If what you're saying is true, that graduate assistants make the vote, then that poll is really nonsensical.
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IDK how widespread it is in wrestling, but nobody should be surprised if it gets delegated, just a matter of how far down. Head Coaches have too many more important responsibilities.
It has been a long-running practice in football -- as in, for decades.
IIRC coaches are assigned weights to vote on, so no coach has to figure out who the 30th best guy is at 10 weights. That's a little better.
But I'll go a step further than you: IMO the coaches' poll (regardless of who fills it out) is an awful criterion for NCAA auto-qualifier allocation, at-large allocation, and seeding. Its use for the national tournament should be discontinued.
I was saying Parker Keckeisen as PK. Whether he should get a #1 vote or not isn't really the point. I was just saying I could see a coach or coaches giving a #1 vote.
Sammy Sasso dropped to 157 and is 5-2 at that weight
Kai Orine from NC State dropped to 133 and is 2-1
Richie Figueroa is 5-1.
Paniro Johnson dropped to 149 and is 6-0 at that weight.
Do I get extra credit?
There are a few more, but the one that stands out to me is Chris Cannon. Intermat has him #27 at 141, but he only has 5 matches.
He stands out because he's 1-4 with 3 bonus losses, and ranked. I'd hate to be the unranked guys at that weight.
Found the roster. Which three coaches do you think had Starocci 2 or lower?
| ACC | Chris Ayres | 184 |
| ACC | Keith Gavin | 184 |
| B1G | Sean Bormet | 184 |
| B1G | Tom Ryan | 184 |
| Big12 | Doug Schwab | 184 |
| Big12 | Kevin Dresser | 184 |
| EIWA | Matt Azevedo | 184 |
| EIWA | Kenny Monday | 184 |
| Ivy | Joseph Dubuque | 184 |
| Ivy | Jordan Leen | 184 |
| MAC | Donnie Vinson | 184 |
| MAC | Ben Bennett | 184 |
| Pac-12 | Neil Erisman | 184 |
| Pac-12 | Jon Sioredas | 184 |
| Southern | Nate Carr Jr. | 184 |
| Southern | Mark Cody | 184 |
One of them is obvious. I'm going to go Bormet and Ryan for the other two. How about you?
The 2nd set of coaches rankings and the 1st RPI rankings will be released this Thursday.
I can't see you but you seem to have a much clearer head today lmfao. Just kidding.
why is Crookham still ranked hasn't flo droppd other wrestlers out of ranking with more matches?
Flo always follow their own rules, until they don’t…
The great thing about double standards is: twice as many standards.
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Coaches rankings for PSU (125-285): 5, 8, 3, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2
RPI for PSU NR, NR, Bartlett 5, Van Ness 2, NR, NR, Haines 2, Starocci 6, NR, Kerkvliet 7
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Eight in the top three is just crazy.
remember when "murders row" was five #1s?
what an embarrassment of riches this is.
There was a time I tried to explain HR that PSU would not be running out of steam anytime soon. It started with DT, Ed and Q supplemented by 2 dudes who had 4AAs, 2 finals, 1 championship (Frank) and a 3 time AA 2 time finalist and a championship (Matt) and Nico. The second time through Nico's championship, Zain, Jason, Joesph and Bo supplemented by Rasheed, Anthony, Nick and Hall. As this went along it was obvious PSU was moving towards a 10 hammer lineup and HR needed to understand it was only going to get worse. Of course I got the typical HR response, get outta here. You ain't know nothing, he cheats, he just recruits, Sandusky.
Most HR fans have struggled to grasp what has been going on right in front of them and their wrongness is so absolute their bitterness is a can't be helped manifestation brought by their failure to simply understand the obvious.
Cael, Casey and Cody are the 3 headed horsemen of collegiate athletics.
The 5 Stages of Grief:
1) Denial
2) Anger
3) Bargaining
4) Depression
5) Acceptance
Sounds like you were posting over there between 1st & 2nd stages.
Every year they get to stage 4. Then with the appropriate April 1st, hope arises and they return to stage 1 and work through 2, 3 throughout the year and the inevitable 3rd weekend in March depression stage.
Not enough matches. They are each one short. Lilledahl, Davis, and Kasak each had a match against a teammate, Barr had two, and Messenbrink was on the receiving end of two forfeits. None of that counts for RPI.
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