Taylor was a higher rated recruit coming out of high school...I think he could be real good.
2017 LB depth chart
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Agree with you on that--I am not so sold on APKE just my opinion...hope I am wrong.
I still have my eligibility. And I weigh about 200. So let's do this walk on style. I did graduate in the 80s though.
By the same logic, I would be a potential three technique D lineman...
Agree completely on Wade....not expecting a lot after watching the All star game last weekend. Still very excited about him though. I think he can come in and play nickel. If he has good instincts he could also play some FS IMHO. Bob Sanders wasn't that tall at Iowa and had a pretty good NFL career too.
I hope we can somehow snag another LB in this class who could play either MLB or WLB. I don't understand our LB recruiting. We need more guys who can play inside. We got none last year and probably only one for 2017. Missing out on some 4 or 5 star ILB doesn't mean you quit recruiting the position.
Been a huge frustration of mine got excited a few months ago when that Texas kid name escapes me that committed to A&M had us on his list thought he wanted to join a winner.
There is a redshirt DB that nobody mentions much that is a baller and will have a big impact on 2017. I think he will afford them the ability to move someone like Taylor to safety. Zech McPhearson.
What happened to Garrett Taylor? Everyone was so excited when he committed, yet I never see him mentioned
He didn't seem to have too much trouble racking up awards at the UA AA Bowl practices against tall receivers this past week......
Here is how I see it in 2017:
OLB: Bowen, Brown
MLB: Cabinda, Smith, Cooper
OLB: Farmer, Miller/Faisen-Walden
With the potential of Rivers playing as a true freshman as well if there are injuries. Miller may move back to Safety and we'll have a better idea of where will play next year as Spring practices conclude.
Cooper could potentially play some outside, but I have not seen the quickness or lateral movement from him to believe he can be effective outside. Some here suggest he could redshirt in 2017 and then compete to start at MLB in 2018 and 2019, but I don't see that happening.
Taylor played special teams this year and was arround the ball regularly. But with all the more experienced CB's ahead of him on the depth chart he never made an impact at CB in 2017, his redshirt freshman season. That doesn't mean he won't climb the depth chart in 2018 or 2019. He has good size and could move to Safety, or he may be counted on at CB in 2018 if a CB or 2 ahead of him on the CB depth chart move to Safety..... It will be interesting to see how he progresses this Spring.
I look for Scott and Monroe to rise up to the top of the Safety depth chart this Spring..... and it will be interesting to see where Johnson practices this Spring.
Monroe played a good bit on special teams and he looks like he has nice size for a Safety. He looks taller and longer than the 5'11" he is listed at.
So because he is 5'9 and probably done growing height wise he will never play a down for PSU defense according to this. He will play next year, especially if Allen left.
Safety will be pretty interesting this spring. I see two guys that could move over with the addition of Wade and Johnson at CB. Wade could even get a look there as apparently he is a very physical player and is an EE. I think maybe Amani O and Garrett Taylor are two guys that could move over. At least one of them maybe? It would be nice if the room was there for TCF in this current class as he is a pretty big kid at DB that could fill a big CB slot or safety.
Here is who is left I believe.
Allen (was rumored to be leaning early on, but who knows now?)
Apke
Scott
Monroe
Petrishen
A. Johnson
Frosh or guys who could move?
Wade
Sunderland
Amani O
G Taylor
CB next year you then have
Reid, Campbell, Haley, Z McPherson, Amani O*, Taylor*, Wade*, Johnson
He has room to add the mass and will have a full year of S&C...not sure he gets up there that quickly, but I think he adds some mass this year.
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Wade reminds me of a much more physical (and at this point in his career) more gifted version of Dre Bly, who was an absolute ball hawk at about 5'9" at UNC. Went on to have a pretty nice pro career too. Again, the big difference I see between the two is that Wade is much more physical and plays like he's 6'3".
Wade has been going up against wide receivers that are bigger than he is for years on the camp and 7 on 7 circuits, and has gone up against the best WRs in the country. He's won far, far more battles than he's lost. I'm not sure why that would change going up against the same guys again in college.
Yes.
MLB - Cabinda, Smith, Cooper(OLB too?), Rivers
OLB - Bowen, Brown, Walton
OLB - Farmer (or Brown), Miller, Franklin
I think that Nick Scott and Amani Oruwariye could be the starters if Marcus leaves. Better for him to stay and improve in pass coverage. USC receivers ate him up -- a bad game for someone leaving for the NFL. Scott and Amani are really both SS. Could always play Christian Campbell at FS since Z. McPhearson looks to back up at CB. And what ever happened to heralded recruit Garrett Taylor?
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He changed his name to Garrett Taylor......and he just finished his RS FR season as a back-up CB for Penn State.
AWESOME! Would love that....it will be interesting to see how he handles more experienced QB's and receivers.
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I wouldn't put a lot of stock into one All-Star game. Kid dominated camps against elite competition and has the NATIONAL accolades to justify his lofty (Top Ten OVERALL on Rivals) ranking. If he can contribute at the level Reid did as a FR (and that was pretty significant IMO), we'll be fine. I think we'll see a lot of him though. He plays with a chip on his shoulder because of folks like you...
Your correct in not putting a lot of stock in one game I saw on TV--I haven't seen him at all so I tuned in for just him. My expectations were a little higher after reading all the great things mentioned on this board. He defended a lot of the passes his way with ease--I was expecting and was wrong for that-a pick 6
lol....further I mentioned earlier in this post--competing against your peers and guys that have been playing for 2 years at the college level is another thing-that is to be determined. BTW-I DONT HAVE AN ISSUE with his HEIGHT at all! I am Excited about him--but I don't have high expectations of him to be our savior this season in where we have gaps that's all...All good! WE ARE!You do realize CRIMSON is the "21 Guns" of the South?
I just hope he hasn't used that "MoJo" to completely wreck Wade's career.
As far as wade playing safety, see also: earl thomas. Don't let height get into your head too much. If you can play, you can play.
Monroe had a lot of ST's tackles. At least
Muggsy Bogues, 5'3" point guard. 14 NBA seasons. Too short to make it though.
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