Wrestling is Heating Up

[RoarLions1]

My highlighted matches are bolded.

January 10th-Franklin & Marshall @ Bucknell
January 11th-Duke @ NC State
January 12th-Missouri @ Buffalo
January 13th/14th-Virginia Duals (Bucknell, Campbell, Chattanooga, Lock Haven, Virginia, Virginia Tech) @ Hampton, Virginia
January 13th-Rutgers @ Penn State
January 13th-Air Force @ Utah Valley
January 13th-Clarion @ Rider
January 13th-Drexel @ Cornell
January 13th-Eastern Michigan @ Adrian College
January 13th-Hofstra @ Sacred Heart
January 13th-Indiana @ Purdue
January 13th-Lehigh @ Navy
January 13th-Maryland @ Michigan
January 13th-Michigan State @ Northwestern
January 13th-Oregon State @ Northern Colorado
January 13th-South Dakota State @ Wyoming
January 13th-Wisconsin @ Nebraska
January 14th-Shorty Hitchcock Invitational (Penn) @ Millersville, Pennsylvania
January 14th-Pitt Duals (Binghamton, Bloomsburg, Brown, Columbia, Edinboro, Harvard, NC State, Pittsburgh, VMI) @ Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Columbia vs NC State
Edinboro vs NC State
NC State vs Brown
January 14th-Iowa State @ North Carolina
January 14th-Lehigh @ American
January 14th-Missouri @ Cornell
January 14th-Princeton vs Stanford @ New York, New York
January 15th-American @ Navy
January 15th-Army West Point, Stanford @ Penn
January 15th-Boise State @ Northern Colorado
January 15th-Hofstra, West Liberty @ Clarion
January 15th-Illinois @ Ohio State
January 15th-Iowa @ Oklahoma State
January 15th-Maryland @ Michigan State
January 15th-Michigan @ Nebraska
January 15th-Missouri @ Eastern Michigan
January 15th-Northern Iowa @ Central Michigan
January 15th-Oregon State @ Wyoming
January 15th-South Dakota State @ Air Force
January 15th-Wisconsin @ Minnesota

 

[Ian]

And rightfully so Roar!

Okie St and PSU are beginning to separate.

http://www.trackwrestling.com/tw/Po...&twSessionId=wibimfzqaukkvks&postId=223572076

 

[nitlion6]

Iowa Okie State
For Iowa to win either Stoll will need a pin, or Brooks needs to beat Boyd.
I think it ends something like 17-16 Okie State.
Iowa gets 125 (bonus), 133, 149, 157 and HWT
Okie St gets 141, 165 (bonus?), 174, 184, 197 (bonus).

 

[Ja1339]

My highlighted matches are bolded.

January 10th-Franklin & Marshall @ Bucknell
January 11th-Duke @ NC State
January 12th-Missouri @ Buffalo
January 13th/14th-Virginia Duals (Bucknell, Campbell, Chattanooga, Lock Haven, Virginia, Virginia Tech) @ Hampton, Virginia
January 13th-Rutgers @ Penn State
January 13th-Air Force @ Utah Valley
January 13th-Clarion @ Rider
January 13th-Drexel @ Cornell
January 13th-Eastern Michigan @ Adrian College
January 13th-Hofstra @ Sacred Heart
January 13th-Indiana @ Purdue
January 13th-Lehigh @ Navy
January 13th-Maryland @ Michigan
January 13th-Michigan State @ Northwestern
January 13th-Oregon State @ Northern Colorado
January 13th-South Dakota State @ Wyoming
January 13th-Wisconsin @ Nebraska
January 14th-Shorty Hitchcock Invitational (Penn) @ Millersville, Pennsylvania
January 14th-Pitt Duals (Binghamton, Bloomsburg, Brown, Columbia, Edinboro, Harvard, NC State, Pittsburgh, VMI) @ Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
Columbia vs NC State
Edinboro vs NC State
NC State vs Brown
January 14th-Iowa State @ North Carolina
January 14th-Lehigh @ American
January 14th-Missouri @ Cornell
January 14th-Princeton vs Stanford @ New York, New York
January 15th-American @ Navy
January 15th-Army West Point, Stanford @ Penn
January 15th-Boise State @ Northern Colorado
January 15th-Hofstra, West Liberty @ Clarion
January 15th-Illinois @ Ohio State
January 15th-Iowa @ Oklahoma State
January 15th-Maryland @ Michigan State
January 15th-Michigan @ Nebraska
January 15th-Missouri @ Eastern Michigan
January 15th-Northern Iowa @ Central Michigan
January 15th-Oregon State @ Wyoming
January 15th-South Dakota State @ Air Force
January 15th-Wisconsin @ Minnesota

Thanks Roar. I believe I saw that ASU is also going to be at Virginia Duals this weekend. If that is correct, perhaps we'd see a Walz v Hall and Epperly v Valencia showdowns?

 

[El-Jefe]

Thanks Roar. I believe I saw that ASU is also going to be at Virginia Duals this weekend. If that is correct, perhaps we'd see a Walz v Hall and Epperly v Valencia showdowns?

Good possibility of that happening. It's hard to tell if that would be in the semis or finals of the "gold" tournament.

VA Duals is being run as a group of 4 pools, each with a round robin:
- VT, Lock Haven, Kent State
- Oklahoma, ODU, UTC
- Sparky, Bucknell, Campbell
- Virginia, ND State, Citadel

Then the 4 pool winners face off in a 4-team tourney for "gold." Single-elemination tourney with a 3rd/4th match. Pool runners-up will compete for "silver" and 3rd placers for "bronze."

It's a neat idea -- all teams are guaranteed 5 matches.

 

[Maddog]

Any word on whether of the PSU wrestlers are going to Shorty Hitchcock this weekend? If Cassar and Cortez are healthy, might be a good place to get each of them several bouts. For Cortez, would help him get ready for Clark next week and to maybe get enough bouts for an RPI at the end of the regular season.

 

[Tom McAndrew]

Any word on whether of the PSU wrestlers are going to Shorty Miller this weekend?

'Shorty' Hitchcock? At Millersville?

So far, the following PSUers are registered:

- Devin Schnupp
- Scott Stossel
- Mason Lindenmuth
- Bo Pipher
- Brian Friery
- Devon Van Cura
- Alex Nicholas
- Ethan Wissler

 

[Maddog]

'Shorty' Hitchcock?

Oops on the typo. Have edited my orignal post. Thanks for the info Tom.

 

[matter7172]

Iowa Okie State
For Iowa to win either Stoll will need a pin, or Brooks needs to beat Boyd.
I think it ends something like 17-16 Okie State.
Iowa gets 125 (bonus), 133, 149, 157 and HWT
Okie St gets 141, 165 (bonus?), 174, 184, 197 (bonus).

I just hope it's not as bad as the match a few years ago that ended 15-15 with, I believe, 90 total match points for all ten matches combined (pretty sure it was 47-43). I wanted to stab my eyes out by the end of that snoozefest.

 

[aalion]

Apologies if this is a stupid question, but the TrackWrestling link describes the formula for their ranking, which I know does not include bonus points. It says:

"Trackwrestling’s team rankings are based off the number of advancement and placement points each squad would accumulate if its wrestlers finished in those ranking slots at the NCAA Championships. Top-ranked wrestlers earn 20 points, followed by 16 for second, 13.5 for third, 12.5 for fourth, 10 for fifth, 9 for sixth, 6.5 for seventh, 5.5 for eighth, 2 for spots 9-12, 1.5 for spots 13-16 and 1 for 17-25.".

Is this Track's formula for estimating NCAA placement and advancement points, or will all wrestlers accumulate those placement and advancement points regardless of how they get there? Does someone finishing 3rd get the same amount of placement/advancement points if he loses in Semis and then finishes strong Saturday, as opposed to someone who loses round 1 and wrestles all the way back for 3rd? Do they end up the same? What about pigtails... are those points evened out too? Or is Track just estimating the point total for those advancement/placers in order to put together their model? I imagine the difference is relatively negligible (if it exists at all) compared to bonus points, but am curious.

Thanks in advance.

 

[mrh1645]

It's a neat idea -- all teams are guaranteed 5 matches.

Seems like 4 matches (2 in pool and 2 in tourney). Am I missing something?

 

[El-Jefe]

Seems like 4 matches (2 in pool and 2 in tourney). Am I missing something?

Math was not my friend yesterday.

 

[RoarLions1]

Apologies if this is a stupid question, but the TrackWrestling link describes the formula for their ranking, which I know does not include bonus points. It says:

"Trackwrestling’s team rankings are based off the number of advancement and placement points each squad would accumulate if its wrestlers finished in those ranking slots at the NCAA Championships. Top-ranked wrestlers earn 20 points, followed by 16 for second, 13.5 for third, 12.5 for fourth, 10 for fifth, 9 for sixth, 6.5 for seventh, 5.5 for eighth, 2 for spots 9-12, 1.5 for spots 13-16 and 1 for 17-25.".

Is this Track's formula for estimating NCAA placement and advancement points, or will all wrestlers accumulate those placement and advancement points regardless of how they get there? Does someone finishing 3rd get the same amount of placement/advancement points if he loses in Semis and then finishes strong Saturday, as opposed to someone who loses round 1 and wrestles all the way back for 3rd? Do they end up the same? What about pigtails... are those points evened out too? Or is Track just estimating the point total for those advancement/placers in order to put together their model? I imagine the difference is relatively negligible (if it exists at all) compared to bonus points, but am curious.

Thanks in advance.

Track's points are the most likely Advancement/Placement total that a wrestler will get for the Placement noted. There is variation if a wrestler has a pigtail in the Championship or Wrestleback Brackets, but there's odds against that as none of the seeded wrestlers are placed into the Championship's pigtail bout.

A wrestler losing in the 1st Round and earning 3rd by winning out through wrestlebacks will earn .5 fewer Advancement Points than a guy that drops down in Round 2 or after...unless they get the wrestleback pigtail.

 

[aalion]

Track's points are the most likely Advancement/Placement total that a wrestler will get for the Placement noted. There is variation if a wrestler has a pigtail in the Championship or Wrestleback Brackets, but there's odds against that as none of the seeded wrestlers are placed into the Championship's pigtail bout.

A wrestler losing in the 1st Round and earning 3rd by winning out through wrestlebacks will earn .5 fewer Advancement Points than a guy that drops down in Round 2 or after...unless they get the wrestleback pigtail.

Thanks Roar!

 

[nitlion6]

I just hope it's not as bad as the match a few years ago that ended 15-15 with, I believe, 90 total match points for all ten matches combined (pretty sure it was 47-43). I wanted to stab my eyes out by the end of that snoozefest.

The good news is Heil is only wrestling once.

 

[Ja1339]

Thanks Roar. I believe I saw that ASU is also going to be at Virginia Duals this weekend. If that is correct, perhaps we'd see a Walz v Hall and Epperly v Valencia showdowns?

Just saw that Tanner Hall had a close 1-0 decision over Jere Heino of Campbell. Walz majored Haines, 24-15. Decent showing by Thomas. ASU and VT both advanced to semis. ASU and could face each other in finals. Semis also have OU & NDS.