Penn State lands a commitment from coveted OT Chimdy Onoh
Penn State lands a commitment from coveted OT Chimdy Onoh
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Welcome aboard.Awesome! I think we got another quality athlete to develop at OT.
Most freshman OL recruits are projects.Project.
May have been as simple as a bunch of power 5 offers coming in all of the sudden.Does anyone have any insight on how he got bumped up?
Early December he was an ODU commit. No P5 offers. Now he's a top 20 tackle prospect according to some. What happened?
Yeah, those 2 top 4 guys are projects. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄Most freshman OL recruits are projects.
I think his point is that most OL are not ready to contribute right away, even top 100 overall players. Some are, but most aren't there yet. Now top WR recruits or RB recruits often are ready to contribute right away. Just how I read it.Yeah, those 2 top 4 guys are projects. 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
There aren't many Orlando Paces out there, that's for sure. I thin every one of our O=line recruits in this cycle can wind up starting, a couple as early as sophomore year.I think his point is that most OL are not ready to contribute right away, even top 100 overall players. Some are, but most aren't there yet. Now top WR recruits or RB recruits often are ready to contribute right away. Just how I read it.
No they are not. Olu is not a project and neither was Tengwall.Most freshman OL recruits are projects.
OL talent, yes. Online talent? I'll have to disagree there, have you seen the garbage content on this board recently?Online talent seems as strong as it has been in a while.
Seem like we are killing the Oline and Defensive backs in last few classes.
Yep, and obviously not Shelton or a few others.No they are not. Olu is not a project and neither was Tengwall.
That was my point. Some do but some need time in the weight room. WRs the and RBs have a better chance to contribute early.I think his point is that most OL are not ready to contribute right away, even top 100 overall players. Some are, but most aren't there yet. Now top WR recruits or RB recruits often are ready to contribute right away. Just how I read it.
He already has started. at 18 years of age... If he has the frame... And muscle type ... 30 lbs in 16 months is a breeze. My brother between his matriculation and his sophomore year added 40 lbs...Is he still 270 or had he put on some since that number? That’s light, he needs to add 30 or more. Probably be two years before he bills up enough.
Agreed. I just don't agree on this one with the others and hopefully am proven wrong, but this program has had bomb after bomb with these Baltimore area o linemen and this is a project on top of all that.Yep, and obviously not Shelton or a few others.
Maybe he meant most freshmen 2 STAR OL recruits are projects.
Athlete. We have had some success with these types in the past. Traut knows what he wants.Project.
His Senior Film came out and showed a world of improvement from his Junior Film to evaluators. They also valued his Shot Put and Discuss Maryland State Championship, and he's also ranked #12 nationally in Shot Put. So verified numbers that show explosion and good footwork. It's a similar reason to why J'ven is a 5* at TOS.Does anyone have any insight on how he got bumped up?
Early December he was an ODU commit. No P5 offers. Now he's a top 20 tackle prospect according to some. What happened?
He's coach came on the TOS podcast and stated he's up to 282.Is he still 270 or had he put on some since that number? That’s light, he needs to add 30 or more. Probably be two years before he bills up enough.
That's not really a fair comparison because Williams and Birchmeier although ahead of most Olinemen in development and talent, they are also already enrolled which will allow them to put on muscle under the direction of the PSU S&C leadership for 6 months ahead of Fall practice as well as learn the offense and refine technique during Spring practice.Guys like Williams and Birchmeier, are kids that will be ready to play this fall if needed. Onoh is more of a kid that by year three he’s ready to start.
Figured those were old numbers and he already gained some. Thanks.He's coach came on the TOS podcast and stated he's up to 282.
I understand what you’re saying, but as someone who’s seen him play, it wouldn’t matter if he was coming in early or not. The league he plays in is not very good. He is a very good athlete as shown by his track numbers but he has not seen the size of defensive ends that he needs to. That’s more of the reason that I say he won’t be a viable candidate his first two years.That's not really a fair comparison because Williams and Birchmeier although ahead of most Olinemen in development and talent, they are also already enrolled which will allow them to put on muscle under the direction of the PSU S&C leadership for 6 months ahead of Fall practice as well as learn the offense and refine technique during Spring practice.
Onoh is reportedly a very good athlete for an OT prospect, but he won't arrive until the Summer which limits his prospects to get on the field in 2023 even if he improves his S&C some on his own before Fall camp.
Just have to be pleased that on paper Trautwein has put together the best PSU oline class in memory. Like every position, prospects don't all pan out, but this group will very likely mature into more OL starters and higher level players than most OL classes.
And with all the returning OL starters and contributors the staff may still try and redshirt all 4 of the 2023 class olinemen. The players that are ready to contribute can play in 4 regular season games and then play in the bowl game when a couple of the NFL bound players may choose to sit out to prepare for the NFL (unless PSU is in the 4 team playoff) and that seems like the best case scenario as it will take the returning players staying healthy and continuity usually leads to better performance with olines.......
Agreed on the last part, not the first part.Athlete. We have had some success with these types in the past. Traut knows what he wants.
Year 4. Maybe.Guys like Williams and Birchmeier, are kids that will be ready to play this fall if needed. Onoh is more of a kid that by year three he’s ready to start.
There are many high school players that are a high cut above the level competition they play in high school. Players differing learning curves and some can be bulk up quickly and some can't. Time will tell the story for all recruits not us.I understand what you’re saying, but as someone who’s seen him play, it wouldn’t matter if he was coming in early or not. The league he plays in is not very good. He is a very good athlete as shown by his track numbers but he has not seen the size of defensive ends that he needs to. That’s more of the reason that I say he won’t be a viable candidate his first two years.
A lot of the same was said about Journey Brown. He was a late offer IIRC. And many doubted he would pan out. Came from a small school in a weak conference. A couple years later he was on some peoples Heisman watch list until health issues ended his career.There are many high school players that are a high cut above the level competition they play in high school. Players differing learning curves and some can be bulk up quickly and some can't. Time will tell the story for all recruits not us.
True, I just want to temper some peoples expectations with him being a four-star. He seems like a very bright kid, he’s very athletic but going from playing 180 pound defensive ends who are lucky to bench 250 to play against 250 pound defensive ends who can bench 400 and run a 4.7 is much different.There are many high school players that are a high cut above the level competition they play in high school. Players differing learning curves and some can be bulk up quickly and some can't. Time will tell the story for all recruits not us.
Time will tell. Sean Farrell-Mike Munchak for example and many more over the decades. Farrell was the most heralded of the two and was a great player but Munchak not heralded yet exploded..demeanor..work-a-holic? time will tell.True, I just want to temper some peoples expectations with him being a four-star. He seems like a very bright kid, he’s very athletic but going from playing 180 pound defensive ends who are lucky to bench 250 to play against 250 pound defensive ends who can bench 400 and run a 4.7 is much different.
IIRC, Iorio was a walk on…..and started every game at center from his freshman year on.Time will tell. Sean Farrell-Mike Munchak for example and many more over the decades. Farrell was the most heralded of the two and was a great player but Munchak not heralded yet exploded..demeanor..work-a-holic? time will tell.
Seeing guys off the radar excell...have a growth spurt into another position and excell is one of the more interesting aspects of recruiting. If a highschool athlete has not yet experienced a growth spurt, which can be tracked, or is playing out of position, get them on campus and work them out. Your 1 or 2 star recruit can turn out to be a great get, especially if they come from small schools.IIRC, Iorio was a walk on…..and started every game at center from his freshman year on.
Who was the guy that entered college at 6’ 2”, 210 and left at 6’ 8” and 270? Played several years in the NFL started with the Browns. There was another guy that was recruited as QB and grew so much he ended up playing d line……he kept his QB number the whole time and drove me nuts playing d line with a QB number!Seeing guys off the radar excell...have a growth spurt into another position and excell is one of the more interesting aspects of recruiting. If a highschool athlete has not yet experienced a growth spurt, which can be tracked, or is playing out of position, get them on campus and work them out. Your 1 or 2 star recruit can turn out to be a great get, especially if they come from small schools.
I was thinking about the kid who played opposite Courtney Brown. Played QB at Upper Merion, and wound up playing TE, DT, and DE for Penn State. I can't quite recall his name but he was a hell of a player. Bad knees slid him down in the draft and cost him a long career with the Bears.Who was the guy that entered college at 6’ 2”, 210 and left at 6’ 8” and 270? Played several years in the NFL started with the Browns. There was another guy that was recruited as QB and grew so much he ended up playing d line……he kept his QB number the whole time and drove me nuts playing d line with a QB number!
I was thinking about the kid who played opposite Courtney Brown. Played QB at Upper Merion, and wound up playing TE, DT, and DE for Penn State. I can't quite recall his name but he was a hell of a player. Bad knees slid him down in the draft and cost him a long career with the Bears.
Brad Scioli. Tough as nails and a good athlete.I was thinking about the kid who played opposite Courtney Brown. Played QB at Upper Merion, and wound up playing TE, DT, and DE for Penn State. I can't quite recall his name but he was a hell of a player. Bad knees slid him down in the draft and cost him a long career with the Bears.