present matchup nightmares for ND? Especially assuming they will key on Tyler Warren who's the best player in this game. Both present run opportunities, are decent blockers, and might introduce the screen threat and mid-range passing game in which Singleton excels.
Wouldn't a backfield with Singleton/Allen at the same time...
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They're both in the backfield at times and have been most of the season.
Yes, and they did that in the Boise game. I'm a dinosaur in that I like two backs, so I would be in favor of this.
They do this regularly and AK is good at keeping things spread out even with a 2 back, 2 TE look. Singleton, Warren and Dinkins are still threats outside and can all block so teams cannot just load the box due to there being limited outside threats on the field. He also moves everyone around in order to confuse coverages and reveal hidden intent as well.
I just hope that they do away with the option that gives Allar the option to run, which failed miserably against Boise on several occasions, including a game changing fumble. Allar is totally out of his element when he runs anywhere other than up the middle or to avoid a sack; he never should be asked to run towards the tackle on a designed run.
I agree. He is not an option QB where his running is the option. He is not bad at scrambles or even QB draw plays where he goes North & South. He's fairly fast, but has no wiggle at all.
You are absolutely correct. Notre Dame will also make that assumption. Which is why he should keep it once. Unfortunately, that was Pribula’s package so Allar has to step up once or twice to slow the pursuit toward the RB. He probably lacks the speed to be effective more than once.
Neither of the backs caught a pass vs BSU in what was an odd and clunky gameplan at times...hopefully we get them (Nick) in particular more in the open field catching passes vs ND
I've said many times in the past on this board that Singleton should run pass plays like Reggie Bush ran. I also believe that he would be perfect running the wheel route; I only recall him running this route against Wisconsin.
100%. I think AK tries to get too cute regardless of personnel. Nick should be touching the ball more than he does, especially in open field situations. We need the gameplan to be top notch moving forward.
Based on what I saw against Boise, Allar just isn't as adept at running this type of option play as Pribula was, and it showed in that game. There definitely can be predetermined runs for him, but it should involve him getting behind one of his massive o-lineman without worrying about carrying out a fake to a back.
Yes, it was almost like he lost sight of what this team has become offensively, especially without Pribula. PSU now is what Michigan was the past three seasons; it's a running team that has an o-line that is playing really well in the run game, two backs who look better than they have all season, and a great group of tight ends. The personnel on this offense right now isn't designed or capable of running long developing and unnessarily complex plays.
He obviously screwed up the mesh on that play. However, I think he can do it since he handles the ball 60 times a game. Maybe Nick was surprised he pulled the ball? Maybe Drew got too excited that he was going to pull it? Dunno. You can eliminate that with a predetermined r choice.
Can you get a blocker in front of him without giving away the keys for the play? Beyond my knowledge.
Another consideration is that if Allar is injured (knock on wood that this doesn't happen), which most likely would happen by running the ball, then this run is over. I just heard on Cowherd's show today that Hurtz still may not be ready for this weekend, and he sustained a concussion a couple of weeks ago by running the ball.
If the RPO design does not permit the QB keep feature to be utilized then you might as well not run that play at all. If the decoy is not an actual threat, then it allows the defense to attack the running back with impunity.
Multiple times per game, it appears that the correct read would be for DA to keep the ball as he is not accounted for as a runner. We've obviously had success without him being a more active runner but the opportunity for him has presented itself more often than he has been willing to take advantage of.
But I certainly share the concern for his becoming injured .....
The fact that he is QB 1 and QB 2 has very little in-game experience, is all the more reason he shouldn't be risking an injury by running an RPO. Hand it to the back.
after I watch that play 5-6 times I realized if nick took that hand off clean he most likely would've scored.
Yea, I would not abandon those plays based on that one mistake and I would guess that they are working that mesh/exchange read quite a bit this week. Allar is certainly not your typical RPO style QB, but if the pull/keep is there he has proven to be a load to bring down at a solid 240 plus.
This x1000. I’m less apt to criticize the staff for the “cutesy” plays that others complain about here, but I was ready to scream with the RPO plays with Allar; a) He’s not a designed run QB and b) we can’t afford to get him hurt.
It looked open for Drew. But even if he gets a first down and slides it is successful. And slows down the pursuit on Nick and Kaytron.
Drew increases the injury risk any time he runs. However, this is the semis and the calculus changes every play. Slide in the 1st quarter. Run someone over in the fourth with a tie score. Yeah it is over if Drew goes down but each play could end the season anyway.
Jordan Love was injured (elbow) in the game against the Bears. Sounded like initial report was not serious. Definitely concerned about Hurtz being out so long.
Yup. Which may have been why he was grabbing it harder than he should have…
Like the wheel route Saquon ran against Watt in the Big Championship game a few years back.
I don't think you can do that consistently for four quarters unless you want to engage in trench warfare. I don't think that would be wise as IMO ND will be vulnerable to Alar throwing the ball. Again, IMO a balanced PS offense will beat ND.
I assume you mean in an I Formation (or Split-Back Formation) as PSU has played Singleton and Allen at same time, but Singleton usually lines up at "Flanker" when they do.
Yes, you are correct CJF. In the backfield at the same time, split. Like the great RB tandems from yesteryear.
Never going to happen because this isn't yesteryear. They need to be on the field more together but with Singleton in the slot.
Agreed. And I’d like to see singleton running jet motion out of that set. You can give the defense so many different run and play action looks out of that.
Please. I've been waiting for that all year. Get your fastest athlete in space and moving when he gets the ball. He's also got great hands where he can run routes.
Run the Ball!
In 3 post-season games, PSU is averaging 234 yds rushing at 6.1 yds/carry
Vs ORE
297 yds 8.7/yds carry
vs SMU
189 yds 4.7/yds carry
vs Boise
216 yds 5.3/yds carry
In 3 post-season games, PSU is averaging 234 yds rushing at 6.1 yds/carry
Vs ORE
297 yds 8.7/yds carry
vs SMU
189 yds 4.7/yds carry
vs Boise
216 yds 5.3/yds carry
I agree, but we have to be smart.
If ND brings 8 into the box and crowds the line of scrimmage, we have to be able to adjust to take advantage of what the defense is 'giving' us.
Yes but having that personnel package would portend we are running the ball or, at least, throwing short. That would cause ND to bring up their safeties and DL to play the run. They'd probably put in run coverage LBers and S as opposed to having to have players cover the medium to long zones. Bottom line is that we'd have to run against 9 or 10 defenders because they wouldn't have to cover anyone deep.
I would like to see some miss direction when both backs are in the game at the same time.
I want to see more plays where the guy with the ball runs into the end zone.
Frankly I don't want him running at all. He's the one player on that field that can't be replaced with Beau gone. Risking injury to him is crazy at this point. They have 2 really good running backs. Use them.
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