Adam Coon to the NFL
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Well said. If people are concerned about CTE and concussions, I guess wrestling is out of the question...look at Brady Berge. I suffered a concussion while wrestling in high school, stopped a headlock by posting with my head (it was like the scene from Rocky IV, hit the one in the middle).
I never played a down of organized football either and get ridiculed when I point out that Joe Paterno on his call-in show once told a father that his son should not play football until high school since too many youth coaches do not know what they are doing (they don't). He advised playing basketball and soccer to develop footwork, the fundamental skill for football.
Regarding CTE, it can only be diagnosed after death. The people donating brains for CTE research almost always have had cognitive issues/dementia, etc. The people already had problems. Why is it that some people with many years of football do not develop cognitive issues, but some do with limited football experience? Correlation is not causation, but it is interesting and concerning.
I am not downplaying CTE or the concerns with contact sports. I can say, repeatedly hitting your head on something is probably not good for a developing brain. This includes football, soccer, etc. I have no issue modifying youth sports to reduce head contact, my flag football, less heading in soccer, etc.
probably because all hwt's don't have a passion for football - as I would assume you have to in order to make it to the top
How full is the OL cupboard at the Titans? That may determine if Coon makes the final cut or not. Even if he sticks around to the final round of cuts that may show enough for another team to pick him up.
I think I got CTE from reading this thread.
There is a 'huge' difference between 280+ and 330, pardon the pun. He was a monster next to 250lb heavies who knows how many lbs he has put on since, but if you are not 310+ you are small for the NFL.
I will be shocked if he makes it through July, and amazed if he were to eke his way onto the practice squad.
I will be shocked if he makes it through July, and amazed if he were to eke his way onto the practice squad.
Lane Johnson weighs 310. Jason Kelce weighs 280. They're pretty good for being "small for the NFL."
Coon at 300 lb will have at least as much muscle mass as the 340 lb butterballs, and will be as agile.
I don't see how those three names are compatable. If Coon had played 4 years of D1 football I might change my tune. This is truly an 'experiment'.
I think you'd be surprised at how agile many/most of those 340lb butterballs are. If size was all there was to it, I could have made the NFL
I don't know how you can say this with any confidence. It's far more likely that he'll be one of the worst athletes in the league.
If I remember correctly, he was only a 2 or 3 star recruit out of high school. I'll be absolutely shocked if he makes the roster. I could see them keeping him on the practice squad for a year to see if they can make something of him.
As to the idea Gable would be an elite football prospect, I think not. Did he even play high school football? He doesn't have the frame to play the line and he doesn't have the speed to play linebacker in the modern nfl. By his own account, he runs a 4.8 (likely slower in actuality). The best position for him would probably be fullback, which is probably the least valuable position in the league and most teams don't even use them anymore.
People don't understand how freakish NFL players are.
You said he would be small for the NFL. Simply going thru NFL rosters provides real examples of guys in his weight range or smaller, whose size did not hinder them.
His technique and lack of experience are bigger issues.
I assume your objection is to the comment about his agility. Because a 300-lb guy with wrestler's build is carrying a lot less non-lean mass -- that shouldn't be controversial.
His position is not about overall athleticism. Nobody gives a rip about an offensive guard's 40 time, his broad jump, vertical jump, etc. What matters is a few specific athletic traits: enough agility to create an angle with the guy in front of him, and enough strength to push him away or at least not get bulldozed. Things world class Greco wrestlers do daily in practice.
Plus enough agility to occasionally pull or help out a teammate -- which also gets into film study and detailed knowledge of the playbook. Presumably an aerospace grad can figure out the mental part.
Coon will be better conditioned than the 340-lb guys, which means his agility and strength will degrade less over the course of a full game and a full season. (Also his decision-making will degrade less.)
Coon's HS recruit rating is immaterial today. He was a 250-lb LB prospect. Completely different skill requirement -- for example, interior linemen aren't expected to run sideline to sideline.
Presumably Coon will also be more disciplined than, say, the Titans' 2020 first round pick (also an offensive lineman) who's already out of football.
Completely agree that he's most likely to make the practice squad or not make the team.
At least we can all agree that Ben Askren’s wrestling athleticism would translate well to the different sport of boxing. 
Especially his training and preparation.At least we can all agree that Ben Askren’s wrestling athleticism would translate well to the different sport of boxing.
You keep saying things like this, but there's no way we actually know. NFL linemen are freaks of nature themselves. Frankly, the talent pool in football at that size is lightyears ahead of where it is in wrestling.
There is a way to find out, which is what the kid is doing. With an Aerosoace Emgineering degree, he probably understand the long shot he is attempting, but he has a better shot than most other people on the planet.
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My favorite was pronounced Shith-Ayd...spelled S-h-i-t-h-e-a-d.
Years ago my wife was reviewing payroll records for Kraft foods. Her all time winner was Anita K. Dick. What were the parents thinking?
Long shot for sure, probably a hail mary type long shot, but I think we can all agree it doesn't take an aerospace engineer to calculate the NFL minimum salary is probably 8x your average entry level AE salary, not to mention all of the other ancillary benefits. Regardless of the odds, I think most people would jump at the chance.
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NFL MINIMUM Salary is $660K. I think that is more like 10x the entry salary for an aerospace engineer.
according to Glassdoor: The national average salary for a Aerospace Engineer is $94,197
And NASA pays it's interns $17 per hour.
OK......so the NFL pays only 7 times more money. Damn Liars
I thought we were talking starting salaries, not average. Salary.com says ave starting salary for aerospace engineers is ~$76K.OK......so the NFL pays only 7 times more money. Damn Liars
That is still less than nine times the NFL base. Stop trying to pull the wool over my eyes. I know what I know! PS: Please don't take either post seriously...I'm a Putz......just playingI thought we were talking starting salaries, not average. Salary.com says ave starting salary for aerospace engineers is ~$76K.
Physical pain, no. Financial pain, yes!So true!
