Amazon thinking of pulling out of HQ2 deal with NY
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Not surprising. Bezos also pulled out of his marriage vows.
is he going to send a dic pick to NYC?
Ture- but he has always paid his contractors
Honestly, I was hoping against hope that Pittsburgh would win out. It would've been a game changer for Western Pennsylvania.
Bezos just put HQ2 in the TRANSFER. PORTAL. 
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.Anyone in the NY market read the NY Post ?
Todays Headline relating to his battle with National Enquirer owner David Pecker ;
" Bezos Exposes Pecker" LMAO...
He always wanted the Va site from day one. The rest was a scam, including the number of potential jobs created. It was all just a way to get the best deal possible. Trump would be proud of him for playing the game so well.
The one good thing if they pull out of NYC is that some of those jobs will get spread around to other cities. 3000 here, 5000 there, maybe 2500 over there. That would be much better for all as it wouldn't such a large stress on infrastructure, local housing and labor markets.
Hoping that Pittsburgh picks up several thousand. A great site would be the GE nuclear research site near Cranberry that is being shut down. Highly possible since they already have a substantial workforce in Pittsburgh and all accounts say that those people love it here.
The one good thing if they pull out of NYC is that some of those jobs will get spread around to other cities. 3000 here, 5000 there, maybe 2500 over there. That would be much better for all as it wouldn't such a large stress on infrastructure, local housing and labor markets.
Hoping that Pittsburgh picks up several thousand. A great site would be the GE nuclear research site near Cranberry that is being shut down. Highly possible since they already have a substantial workforce in Pittsburgh and all accounts say that those people love it here.
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Regardless of incentives given by NY State it makes no sense to open a facility like this on Long Island. Everything on Long Island must pass through NYC to get there and that adds a tremendous expense to everything.
In case you didn't realize it, Long Island City, the proposed site of the Amazon facility, is a neighborhood in the Borough of Queens which is a part of New York City.
This is true. He also got lots of free publicity from all the local media in all the cities and used the leverage to get more favorable terms. Only the terminally naive believe that he didn't have a pretty good idea where he was going and needed a committee to help him decide.
Also, the fact is that Arlington (1.8% unemployment) and Long Island (3.0% unemployment) have close to full employment, so any new jobs will just increase the net population, add to congestion, taxes, COL and pollution, and stress the current infrastructure further. Many other areas need the jobs. But as usual, the rich get richer, except they will probably wind up poorer in quality of life for the average citizen.
The NY HQ2 was about talented people, but if it's a headache Amazon can simply move it to NJ.
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That's what I was thinking. Amazon already has lots of data on Newark. Also a diverse area
They could’ve changed the future of two cities, and improved the lives of the millions who live in those places. Instead they went two places that will barely notice, that their people don’t even want, and will change little for most. Such a missed opportunity for something great.
You probably haven't met many of the people who work in the higher levels of these companies.
The thought of visiting Alabama or working in Pittsburgh is a non-starter.
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Not sure you have visited Buffalo but that is certainly worse in climate than any part of NJ
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I’m sure Pittsburgh was considered. Wilke, the CEO of Amazon’s retail biz is from Pittsburgh and the CFO is also from PA. Both are Penn State fans (the CFO went to PSU). The reality is that Amazon needs access to a very big pool of young talent to continue to grow, which eliminates many urban ares like Pittsburgh.
I have a feeling that if Amazon had their HQ in Bizmark ND, they could get talented people to move there...
I have no idea what you are talking about and it appears neither do you. A shitload of stuff, for construction, for consumption, for anything you can imagine moves into, out of, across and through the areas you've mentioned on a daily basis. I'm sure Amazon has people that crunched the pertinent numbers.
FWIW, that wasn’t one of the sites that Amazon was considering when evaluating Pittsburgh’s original bid. They were considering the Civic Arena site downtown, the Almono site in Hazelwood, the Strip District, and a site out towards the airport, and the speculation during the site visits was that the company seemed most impressed with the Strip District near where Uber, Apple and Facebook have their Pittsburgh offices.
If Amazon were to increase their presence in Pittsburgh (which would likely mean moving from their current location on the South Side), I’d think they’d locate to another location in the city near the universities and the talent pool - and my guess would be the Strip District. It’s not the easiest sell in the world to recruit the kind of tech talent Amazon wants to relocate to Pittsburgh and work in Cranberry Township, an unwalkable exurb 20 miles outside of the city with almost no public transit infrastructure to speak of.
Not sure what you’re talking about passing things through NYC. Construction materials for the buildings? Employee commutes? These are corporate offices, not warehouses. They already have facilities in Elizabeth, NJ where the port is for those kinds of activities and jobs.
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They just opened a huge distribution center somewhere around Dayton, NJ, right along the turnpike
As far as LIC goes, there are a ton of new apartment buildings either being built or just recently built. Plenty of infrastructure to support these workers and their families.
They just opened a huge distribution center somewhere around Dayton, NJ, right along the turnpike
As far as LIC goes, there are a ton of new apartment buildings either being built or just recently built. Plenty of infrastructure to support these workers and their families.
Pittsburgh and 99% of the other cities on the list were never really in contention. The purpose of the bogus list was to (1) get a lot of free media PR nationwide and (2) gain negotiating leverage for tax payer dollar giveaways from the real targets, such as locations in the DC and NYC areas. The idea that Bezos was going to decide among hundreds of cities and needed a lot of help with the decision is ludicrous and shows how easy it is for big corporations to fool people. It worked. And good for some in NYC for finally coming to their senses.
Surely Ocasio-Cortez proposing 70% tax rates and being from the area wouldn't scare any businesses away.
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I suggested the Cranberry site if they were gonna put in a smaller working group, not the 25000. I think they may spread out that unit into multiple cities to avoid what happened in NYC. If they move the entire 25,000 as one unit then Cranberry wood be out.
When have you ever heard so much talk about a company opening a new location? That kind of thing is normally a local news story. I truly do not understand the hype over this.
