right?

Ex-PSU doctor awarded $5.25M in termination suit

A jury Wednesday found in favor of a former Penn State athletics team doctor who claimed head football coach James Franklin interfered with medical treatment and that he was removed as team physician in retaliation for complaining about Franklin.

www.espn.com

 

[Phil's Rug]

OSU lost 2 OL starters. Injuries happen. Let’s not slip into tin foil hat insanity.

Too late, he's gone full tin foil body suit

 

[PSUWrestlingFanSince2011]

Too late, he's gone full tin foil body suit

The court of law is full tin foil body suit, got it