I’m not telling anyone else what to do, but I’m going to dispense with the judgment for now and just continue to hope that everyone involved has a quick and complete recovery.
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Not a child certainly, but still developing. I'd call him a kid too, at my age.
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He is a kid if everyone is ok but if someone died, then he is most likely an inmate. Praying for all involved that only good comes from this.
For whatever reason, DUI seems to be more highly stigmatized in society than being equally stupid and reckless while sober. In terms of legal penalties, i don't know OK law, but reckless driving is typically a fine and some points. I doubt that would be enough to be kicked off the team or expelled from the school (unless, of course, it's found he was drinking, too, which I have NOT seen any reports of).
I will be brutally honest. I hope he is not ok and his season is over. If I was his coach, his season would be over. What he did is incredibly stupid, irresponsible and shows he doesn't give a crap about anybody but himself.
This is more than a little personal to me. About 10 years ago, a young male did the exact same thing and hit my parents head on. Eventually they were okay. However, there were a few broken bones, a few surgeries and still some lingering physical issues.
Oh yeah, the ahole that hit them got a fine and a few points. I hope they throw the book at AJ. That type of irresponsibility needs to be more than a fine and a few points.
This is more than a little personal to me. About 10 years ago, a young male did the exact same thing and hit my parents head on. Eventually they were okay. However, there were a few broken bones, a few surgeries and still some lingering physical issues.
Oh yeah, the ahole that hit them got a fine and a few points. I hope they throw the book at AJ. That type of irresponsibility needs to be more than a fine and a few points.
We all have lesson to learn and he seems to need to learn that he cannot be totally reckless al the time because it can end in an instant. Hopefully, he learned that and will act a bit more sensibly in the future. Although, I am sure we will not see him with a shirt on ever again.
I am a lot smarter at 62 than I was at 20. He is still a kid in many ways, in my eyes. However, if he does not learn from things like this, he may never become a man because his days are numbered. You can only play with fire so many times before you really get burnt.
You hope that he is not ok? What a brazen thing to say. Terrible take imo.
I feel a little conflicted due to my own personal experiences.
My brother was life-flighted and his car totalled by an at-fault driver who crossed the centerline. I took an ambulance ride after my truck was totalled when I had to avoid a head-on collision after the at-fault driver tried to take a sharp left at high speed (failing to yield the right away) and lost control of his vehicle.
And yet, I can't help but pray for the best of all involved. I feel for any person injured regardless of circumstance, not limited to the recklessness of another. I can still feel for any 20-something's suffering so due to their own recklessness.
Call me hopelessly empathetic or compassionate.
Some say there's power and healing in forgiveness.
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Shoulda been cited for reckless endangerment for the AR night firing, good chance THAT would have set him strait and this may not have even happened. Figured he was gonna kill someone one way or another, God obviously had a close eye on him and the folks in the other car.
At the risk of showing off too much of my empathy, I’m a pretty firm believer in the tragedy is all loss of life, so thankfully it seems like that has been avoided here. I hope the best future outcome for all those involved. Ferrari is a character, but he’s still got a full life ahead of him. Thankfully, it seems everyone else will, too.
Prolly while you were on one of your self imposed vacations, trust me, it happened and Im not getting into it again.
I don't see the "reaction surprised' as equivalent to actually liking. So it seems a limitation of the board making ambiguous. Also, I don't infer a challenge to another's take as actually stating an opinion one way or another. It's all ambiguous, IMHO.
Freedom to exercise your Constitutional rights within the law is not a blank check to do whatever the f#$k you want to. Don't equate what AJ did to freedom. It was selfish stupidity.
Turk, it only shows someone clicked an emoji. I don't pay attention to them, If you were the one who clicked on the weird face, then I agree you were consistent.
Jeez, some terrible takes in this thread. To be fair, some caring, empathetic ones too. Hope all involved are ok.
I'm happy he's going to be okay, but I'm far happier the people whose injuries he caused are going to be okay.
Oklahoma isn't a no-fault state, so he could be fully liable for the damages and injuries to everyone else involved, including his own passengers. The reports suggest everyone else suffered only minor scrapes but it's hard to square with his AJ's father's characterization of the SUV. Insurance may or may not cover, or may cover some of it, depending on the policy. Either way his rate is going way up and not coming down for a long while.
He could also be charged, and probably should, with reckless driving. 47 OK Stat § 11-901.
Oklahoma isn't a no-fault state, so he could be fully liable for the damages and injuries to everyone else involved, including his own passengers. The reports suggest everyone else suffered only minor scrapes but it's hard to square with his AJ's father's characterization of the SUV. Insurance may or may not cover, or may cover some of it, depending on the policy. Either way his rate is going way up and not coming down for a long while.
He could also be charged, and probably should, with reckless driving. 47 OK Stat § 11-901.
No worries. Just click the on the blue reactions one time. It will show you how all reacted that chose to.
I am glad there were no serious injuries.
That said. I am sure he will learn from this. PD3 was once a college athlete himself who made some questionable decisions, and everything turned out just fine.
That said. I am sure he will learn from this. PD3 was once a college athlete himself who made some questionable decisions, and everything turned out just fine.
Maryland, where I live, is also not a no fault state. As soon as 100% fault is determined, the victim of an accident is left to their own devices, including getting a lawyer, to be made whole. The victim's insurance no longer has any standing. My own experience is that the at fault driver's insurance will neither be reasonable nor timely. It will be years before there is any settlement. It's a sad state of affairs.
Would like to know what his passenger was doing while the 3 cars were being passed.
Egging him on or ruining a pair of pants?
Egging him on or ruining a pair of pants?
To be fair to Lyon, perspective matters. He clearly feels what could have been straight up tragedy was met with a punishment that didn’t fit a possible and highly foreseeable outcome. Tough to take a stand against his thought processes unless we have experienced that level and that specific experience.
I don’t wish him hurt, but passing three cars, hitting an oncoming one without hitting any others and nobody dead….is lucky. Damn lucky.
If I was his coach, and he walks back in the room this year healthy, he would not be wrestling until next year.
Ironic that you brought up PD3 since he just had a car accident also.
Of course different scale of damage I believe.
I can understand being angry at what happened to your parents. I can understand wanting to be sure that AJ pays a price for his foolishness so as to deter others from acting the same way. However, if he had gotten seriously injured, would that have benefitted your parents in any way? Would their lingering physical injuries suddenly heal up?
Let's hope that other kids will learn not to be in such hurry and not to take such reckless chances. Everyone think the kid is a bit of a show off and a clown, but I seriously doubt that he thought, I will try to pass these people and if someone gets hurt: no big deal.
Yeah, but they teach passing plenty in the classroom for the written test. I just took online traffic school (for safe but too-fast speeding) and passing was a whole chapter. The chapter specifically mentioned every element of AJ’s incident (seeing far enough ahead, lane markers of no passing zones, hill crests or curves, and passing multiple cars).
But if book learning truly is never enough, sex education in schools may need to add practical instruction!
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Totally with you on everything, except the highlighted part. I seriously doubt this cat actually THINKS much at all, ever. Chalk it up to youth, a big dose of testosterone fueled bravado and that unwritten, wink-wink, everything is fine attitude athletes of his caliber get from the instant they start competing that makes them believe everything they do is, in fact, fine and will be OK, no matter what.
Until you pass 3 cars, uphill in a no passing zone, hit another driver head on and, reality check, everything ISN'T fine.
For years I have been preaching to my kids, now 18 and 22, to please, please, please try to stop and think of the consequences of what they are considering doing, even for a few seconds, before they do it. Even that quick self-check might avert a disaster (at least I hope - fingers crossed).
The good news is when God sends lemons he allows us to make Lemonade out of them. Hopefully AJ realizes how fortunate he is to have what he has in life, physically and athletically and is now humbled and will change accordingly. There's a good chance his season is over, due more to the consequences of his carelessness than his recovery. Again, glad the outcome was good for most everyone involved.
Sadly, the classroom for teaching passing is next to no help. Understanding your car’s acceleration and subsequent likely higher speed handling reentering a lane are factors one can’t teach.Yeah, but they teach passing plenty in the classroom for the written test. I just took online traffic school (for safe but too-fast speeding) and passing was a whole chapter. The chapter specifically mentioned every element of AJ’s incident (seeing far enough ahead, lane markers of no passing zones, hill crests or curves, and passing multiple cars).
But if book learning truly is never enough, sex education in schools may need practical instruction!
as to Health Class, as a parent I find your assertion ridiculous. As a student….I’d be all for it!!!! (Unless we line up and have to count off by 3’s or something).
I don't know. I specifically remember the "don't pass 3 cars at a time, at the crest of a hill, in a no-passing zone" lesson.
Thankfully the person in the other car and AJ's passenger seem to be ok. The only thing off putting to me is the fact that the father and brother were on social media at all. If it were me social media can wait.
It is past time to end the speculation and moralizing. This is a wrestling forum, not a platform to theorize about automobile accidents and discuss insurance law. This thread should be locked or deleted and the posters should return to actual wrestling talk.
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