ADVERTISEMENT

Wrestling action today

a_mshaffer

a_mshaffer

Well-Known Member
Dec 8, 2014
3,648
2,702
1
Iowa match. Great upper body D by Young by working through the throw and hitting one himself. Move of the week. Desanto did a good job. Too bad about the antics and after match BS. Lee still looks off – was good for the interview – just doesn’t seem to fire a lot.

OSU – Fix match was a letdown. Didn’t see Smith do anything wrong but imagine he started getting caught up with the environment… Nothing else to say as it has already been said…

PSU – well would have lost by Gavin bet. Want to continue to see improvement from RBY, especially on top. Nick is ok, just stubborn. The OSU transfer was ready but I agree and would like to see Nick set some other shots up. Thought Berge had his match won…he wrestled hard and should still gain confidence with his shooting… What were the odds that Nolf, Hall, Nickal, Shak don’t get a pin? Hall had a nice throw and was surprised he couldn’t stick the smaller guy. Cassar was solid and looks good – super solid win for him. Team looked a bit sluggish but Wisky had a good game plan of which PSU didn’t really break through it.
 
a_mshaffer said:
Iowa match. Great upper body D by Young by working through the throw and hitting one himself. Move of the week. Desanto did a good job. Too bad about the antics and after match BS. Lee still looks off – was good for the interview – just doesn’t seem to fire a lot.

OSU – Fix match was a letdown. Didn’t see Smith do anything wrong but imagine he started getting caught up with the environment… Nothing else to say as it has already been said…

PSU – well would have lost by Gavin bet. Want to continue to see improvement from RBY, especially on top. Nick is ok, just stubborn. The OSU transfer was ready but I agree and would like to see Nick set some other shots up. Thought Berge had his match won…he wrestled hard and should still gain confidence with his shooting… What were the odds that Nolf, Hall, Nickal, Shak don’t get a pin? Hall had a nice throw and was surprised he couldn’t stick the smaller guy. Cassar was solid and looks good – super solid win for him. Team looked a bit sluggish but Wisky had a good game plan of which PSU didn’t really break through it.
Click to expand...
DeSanto antics at end of match and then post match very problematic. He gave an extra shove to the head as he was getting up after the buzzer, then slapped hand away for handshake and was mouthy. Not sure the coaching he will receive is going to help him, but not sure how his antics are going to tolerated at tournament time.
 
  • Like
Reactions: BVSt.Paul and fronk71
Glen said:
DeSanto antics at end of match and then post match very problematic. He gave an extra shove to the head as he was getting up after the buzzer, then slapped hand away for handshake and was mouthy. Not sure the coaching he will receive is going to help him, but not sure how his antics are going to tolerated at tournament time.
Click to expand...
How hard is it to be magnanimous in victory?
 
  • Like
Reactions: BVSt.Paul
Glen said:
DeSanto antics at end of match and then post match very problematic. He gave an extra shove to the head as he was getting up after the buzzer, then slapped hand away for handshake and was mouthy. Not sure the coaching he will receive is going to help him, but not sure how his antics are going to tolerated at tournament time.
Click to expand...

Pretty sure Lizak called out DeSanto on twitter and “double dog dared” him to take down, which DeSanto did and reversed him.

No problem with DeSanto giving it back to him.
 
  • Like
Reactions: minnhawkeye, smealpsu2005 and PD4thespawn
Glen said:
DeSanto antics at end of match and then post match very problematic. He gave an extra shove to the head as he was getting up after the buzzer, then slapped hand away for handshake and was mouthy. Not sure the coaching he will receive is going to help him, but not sure how his antics are going to tolerated at tournament time.
Click to expand...
Let's face it: nothing will be done about it, so by definition it will be tolerated.

At least that's what the evidence says.
 
  • Like
Reactions: pawrest01, NittanyLion84 and tikk10
Justin Oliver lost today to WV's Monserrat. Oliver beat him by TF earlier this year.
 
Bob_Anderson said:
If you go by the number of repeat offenders at Iowa, there's absolutely no evidence the coaches have a problem with his antics.
Click to expand...
Exactly. Its at least tolerated, but it could be argued that they encourage it.

Its ok we hate U too.......
 
  • Like
Reactions: Bob_Anderson
El-Jefe said:
Let's face it: nothing will be done about it, so by definition it will be tolerated.

At least that's what the evidence says.
Click to expand...
Which is fine when you're winning. But mental stability is a key to wrestling three days in March and he's shown that it's not hard to get into his head. Tom and Terry's challenge was to get him to a place where he won't unravel again, more so than making him a better wrestler; it wasn't because his wrestling ability fell short that he didn't AA last year. A lot of people made the point at the time he transferred that Tom and Terry's amped edginess might be fuel to the fire and so far that's not looking wrong. Book isn't closed yet though.
 
  • Like
Reactions: pawrest01
Glen said:
DeSanto antics at end of match and then post match very problematic. He gave an extra shove to the head as he was getting up after the buzzer, then slapped hand away for handshake and was mouthy. Not sure the coaching he will receive is going to help him, but not sure how his antics are going to tolerated at tournament time.
Click to expand...
pretty sure Iowa lost a team point today as well...
 
pish69 said:
Pretty sure Lizak called out DeSanto on twitter and “double dog dared” him to take down, which DeSanto did and reversed him.

No problem with DeSanto giving it back to him.
Click to expand...
Give it back to him on Twitter.
 
tikk10 said:
Which is fine when you're winning. But mental stability is a key to wrestling three days in March and he's shown that it's not hard to get into his head. Tom and Terry's challenge was to get him to a place where he won't unravel again, more so than making him a better wrestler; it wasn't because his wrestling ability fell short that he didn't AA last year. A lot of people made the point at the time he transferred that Tom and Terry's amped edginess might be fuel to the fire and so far that's not looking wrong. Book isn't closed yet though.
Click to expand...
Conversely, the hr view was tnts fatherly mentorship would cure him.
 
Very bad look by Desanto, he must have taken that fake tweet seriously as he did choose down. Good match for Desanto, horrible sportsmanship. For Desanto though that is a big improvement, no attempt at breaking limbs. No showmanship from Steveson, probably cause he gassed. A better wrestler could have beaten him today.
 
a_mshaffer said:
Iowa match. Great upper body D by Young by working through the throw and hitting one himself. Move of the week. Desanto did a good job. Too bad about the antics and after match BS. Lee still looks off – was good for the interview – just doesn’t seem to fire a lot.

OSU – Fix match was a letdown. Didn’t see Smith do anything wrong but imagine he started getting caught up with the environment… Nothing else to say as it has already been said…

PSU – well would have lost by Gavin bet. Want to continue to see improvement from RBY, especially on top. Nick is ok, just stubborn. The OSU transfer was ready but I agree and would like to see Nick set some other shots up. Thought Berge had his match won…he wrestled hard and should still gain confidence with his shooting… What were the odds that Nolf, Hall, Nickal, Shak don’t get a pin? Hall had a nice throw and was surprised he couldn’t stick the smaller guy. Cassar was solid and looks good – super solid win for him. Team looked a bit sluggish but Wisky had a good game plan of which PSU didn’t really break through it.
Click to expand...

If you hypothetically assume a healthy Joseph and make a 3-point adjustment for PSU at 165, you wind up with a 27 - 10 win for the good guys against a mediocre B1G opponent just coming off a 1-point criteria loss at RU. A decent showing, but definitely still some work to do. Had wondered a little bit about the caliber of opponents Lee had faced to date at 141. Today it might've caught up to him, but a guess would be that in the long run he'll learn and improve himself from the loss. Berge's very young and will likely get better as he gains B1G experience and strength.

So, two conference wins in the books with Top-10 Nebraska coming to town next Sunday. We'll see where this all goes ...
 
a_mshaffer said:
Iowa match. Great upper body D by Young by working through the throw and hitting one himself. Move of the week. Desanto did a good job. Too bad about the antics and after match BS. Lee still looks off – was good for the interview – just doesn’t seem to fire a lot.

OSU – Fix match was a letdown. Didn’t see Smith do anything wrong but imagine he started getting caught up with the environment… Nothing else to say as it has already been said…

PSU – well would have lost by Gavin bet. Want to continue to see improvement from RBY, especially on top. Nick is ok, just stubborn. The OSU transfer was ready but I agree and would like to see Nick set some other shots up. Thought Berge had his match won…he wrestled hard and should still gain confidence with his shooting… What were the odds that Nolf, Hall, Nickal, Shak don’t get a pin? Hall had a nice throw and was surprised he couldn’t stick the smaller guy. Cassar was solid and looks good – super solid win for him. Team looked a bit sluggish but Wisky had a good game plan of which PSU didn’t really break through it.
Click to expand...
Nick MUST stop guys from countering his shots. Think it’s better for him to go double leg instead of single. Guys are just waiting to counter him and it works with the better guys. He was up by 2 in regulation and didn’t even need to shoot. Kid already countered him twice. Hope the Coaches make the adjustments with him. He needs to realize the score and time at all times.
 
KSLion said:
If you hypothetically assume a healthy Joseph and make a 3-point adjustment for PSU at 165, you wind up with a 27 - 10 win for the good guys against a mediocre B1G opponent just coming off a 1-point criteria loss at RU. A decent showing, but definitely still some work to do. Had wondered a little bit about the caliber of opponents Lee had faced to date at 141. Today it might've caught up to him, but a guess would be that in the long run he'll learn and improve himself from the loss. Berge's very young and will likely get better as he gains B1G experience and strength.
Click to expand...
Yes, and if Nick Lee has a bit more situational awareness, it becomes a 30-7 PSU win. But playing the "if" game accomplishes nothing.

Regarding Berge, agree that he lacks strength and horse power. Could it be that he's too sucked down at 149? Anyway, can't see the strength factor changing much in the next couple months.
 
pish69 said:
Pretty sure Lizak called out DeSanto on twitter and “double dog dared” him to take down, which DeSanto did and reversed him.

No problem with DeSanto giving it back to him.
Click to expand...
THIS got into DeSanto's head?

 
IaGodsCountry said:
Very bad look by Desanto, he must have taken that fake tweet seriously as he did choose down. Good match for Desanto, horrible sportsmanship. For Desanto though that is a big improvement, no attempt at breaking limbs. No showmanship from Steveson, probably cause he gassed. A better wrestler could have beaten him today.
Click to expand...

Steveson was interviewed by Shane Sparks after his bout. From what I have seen of him so far, he has the potential to evoke Downey-level disdain from the masses in the coming years. Just a complete tool. I also get the impression he will prove to be a handful to coach (e.g., he blamed today's performance on not listening to his coaches about how he should be warming up). Desanto to me is different. Clearly, he's "misfiring" a bit when it comes to being able to manage his behavior, but I'm not sure this is something he can control.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Hotshoe
RandyL said:
NOT shooting is NOT in Lee's DNA.
Click to expand...
Shooting is fine. He did this last year against the better competition. They kept countering his shoots. At the end of the year the coaches worked with him on adjustments.
 
I was pleasantly surprised with Stevenson's interview, he took responsibility for his less than expected results....so no showboating. I'm not pleased with Desanto's sportsmanship and try not to be blinded by the fact he's a Hawkeye, but he's still a work in progress.
 
  • Like
Reactions: PSUer1989
Brian LB-U said:
Steveson was interviewed by Shane Sparks after his bout. From what I have seen of him so far, he has the potential to evoke Downey-level disdain from the masses in the coming years. Just a complete tool. I also get the impression he will prove to be a handful to coach (e.g., he blamed today's performance on not listening to his coaches about how he should be warming up). Desanto to me is different. Clearly, he's "misfiring" a bit when it comes to being able to manage his behavior, but I'm not sure this is something he can control.
Click to expand...
Seriously??? Desanto is the mother of all tools and a thug! You can’t even compare him and Stevenson. Your example to dis Stevenson is him saying he should have listened to coaches? C’mon, you have to be kidding me!
 
smealpsu2005 said:
Seriously??? Desanto is the mother of all tools and a thug! You can’t even compare him and Stevenson. Your example to dis Stevenson is him saying he should have listened to coaches? C’mon, you have to be kidding me!
Click to expand...

Actually, I'm taking everything I've seen from Steveson this year into account (White, Colucci, Corbin). He acted like a complete jackass against both White and Colucci.
 
Brian LB-U said:
Steveson was interviewed by Shane Sparks after his bout. From what I have seen of him so far, he has the potential to evoke Downey-level disdain from the masses in the coming years. Just a complete tool. I also get the impression he will prove to be a handful to coach (e.g., he blamed today's performance on not listening to his coaches about how he should be warming up). Desanto to me is different.
Click to expand...

smealpsu2005 said:
Seriously??? Desanto is the mother of all tools and a thug! You can’t even compare him and Stevenson. Your example to dis Stevenson is him saying he should have listened to coaches? C’mon, you have to be kidding me!
Click to expand...

I'm in the camp of those that don't like Steveson's antics on the mat. But I came away with a little more patience and, to my surprise, respect for the kid after watching his Flo interview after the CKLV tourney linked below ($$$ paywall). He talked about some of the backlash he's been getting and may have even made a reference to Mark Hall (I think).

When asked what he means by wanting to “break people,” Steveson said:

"In a match, just make him give up. Not really just trying to ‘fool’ him. I know a lot of people thinking I’m just ‘fooling’ people, and a lot of people think I’m just being a hard head on the mat. But that’s just my style. It’s just what I do for 7 minutes, and if this gets posted I want people to know, I’m good off the mat. I know a lot of people are hating out there. ‘Oh Gable’s this, Gable’s that. He’s a punk.’ I see it but it don’t really bother me. I’m just wrestling my hardest on the mat and doing my own thing.”

I assume he's using the word "fool" to mean "make a fool of." He also said:
“Me cutting someone hard is just wrestling. It’s like, I’m not hurting someone. I’m not shaming them."

The possible Mark Hall reference comes 55 seconds into the interview. When asked how's he learned to not let stuff get to him, Steveson said: “Watching Mark wrestle, we’ve been in the same practice room for a long time. He’s so calm, structured in how he wrestles. I try to put that into my style.”

I know he and Mark are good friends and I'm unaware of another Mark in the Minnesota room. So, I'm assuming that's a ref to Mark Hall.

https://www.flowrestling.org/video/6276910-gable-steveson-knows-people-want-to-see-him-fail
 
  • Like
Reactions: Brian LB-U and smealpsu2005
Glad to see a Pennsylvania kid like Kaleb Lee showing Iowa people how to lay it on the line & wrestle.

And win.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

AgSurfer

CKLV - Dec 6 & 7, 2024

Replies
111
Views
24K
The Wrestling Room
AgSurfer
AgSurfer
86PSUPaul

Thanksgiving email from Casey

Replies
0
Views
1K
The Wrestling Room
86PSUPaul
86PSUPaul
P

2024-25 PSU Wrestling Media Guide

Replies
21
Views
3K
The Wrestling Room
JimNazium
J
FatWoodchuck

BEG Wrestling

Replies
16
Views
4K
The Wrestling Room
CholleyVandine
CholleyVandine
C

Film Study - Tom Allen v. Chip Kelly

Replies
1
Views
554
Penn State Football
lazydave841
lazydave841
ADVERTISEMENT

Latest posts

ADVERTISEMENT
Top Bottom
Back