That we will, however what I saw at Iowa, what he looked like exiting the stadium before the half and during the second half says significant shoulder injury. I don't think we'll see him until Michigan or Rutgers at the earliest but maybe the bowl game is more likely.We'll know at 7:31 pm a week from Saturday.
Whether or not we see him Oct 30 very much up in the air. But, he doesn’t have a shoulder injury.That we will, however what I saw at Iowa, what he looked like exiting the stadium before the half and during the second half says significant shoulder injury. I don't think we'll see him until Michigan or Rutgers at the earliest but maybe the bowl game is more likely.
He has his shoulder in his lower back? Weird.That we will, however what I saw at Iowa, what he looked like exiting the stadium before the half and during the second half says significant shoulder injury. I don't think we'll see him until Michigan or Rutgers at the earliest but maybe the bowl game is more likely.
Not saying your wrong but wouldn't a big should injury have required at least a sling. Numerous times during the second half of the game Clifford can be seen in "Surrender Cobra" position which would be almost impossible if the injury was a shoulder.That we will, however what I saw at Iowa, what he looked like exiting the stadium before the half and during the second half says significant shoulder injury. I don't think we'll see him until Michigan or Rutgers at the earliest but maybe the bowl game is more likely.
They don't schedule a game for primetime (or not) based on one player's supposed availability.I say yes.
People a lot more connected than I am scheduled the game as prime time. I can't see anyone wanting to see PSU/OSU on primetime without Clifford.
They schedule them based on ratings. A 3 and out penn state offense for penn state will not keep people watching. Maybe I am cynical, but it is what I believe.They don't schedule a game for primetime (or not) based on one player's supposed availability.
They don't schedule a game for primetime (or not) based on one player's supposed availability.
Didn’t I read not too long ago that Franklin forces his guys to play injured. Are you telling me that some writer out there would post an article without proper research? I don’t believe it.I voted no. I'd rather be pleasantly surprised than disappointed. When player health is on the line Franklin/PSU tends to err on the cautious side.
I think he will sit out against Illinois, but they have every intention of playing him against OSU….right now, they’re just partaking in a bit of gamesmanship with OSU.He might even play against Illinois
I agree... I have had numerous separated shoulders (no dislocations though). And each time I had to keep my arm supported to keep from pulling down on the shoulder. I really think it was bruised ribs and his ability to play will depend upon how much he's healed and how much discomfort can he play with.Not saying your wrong but wouldn't a big should injury have required at least a sling. Numerous times during the second half of the game Clifford can be seen in "Surrender Cobra" position which would be almost impossible if the injury was a shoulder.
Having had a few different shoulder injuries, no it wouldn't require a sling unless it was pretty severe, and if it were severe, he would have been ruled out for the season already.Not saying your wrong but wouldn't a big should injury have required at least a sling. Numerous times during the second half of the game Clifford can be seen in "Surrender Cobra" position which would be almost impossible if the injury was a shoulder.
You do not know that. You hope. I hope it is isn't a shoulder injury as well but the evidence says it might be.Whether or not we see him Oct 30 very much up in the air. But, he doesn’t have a shoulder injury.
You do not know that. You hope. I hope it is isn't a shoulder injury as well but the evidence says it might be.
That would be hilarious if that pumpkin was shaped in the head of Jim delaneyWell positioned for the Big Ten pumpkin carving contest as long as O’Neill isn’t a judge.
With all due respect, you have no clue what I know about this. Since you’re free to express your opinion, go ahead and keep pushing the shoulder theory.You do not know that. You hope. I hope it is isn't a shoulder injury as well but the evidence says it might be.
Or because under CJF they never disclose any injuries, unless they are season ending. This isn't some sort of unique gamesmanship from the coaching staff. They aren't going to talk about it, as usual, and we'll all find out in 2 weeks.I hate to say it but one of the main reasons they are not disclosing the injury is to prevent a future opponent from potentially favoring the injury in its game plan.
That would be hilarious if that pumpkin was shaped in the head of Jim delaney
Any semi-serious shoulder injury would have required a sling. I suspect ribs or low back problem.I agree... I have had numerous separated shoulders (no dislocations though). And each time I had to keep my arm supported to keep from pulling down on the shoulder. I really think it was bruised ribs and his ability to play will depend upon how much he's healed and how much discomfort can he play with.
If Clifford's issue was just bruised ribs PSU would have put a flack jacket on him and sent him back out vs Iowa. He would have even practiced last week without contact. He would definitely be practicing this week.He might even play against Illinois
I saw Clifford grab the right side of his lower back going through the tunnel. How exactly does that equate to a “significant shoulder injury”?That we will, however what I saw at Iowa, what he looked like exiting the stadium before the half and during the second half says significant shoulder injury. I don't think we'll see him until Michigan or Rutgers at the earliest but maybe the bowl game is more likely.
Yeah throwing those 5 yards or less passes on 90% of his throws last Saturday.I have been sort of preoccupied lately, but I have no doubt Levis can step up and do the job.
Gamesmanship for OSU. Forces OSU to gameplan for a Penn State team with a Clifford led offense and a Penn State team without an offense.I voted no on this poll, but if I put money on it, I would say yes.. My only concern is how quit it's been about him. It's almost feels like they are going to announce he is out for the year. No sighting of him, no mention of him.
If Clifford's issue was just bruised ribs PSU would have put a flack jacket on him and sent him back out vs Iowa. He would have even practiced last week without contact. He would definitely be practicing this week.
Maybe he'll be back vs OSU but I'm skeptical. I can't imagine he'll play vs Illinois.
If Clifford's issue was just bruised ribs PSU would have put a flack jacket on him and sent him back out vs Iowa. He would have even practiced last week without contact. He would definitely be practicing this week.
Maybe he'll be back vs OSU but I'm skeptical. I can't imagine he'll play vs Illinois.
No way. Nope. Nah. Not a chance. Never.That we will, however what I saw at Iowa, what he looked like exiting the stadium before the half and during the second half says significant shoulder injury. I don't think we'll see him until Michigan or Rutgers at the earliest but maybe the bowl game is more likely.
I'm thinking they might stay away from a local after this last year.Does Iowa stadium have X-ray equipment? If they do, they can diagnose a break but would not be able to determine potential organ damage. See Ryan Keiser 2014 injury. You would need a CT scan to eliminate the possibility of internal damage. Rest is the only thing that will heal broken ribs. Doctors could give a local to kill pain so he could play. But you wouldn’t do that for practice.
He has his shoulder in his lower back? Weird.