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Anyone here have it? I just started free trial
Been using it September thru November for 2 years with no problems getting PennState games (except for the game on Peacock this year which cost $5.99.)
 
I started around Labor Day…some pluses over Directv, but also some things that annoy me. Overall, I’d say the pluses slightly outweigh the minuses, though the price is definitely much better.
 
I have it. Glad I changed to YouTube TV on cost alone (from cable) though there are other services that may be better. One thing I like in particular is to be able to take live TV anywhere I go. All I need is a phone or Wifi.

I chose YouTube for the channel lineup. The difference-maker was the Smithsonian Channel, which is why I kept cable for so long. I was a holdout and the cable company (AT&T) literally wanted their customers to stream, albeit with DirectTV. The hardware was no longer supported.

That said, I hate the Youtube interface. In the year 2023 you'd think they can not only do better, but produce a product that is without blatant bugs. The biggest bug is that you can put things into your (DVR) library. The system will show it as added. Then it won't be there when you look for it later. In other words, you miss your program.

I have not had that happen with sports or business shows but it happens a lot with the shows of interest to my wife. I've been unable to find the common denominator for things that don't get recorded. I suspect that it involves contractual agreements with program providers but that aspect isn't apparent to the user.

It's just outrageous that their programmers could be so incompetent. I was not a trained software engineer but I built some very sophisticated software and it never had egregious bugs like this does.

The other disappointment, and I'm guessing that others are like this, is that they've tried to copy the Netflix interface for live TV. It becomes a huge block for older people who are used to cable/satellite. Just scrolling through the channels is really awkward.

Maybe AI will write programs and test them.
 
I have it. Glad I changed to YouTube TV on cost alone (from cable) though there are other services that may be better. One thing I like in particular is to be able to take live TV anywhere I go. All I need is a phone or Wifi.

I chose YouTube for the channel lineup. The difference-maker was the Smithsonian Channel, which is why I kept cable for so long. I was a holdout and the cable company (AT&T) literally wanted their customers to stream, albeit with DirectTV. The hardware was no longer supported.

That said, I hate the Youtube interface. In the year 2023 you'd think they can not only do better, but produce a product that is without blatant bugs. The biggest bug is that you can put things into your (DVR) library. The system will show it as added. Then it won't be there when you look for it later. In other words, you miss your program.

I have not had that happen with sports or business shows but it happens a lot with the shows of interest to my wife. I've been unable to find the common denominator for things that don't get recorded. I suspect that it involves contractual agreements with program providers but that aspect isn't apparent to the user.

It's just outrageous that their programmers could be so incompetent. I was not a trained software engineer but I built some very sophisticated software and it never had egregious bugs like this does.

The other disappointment, and I'm guessing that others are like this, is that they've tried to copy the Netflix interface for live TV. It becomes a huge block for older people who are used to cable/satellite. Just scrolling through the channels is really awkward.

Maybe AI will write programs and test them.
I agree with you about scrolling through channels. Don't like it.

I will say this about directv stream..every year I call their loyalty division, tell them I don't want to cancel but need better price...they adjust me to $83...just $10 more than youtube tv
 
I agree with you about scrolling through channels. Don't like it.

I will say this about directv stream..every year I call their loyalty division, tell them I don't want to cancel but need better price...they adjust me to $83...just $10 more than youtube tv

What makes DirectTV better? Why would you choose it over YouTube TV?

That was one of the big minuses in dealing with AT&T/DirectTV -- the billing department. Our experiences were so bad that we would not even put them on autopay. Having to constantly complain and negotiate on price was another. I would dump them on that issue alone. We still have AT&T for internet, for lack of choice (beyond a satellite dish), but at least we are not dealing with the programming side.
 
What’s your definition of “legal”?. You pay for it, so it’s yours….. is it fully legit, probably not. That’s why you need a vpn.
What it does is skirt rules around local broadcasting. The NFL or BIG doesn’t deem you worthy enough to watch the Penn State or Eagles games if you live in Florida without paying exorbitant fees with something like Sunday ticket? Well, you just watch PA locals through Iptv.
 
I like YouTube. Switched from Directv beginning of the year. Scrolling through channels can be a pain but it seems to know what I usually watch and defaults to where I am going or has the most recent things or things I record on the top picks for you without having to search.

I’ve had the problem where a few thing I recorded didn’t show up but when I searched for the program it usually is there and viewable. Not sure why it isn’t in the “library” with other things that are recorded.
 
I chose Hulu over YouTube due to their censorship policies. Also Hulu offers Disney + but I’ve actually never watched it. Other good ones are Fubo TV and Sling.
 
I’ve had the problem where a few thing I recorded didn’t show up but when I searched for the program it usually is there and viewable. Not sure why it isn’t in the “library” with other things that are recorded.

Wish I knew what I am doing wrong because I thought of that and did not find it. Wife likes all kinds of old series, such as Midsommer Murders, where the later seasons do not record but the older ones are available. That is why I think it is a contractual issue.
 
I chose Hulu over YouTube due to their censorship policies. Also Hulu offers Disney + but I’ve actually never watched it. Other good ones are Fubo TV and Sling.

Might have done the same if it were not for the loss of the Smithsonian Channel.

I don't like being forced to subsidize Big Tech, for its political bias, but there is no practical way around it. Can't even own stock in a 401K without owning them.
 
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What makes DirectTV better? Why would you choose it over YouTube TV?

That was one of the big minuses in dealing with AT&T/DirectTV -- the billing department. Our experiences were so bad that we would not even put them on autopay. Having to constantly complain and negotiate on price was another. I would dump them on that issue alone. We still have AT&T for internet, for lack of choice (beyond a satellite dish), but at least we are not dealing with the programming side.
Everything AT&T touches turns to feces, at least from the perspective of the customer experience … Though DirecTV has sucked for ages anyhoo …

When we ditched Direct about 6yrs ago , I was amazed of the improvement of our hi def picture quality vs satellite, as if we brought in a much more expensive tv … likely because the satellite signal is soooo compressed
 
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