Allentown M Call: The State of District 11 wrestling: Emotional boundary vs. nonboundary debate rage

[Conewago]

This is bound to generate intense debate.

https://www.mcall.com/sports/varsit...qR3D6v8xzCv5XJmnGZWVFPYoDLD52IesBa-RXaxmLfnc8

For now, all I have to say is:

1) I could not more strongly disagree with the coach who proposes a 4 class individual tournament. 2 classes are fine. And if we were to separate into private and public, I would hope to nonetheless keep the size of the tournament as small as possible so as not to dilute competition.

2) Though some reform could be necessary for this issue, my overall attitude is that PA high school wrestling is really not that "broke." And if something ain't broke, don't try to fix it. This goes back to any idea of expanding the number of classes.

3) For any District 11 natives, can you comment on to what extent boundary schools encouraged transfers back in the 1990s, etc, when Easton, Northampton, etc, were dominant?

4) As a member of the Catholic Church, I have never been happy to see Catholic schools worry more about recruiting sports stars than providing Catholic education. Therefore, I'm actually more inclined to sympathize with the boundary schools here........

 

[RD41]

I agree with Karam on the issue of girls wrestling. Pa should have been a leader in sanctioning girls wrestling, instead we lag behind.

 

[nitlion6]

This is bound to generate intense debate.

https://www.mcall.com/sports/varsit...qR3D6v8xzCv5XJmnGZWVFPYoDLD52IesBa-RXaxmLfnc8

For now, all I have to say is:

1) I could not more strongly disagree with the coach who proposes a 4 class individual tournament. 2 classes are fine. And if we were to separate into private and public, I would hope to nonetheless keep the size of the tournament as small as possible so as not to dilute competition.

2) Though some reform could be necessary for this issue, my overall attitude is that PA high school wrestling is really not that "broke." And if something ain't broke, don't try to fix it. This goes back to any idea of expanding the number of classes.

3) For any District 11 natives, can you comment on to what extent boundary schools encouraged transfers back in the 1990s, etc, when Easton, Northampton, etc, were dominant?

4) As a member of the Catholic Church, I have never been happy to see Catholic schools worry more about recruiting sports stars than providing Catholic education. Therefore, I'm actually more inclined to sympathize with the boundary schools here........

Since this post is memory based, I could be off just a bit. When Northampton was dominating I believe they had one state champ that wrestled for Northampton's junior high program.

 

[Cowbell Man]

I agree with Karam on the issue of girls wrestling. Pa should have been a leader in sanctioning girls wrestling, instead we lag behind.

Well.....if you expect PA to take a progressive stance on anything....

 

[nitlion6]

Well.....if you expect PA to take a progressive stance on anything....

Girls wrestling. Dang, you might bruise the sensitivities of the "we must judge you" religious groupings across the state.

 

[lookleft goright]

Girls wrestling. Dang, you might bruise the sensitivities of the "we must judge you" religious groupings across the state.

That would give condescending people a reason to display their superiority and moral outrage.

 

[DingerzForDaze]

This is bound to generate intense debate.

https://www.mcall.com/sports/varsit...qR3D6v8xzCv5XJmnGZWVFPYoDLD52IesBa-RXaxmLfnc8

For now, all I have to say is:

1) I could not more strongly disagree with the coach who proposes a 4 class individual tournament. 2 classes are fine. And if we were to separate into private and public, I would hope to nonetheless keep the size of the tournament as small as possible so as not to dilute competition.

2) Though some reform could be necessary for this issue, my overall attitude is that PA high school wrestling is really not that "broke." And if something ain't broke, don't try to fix it. This goes back to any idea of expanding the number of classes.

3) For any District 11 natives, can you comment on to what extent boundary schools encouraged transfers back in the 1990s, etc, when Easton, Northampton, etc, were dominant?

4) As a member of the Catholic Church, I have never been happy to see Catholic schools worry more about recruiting sports stars than providing Catholic education. Therefore, I'm actually more inclined to sympathize with the boundary schools here........

Team classifications ... whatever number is deemed appropriate (I could see it expanding to 3 or 4), but Catholic and other private schools are in their own class, separate from boundary schools.

Individual classifications ... there should only be 1. It doesn't matter if you come from a "AA" squad, a "AAA" squad, or a Catholic school that heavily recruits ... when it's 1-on-1, at which school you wrestle doesn't matter. Get rid of team scoring here, because this event is about the individual wrestler.

Girls wrestling should be sanctioned.

 

[jrd23psu]

I think AA and AAA is appropriate and I dig it. I think having any more classifications would dilute the state tournament which is legendary for how difficult it is.

 

[5q]

I lived on the Allentown / Bethlehem border in 2002-2009. Man those Easton , Nazareth , North Hampton and upper perk battles were great. It was like Easton , Nazareth and north Hampton had so many state champions and multiple ones at that time. 2-3 timers. Was ridiculous. Are all those kids now going to Beca ?

 

[Callthestall]

This is bound to generate intense debate.

https://www.mcall.com/sports/varsit...qR3D6v8xzCv5XJmnGZWVFPYoDLD52IesBa-RXaxmLfnc8

For now, all I have to say is:

1) I could not more strongly disagree with the coach who proposes a 4 class individual tournament. 2 classes are fine. And if we were to separate into private and public, I would hope to nonetheless keep the size of the tournament as small as possible so as not to dilute competition.

2) Though some reform could be necessary for this issue, my overall attitude is that PA high school wrestling is really not that "broke." And if something ain't broke, don't try to fix it. This goes back to any idea of expanding the number of classes.

3) For any District 11 natives, can you comment on to what extent boundary schools encouraged transfers back in the 1990s, etc, when Easton, Northampton, etc, were dominant?

4) As a member of the Catholic Church, I have never been happy to see Catholic schools worry more about recruiting sports stars than providing Catholic education. Therefore, I'm actually more inclined to sympathize with the boundary schools here........

Nothampton pulled some kids (Hards) in from Tamaqua and couple from Whitehall, and I think Fenstermarker was from Saucon.
Easton had an oddity when 2 years in a row Crivallero played football in fall for BECA and wrestled for Easton in winter. Easton, Wilson and Palisades had arguments about Williams Township. Matt Millens kid was part of that situation. Nazerth had a couple of kids that had roots to New Jersey ( Mike Miller?) but for most part didn't get crazy with transfers. They actually lost a couple of kids to prep. McMullen went to Wyoming Seminary.

 

[ptomaselli]

Nothampton pulled some kids (Hards) in from Tamaqua and couple from Whitehall, and I think Fenstermarker was from Saucon.
Easton had an oddity when 2 years in a row Crivallero played football in fall for BECA and wrestled for Easton in winter. Easton, Wilson and Palisades had arguments about Williams Township. Matt Millens kid was part of that situation. Nazerth had a couple of kids that had roots to New Jersey ( Mike Miller?) but for most part didn't get crazy with transfers. They actually lost a couple of kids to prep. McMullen went to Wyoming Seminary.

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