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Bill O’Brien would be a better fit! Belichick may be leaving NE, so Bill may be available.
I like the point about giving confidence. It would be nice to have another coach say, "Those xuckers can play". Besides confidence, swagger also means playing tough and down right nasty.
I was telling this to my brother. The offense lacks confidence and swagger. it lacks team leadership. Last year, we had a 47 year old starting QB who played for 15 seasons. (exaggeration alert) This year, I don't see any leadership.I like the point about giving confidence. It would be nice to have another coach say, "Those xuckers can play". Besides confidence, swagger also means playing tough and down right nasty.
Coach BOB did a great job of instilling confidence and swagger. His OL helped a not so fast or quick Zwinak run for a lot of yards. His kids played mean.Bill O’Brien would be a better fit! Belichick may be leaving NE, so Bill may be available.
Looking back is always dangerous and complicated. Maybe Moorhead would be interested, but his offense is not new anymore, and I don’t see Allar benefitting. Just kidding on Bill, I think…
I still think the offensive line is better now though. Just imagine what Barkley could have done with a better o-line... Not to mention the defense.His points are valid, but for those who are romanticizing the Moorhead era please keep in mind:
1) His team averaged 36 PPG. Current team averages 35 PPG
2) He had Saquon Barkley (no offense to our current RBs who I love but they are not Saquon)
3) In 2016, they only scored 10 points against Michigan and 14 points against OSU (other TD coming on special teams).
I'm not sure he's the answer.
I agree, but the WR now are worse (unfortunately) which tends to make the offense more one dimensional.I still think the offensive line is better now though. Just imagine what Barkley could have done with a better o-line... Not to mention the defense.
so I know everyone is on lambert smith as not being a good receiver. But last year he ended up as number 1 by default and somehow was able to get open and his share of receptions. So what happened?I agree, but the WR now are worse (unfortunately) which tends to make the offense more one dimensional.
I agree, but the WR now are worse (unfortunately) which tends to make the offense more one dimensional.
KLS is good but he's not dominant enough to be a WR1. Ideally your WR1 commands double teams (or at least dedicated safety help) which frees up WR2 and WR3 to do things.so I know everyone is on lambert smith as not being a good receiver. But last year he ended up as number 1 by default and somehow was able to get open and his share of receptions. So what happened?
if nothing else just send omari evans downfield every play. Somebody would have to cover him
He also had the KING of the 50-50 ball in Trace. I remember the days of Trace as just throw it up and someone was going to come down with it.His points are valid, but for those who are romanticizing the Moorhead era please keep in mind:
1) His team averaged 36 PPG. Current team averages 35 PPG
2) He had Saquon Barkley (no offense to our current RBs who I love but they are not Saquon)
3) In 2016, they only scored 10 points against Michigan and 14 points against OSU (other TD coming on special teams).
I'm not sure he's the answer.
I am full of responding to you this afternoon!!KLS is good but he's not dominant enough to be a WR1. Ideally your WR1 commands double teams (or at least dedicated safety help) which frees up WR2 and WR3 to do things.
Or you can have two very good (e.g. KLS and Parker W) WRs which make it impossible to commit the safety to help. This is what we had last year.
Maybe if Tre Wallace isn't hurt we have that second scenario, but unfortunately he's been out for most of the year. Neither Cephas nor McClain has been what we had hoped.
That cat got LA written all over him. He and his super model gf would be in culture shock. And for those that say he was in Lubbock......that was before he became a rock star.Outside the box. Kliff Kingsbury?
omari evans
It’s a lot better.I still think the offensive line is better now though. Just imagine what Barkley could have done with a better o-line... Not to mention the defense.
I think much of it is coaching. Both tactically and technically.Illinois threw for 500+ yards Saturday. Isaiah is probably the only receiver who would get am offer from PSU. IT'S THE COACHING. WR confidence is lower than a snake's belly. The WRs were great in 2016 in a large part because of the confidence in the offense and coaching. We already have the Jimmies and Joe's. They need a leader.
This we agree onMaybe this one isn't popular but what about Dan Mullen? He's originally from PA though that doesn't really matter as much as it used to.
- Proven track record developing QBs at Utah, Florida (under Meyer), and Miss State.
- His HC tenure at Florida wasn't as successful as Miss State but his offense put up numbers; it was his defense that let him down.
- One of his knocks was he didnt like to recruit or didnt put as much time into it as he should being a HC. As OC here, yes, he'd have to do recruiting but it's different when you are the HC.
- Like Diaz, he can learn from his prior successful and unsuccessful experiences as a coordinator here.
Kyle Trask was barely a runner so I think Mullen can adjust.This we agree on
My only concern is I don't think Allar fits what he wants to do offensively. He's another guy that likes QB that are going to run regularly. Or at least prefers that.
He made it work with Trask but it wasn't ideal for him. That's what I'm saying. Allar isn't his ideal QB situation.Kyle Trask was barely a runner so I think Mullen can adjust.
Well, the gf is from a small town in Poland so she may like SC. And I know some great Polish recipes so I would be happy to sacrifice some time and help her feel welcome!That cat got LA written all over him. He and his super model gf would be in culture shock. And for those that say he was in Lubbock......that was before he became a rock star.
If wr2 and wr3 know how to run a route!KLS is good but he's not dominant enough to be a WR1. Ideally your WR1 commands double teams (or at least dedicated safety help) which frees up WR2 and WR3 to do things.
Or you can have two very good (e.g. KLS and Parker W) WRs which make it impossible to commit the safety to help. This is what we had last year.
Maybe if Tre Wallace isn't hurt we have that second scenario, but unfortunately he's been out for most of the year. Neither Cephas nor McClain has been what we had hoped.
I like Joe Moorehead a lot . He’s incredibly smart. I’m just not seeing a 245 pound QB being able to run a true ( convincing ) RPO. Those late “pulls” in the backfield will result in many QB sacks…. He’s not ( understandably) close to McSorley’s quickness/agility…or even decision making. —If Moorehead believes he can “hybridize” his RPO to fit Allar , given his past OC success, I’d love to have him. But left unchanged, his previously designed Penn State offense is obviously better suited for Beau. — As I said, if Coach Moorehead believes he can successfully tweak it to take advantage of Allar’s abilities, I hope he gets the shot….but on the surface I’m not optimistic it can happen and believe a different OC will be hired.
Really comes down to being a head coach Vs wanting a ton more money for guys like him.Moorhead went 2-10 last year at Akron, and this year he is 2-8
I hope it's not Morehead.I like Joe Moorehead a lot . He’s incredibly smart. I’m just not seeing a 245 pound QB being able to run a true ( convincing ) RPO. Those late “pulls” in the backfield will result in many QB sacks…. He’s not ( understandably) close to McSorley’s quickness/agility…or even decision making. —If Moorehead believes he can “hybridize” his RPO to fit Allar , given his past OC success, I’d love to have him. But left unchanged, his previously designed Penn State offense is obviously better suited for Beau. — As I said, if Coach Moorehead believes he can successfully tweak it to take advantage of Allar’s abilities, I hope he gets the shot….but on the surface I’m not optimistic it can happen and believe a different OC will be hired.
His points are valid, but for those who are romanticizing the Moorhead era please keep in mind:
1) His team averaged 36 PPG. Current team averages 35 PPG
2) He had Saquon Barkley (no offense to our current RBs who I love but they are not Saquon)
3) In 2016, they only scored 10 points against Michigan and 14 points against OSU (other TD coming on special teams).
I'm not sure
Mullen will either get his old job back at Miss St. , or he’ll stay in broadcasting. We should hope MSU takes him back otherwise that could be Manny’s job to loseMaybe this one isn't popular but what about Dan Mullen? He's originally from PA though that doesn't really matter as much as it used to.
- Proven track record developing QBs at Utah, Florida (under Meyer), and Miss State.
- His HC tenure at Florida wasn't as successful as Miss State but his offense put up numbers; it was his defense that let him down.
- One of his knocks was he didnt like to recruit or didnt put as much time into it as he should being a HC. As OC here, yes, he'd have to do recruiting but it's different when you are the HC.
- Like Diaz, he can learn from his prior successful and unsuccessful experiences as a coordinator here.
His last point is dead on. Extremely important decision/hire for Franklin.
Why would Manny want to take the MSU job? Seems like a very difficult fix.Mullen will either get his old job back at Miss St. , or he’ll stay in broadcasting. We should hope MSU takes him back otherwise that could be Manny’s job to lose
Msu is y goi g with another defensive coach. End of story.Why would Manny want to take the MSU job? Seems like a very difficult fix.
I love how Kingsbury has career losing records in both college and nfl yet still gets mentioned for every head coaching opening.Kingsbury is going to get an HC role if he goes back to college.
I love how Kingsbury has career losing records in both college and nfl yet still gets mentioned for every head coaching opening.
2016 was the beginning of Moorhead putting that offense together. Those players were young and didn’t “come alive” in Mooreheads system until after the UM game. Context is always appreciated in posts but seldom used.His points are valid, but for those who are romanticizing the Moorhead era please keep in mind:
1) His team averaged 36 PPG. Current team averages 35 PPG
2) He had Saquon Barkley (no offense to our current RBs who I love but they are not Saquon)
3) In 2016, they only scored 10 points against Michigan and 14 points against OSU (other TD coming on special teams).
I'm not sure he's the answer.
I guess it depends on how we see an OC. If the new hire brings a system that we're not staffed for then we wait the two or three years while he recruits people to fit his system. On the other hand if an OC is an offensive coach he adjusts his plays - not necessarily his philosophy - to fit the players that he has,I like Joe Moorehead a lot . He’s incredibly smart. I’m just not seeing a 245 pound QB being able to run a true ( convincing ) RPO. Those late “pulls” in the backfield will result in many QB sacks…. He’s not ( understandably) close to McSorley’s quickness/agility…or even decision making. —If Moorehead believes he can “hybridize” his RPO to fit Allar , given his past OC success, I’d love to have him. But left unchanged, his previously designed Penn State offense is obviously better suited for Beau. — As I said, if Coach Moorehead believes he can successfully tweak it to take advantage of Allar’s abilities, I hope he gets the shot….but on the surface I’m not optimistic it can happen and believe a different OC will be hired.
They came alive after Moorehead moved Gisecki off the line off of scrimmage. Then defenses moved a defender out of the box.2016 was the beginning of Moorhead putting that offense together. Those players were young and didn’t “come alive” in Mooreheads system until after the UM game. Context is always appreciated in posts but seldom used.