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I wonder where Sir Paul's solo offerings as well as his work with Wings would fall? Talk about some dreck. Ebony and Ivory, Jet ...Just started looking at this and I'm already agitated. I don't love Good Day Sunshine, but it is far from their worst song. Did the writer listen to Octopus's Garden?
Dig a Pony at 209? The lyrics are a little silly, but there are plenty of silly Beatles songs. Musically, this song is very strong - great guitar riffs, interesting chord changes, and pretty vocal harmonies. Very nice guitar solo.
Simply having a wonderful christmas timeI wonder where Sir Paul's solo offerings as well as his work with Wings would fall? Talk about some dreck. Ebony and Ivory, Jet ...
Just started looking at this and I'm already agitated. I don't love Good Day Sunshine, but it is far from their worst song. Did the writer listen to Octopus's Garden?
Dig a Pony at 209? The lyrics are a little silly, but there are plenty of silly Beatles songs. Musically, this song is very strong - great guitar riffs, interesting chord changes, and pretty vocal harmonies. Very nice guitar solo.
yeah...but it is just some schmuck's opinion. Its no different from David Jones questioning the 3rd and 2 call in the fourth quarter of a key game; but worse. in this case, its art. If Octopuses Garden speaks to you, so be it.
i mean, WTF is this (below)? someone spilled the paint. I mean, somebody paid $140,000,000 for it:
Right...agree...but that is the economics. At some point, someone thought Pollack's stuff was cool and, therefore, valuable. So that is where the "art" part comes in. Lest they'd be paying a ton of money from my 12 year old daughter's fourth grade drawings and spirographs on the wall near my desk.Art like this isn't about Art. It is about parking assets. Just like $20mm NYC apartments.
Difference is the carry costs on art are almost zero. And you can move it.
Right...agree...but that is the economics. At some point, someone thought Pollack's stuff was cool and, therefore, valuable. So that is where the "art" part comes in. Lest they'd be paying a ton of money from my 12 year old daughter's fourth grade drawings and spirographs on the wall near my desk.
Did you live in Dallas? I recognize the Interfirst building and the Hyatt Regency, not sure its called the Interfirs anymore.Right...agree...but that is the economics. At some point, someone thought Pollack's stuff was cool and, therefore, valuable. So that is where the "art" part comes in. Lest they'd be paying a ton of money from my 12 year old daughter's fourth grade drawings and spirographs on the wall near my desk.
I read a great piece in the late, lamented Spy Magazine about an artist fromyeah...but it is just some schmuck's opinion. Its no different from David Jones questioning the 3rd and 2 call in the fourth quarter of a key game; but worse. in this case, its art. If Octopuses Garden speaks to you, so be it.
i mean, WTF is this (below)? someone spilled the paint. I mean, somebody paid $140,000,000 for it:
Agree and disagree. Of course opinion is a significant factor. However, there are tangible criteria that can define the quality of the song.yeah...but it is just some schmuck's opinion. Its no different from David Jones questioning the 3rd and 2 call in the fourth quarter of a key game; but worse. in this case, its art. If Octopuses Garden speaks to you, so be it.
i mean, WTF is this (below)? someone spilled the paint. I mean, somebody paid $140,000,000 for it:
Yep...but then you get something simple and perfect like "yesterday". How do you factor in the simple complexity of a song like that? Beatles, far and away in my mind, the best ever. Love "Love" in Vegas...sound system exemplifies their harmonies. Just incredible mix of talents.Agree and disagree. Of course opinion is a significant factor. However, there are tangible criteria that can define the quality of the song.
Pitch accuracy
Melodic content
Harmonic complexity - instrument and vocal
Is the rhythm consistent
Arrangement
Mix
Recording quality
Individual instrumental parts (solos, drum fills, etc)
Tone of vocals/instruments (may be more opinion on this)
Yesterday is not so simple. It is one of very few pop/rock songs that are in the Jazz Real book.Yep...but then you get something simple and perfect like "yesterday". How do you factor in the simple complexity of a song like that? Beatles, far and away in my mind, the best ever. Love "Love" in Vegas...sound system exemplifies their harmonies. Just incredible mix of talents.
OK...I yield to your greater knowledge of music! To me, I just listen to them.Yesterday is not so simple. It is one of very few pop/rock songs that are in the Jazz Real book.
Start with the arrangement. It begins with acoustic guitar and then a really interesting string arrangement enters in the 2nd verse. The string arrangement changes slightly throughout the song.
It has harmonic complexity - the chords don't follow one key, there are a number of subtle key shifts and also the use of 7th chords. Add in some bass line walk downs and a nice bridge. Top it off with a very graceful melody.
Hope I don't come across as condescending. This is my wheel house.OK...I yield to your greater knowledge of music! To me, I just listen to them.
If you are so smart, what is the Chord that opens "Hard Days Night?"
Hope I don't come across as condescending. This is my wheel house.
If I remember right, Hard Days Night starts with a dominant 7 chord with a suspended 4th. Not a very common chord to use in a rock song, and definitely unusual to start with it.
I prefer the dominant 7 #5 chord that starts Oh Darling.
George Martin's impact cannot be overstated.No, not at all. I enjoyed your comments but have to confess, didn't understand a lot of it. Beatles are fascinating in that they had very little training but just gutted it out. Add in old salts that they moved in and out (like George Martin, Eric Clapton, billy preston, etc.) and it is the definition of the "whole being greater than the sum of the parts".
and phil spector! BTW, what do you think of "the long and winding road?" it has long been one of my favorites. But sir paul said that it really killed the group when spector added the symphony without getting the OK. I really like the symphony on it..it gave the song more depth and was symbolic of the long, complex road IMHO.George Martin's impact cannot be overstated.
Not a personal favorite, but a well written song. Really good arrangement. Interesting about the symphony. I never noticed that before. When the Beatles added strings, it was usually a smaller chamber group, not a large ensemble. Maybe that was what they didn't like. The string arrangement is still very good.and phil spector! BTW, what do you think of "the long and winding road?" it has long been one of my favorites. But sir paul said that it really killed the group when spector added the symphony without getting the OK. I really like the symphony on it..it gave the song more depth and was symbolic of the long, complex road IMHO.
and phil spector! BTW, what do you think of "the long and winding road?" it has long been one of my favorites. But sir paul said that it really killed the group when spector added the symphony without getting the OK. I really like the symphony on it..it gave the song more depth and was symbolic of the long, complex road IMHO.
George Martin's impact cannot be overstated.
I knew Phil S. had his hand in a few things on Let it Be but I didn't know that.
Funny thing is I don't like the symphony at all on that.
I've heard another version of that somewhere a long time ago that didn't include it. Rarities maybe?
Not a personal favorite, but a well written song. Really good arrangement. Interesting about the symphony. I never noticed that before. When the Beatles added strings, it was usually a smaller chamber group, not a large ensemble. Maybe that was what they didn't like. The string arrangement is still very good.
It may not be their best, but my personal favorite is She Said, She Said. The drum part is fantastic.
Oh I know. Peter fonda. Here I thought he could handle his lsd.yeah, that was phil. I went to wiki and looked up She Said, She Said. If you don't know the back story, pretty interesting.
Tangentially, I saw a post on Twitter this morning claiming that Aerosmith wrote "walk this way" after taking a break from recording to go to the theater and watch "Young Frankenstein". At one point, Igor (who has a hump and walked funny) tells Gene Wilder (I think it was Gene) to "walk this way"; meaning "come with me." Gene takes on the look of the hump and shuffles his feet. Igor looks at him like "WTF?" Its a funny scene. So Aerosmith watches the movie, goes back to the studio and writes their breakout hit "Walk this Way". Funny how life works.
Obviously composed and written by Paul McCartney's replacement after he died in a car crash.Yesterday is not so simple. It is one of very few pop/rock songs that are in the Jazz Real book.
Start with the arrangement. It begins with acoustic guitar and then a really interesting string arrangement enters in the 2nd verse. The string arrangement changes slightly throughout the song.
It has harmonic complexity - the chords don't follow one key, there are a number of subtle key shifts and also the use of 7th chords. Add in some bass line walk downs and a nice bridge. Top it off with a very graceful melody.
Not a personal favorite, but a well written song. Really good arrangement. Interesting about the symphony. I never noticed that before. When the Beatles added strings, it was usually a smaller chamber group, not a large ensemble. Maybe that was what they didn't like. The string arrangement is still very good.
It may not be their best, but my personal favorite is She Said, She Said. The drum part is fantastic.