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Having seen a good friend of mine take on the government, I can say they rarely prosecute a case they don't feel very strong about winning a conviction. Just a thought as IMHO they would not have spent this kinda of money on surveillance and doing all the investigations, and now look to prosecute if they didn't feel they have a very strong case.
I have a good friend who is an attorney for DOJ. Their win rate (including plea deals) is absurd (like 98%)..
Hmm. Well, that's quite convoluted and interesting. So, the logical extension of this is that any time anyone knowingly commits an NCAA rules violation that could result in ineligibility, we have a federal crime? Excuse me, I just threw up in my mouth a little.In a nutshell, the parties charged are committing fraud against the school because they're knowingly making the player ineligible to compete at that school when they pay him money to go there or when the coaches take money to make players ineligible by setting them up with agents while they're in school. It's a federal crime because all the schools take federal grant money.
Edit: In other words, the school is defrauded because the individuals who are charged engaged in a scheme where the school spends money giving the player a scholarship without knowing that the defendants have made the player ineligible to compete.
Kentucky is a Nike school; Louisville is Adidas. All the allegations surrounding the Adidas execs involve them getting kids to go to Adidas schools.
In August, Louisville got a commitment late in the cycle from five star Brian Bowen and Pitino called it "the luckiest I've ever gotten." That's a separate allegation from the ones surrounding the Florida AAU coach.
Seems to me that Pitino has reason to be afraid .
I have a good friend who is an attorney for DOJ. Their win rate (including plea deals) is absurd (like 98%).
So this wouldn't have been released unless these guys were already cooked. It will be interesting to see how the NCAA responds to this and if/what they knew prior to the investigation.
I assume Pitino and the other head coaches whose teams are involved will plead ignorance. It will be 'rogue' assistants and adidas people.
Jim Donnan fought the law!! and he won!Having seen a good friend of mine take on the government, I can say they rarely prosecute a case they don't feel very strong about winning a conviction. Just a thought as IMHO they would not have spent this kinda of money on surveillance and doing all the investigations, and now look to prosecute if they didn't feel they have a very strong case.
Apparently, The Second Mile fell into the two (2)% category the DOJ wasn’t getting a convection.
Seems to me that Pitino has reason to be afraid .
Do the 98% go to a conviction oven?
Apparently, The Second Mile fell into the two (2)% category the DOJ wasn’t getting a convection.
They very well may, but that doesn't change Louisville being on probation already and being implicated in what may be the biggest affront to amateurism the NCAA is aware of.
It's very possible that Louisville was not only paying escorts for recruits, but also giving them money. I imagine this could get very ugly for them, they are at the NCAA's mercy.
If you're anywhere near Mark Emmert, be careful of his boner. His "Enforcement Committee" is now the DOJ.My guess is that the NCAA pleads ignorance but then tries to jump on the highest point of the pile by saying how outraged they are and how greatly 'cooperative' the Feds are being (as if this is somehow a joint investigation).
When questioned, the NCAA will say since the FBI has such great resources and subpoena power (that the little ole NCAA doesn't have), they could never get the proof on these big cases. Basically, the NCAA and Emmert will be totally excused for missing the major corruption right under their nose.
I assume Pitino and the other head coaches whose teams are involved will plead ignorance. It will be 'rogue' assistants and adidas people.
I can't think of a more upstanding group than the AAU underlings.I have to believe a little bit the tip of the iceberg, as how many of the underling AAU guys are going to give up all the names they worked with for amnesty.
I'd be interested to from what Francesa has to say about Pitino in regards to this.
The Coercive Cartel is so honorable, humble and self deprecating.My guess is that the NCAA pleads ignorance but then tries to jump on the highest point of the pile by saying how outraged they are and how greatly 'cooperative' the Feds are being (as if this is somehow a joint investigation).
When questioned, the NCAA will say since the FBI has such great resources and subpoena power (that the little ole NCAA doesn't have), they could never get the proof on these big cases. Basically, the NCAA and Emmert will be totally excused for missing the major corruption right under their nose.
I assume Pitino and the other head coaches whose teams are involved will plead ignorance. It will be 'rogue' assistants and adidas people.
Jim Donnan fought the law!! and he won!Having seen a good friend of mine take on the government, I can say they rarely prosecute a case they don't feel very strong about winning a conviction. Just a thought as IMHO they would not have spent this kinda of money on surveillance and doing all the investigations, and now look to prosecute if they didn't feel they have a very strong case.
Good point. I forgot Louisville was already on probation. I guess it will come down to how much the NCAA really wants to upset its money maker in March Madness.
I agree with this - they have a pretty high percentage of convictions after indictments - I have seen the DOJ in action and they just wear you down since they basically have unlimited resources.Having seen a good friend of mine take on the government, I can say they rarely prosecute a case they don't feel very strong about winning a conviction. Just a thought as IMHO they would not have spent this kinda of money on surveillance and doing all the investigations, and now look to prosecute if they didn't feel they have a very strong case.
Adidas does appear to have paid a Florida AAU coach affiliated with Adidas to steer a couple specific kids to Adidas schools - specifically, Louisville and Miami. Neither school is named, but the context makes it pretty easy to figure out.
Hmm. Well, that's quite convoluted and interesting. So, the logical extension of this is that any time anyone knowingly commits an NCAA rules violation that could result in ineligibility, we have a federal crime? Excuse me, I just threw up in my mouth a little.
Please tell me UNC is involved.Will be interesting to see if the whole AAU thing plays into this. Looks like Miami and Louisville will be involved as well.
Lonnie Walker from Reading. Yeah, Villanova was on him from the start. Also a PG they were recruiting who chose Miami.Hmm, Miami? They just got a big time recruit last year that was being recruited by Villanova for years and had offers from Arizona, Kentucky and Syracuse. All of the sudden, he chooses Miami.
And Calipari.Seems to me that Pitino has reason to be afraid .
Yeah, no question. Wow. Chuck Person, damn, you had it all, bro.It's Emanuel Richardson from Arizona, Lamont Evans from OK State (formerly of South Carolina), Tony Bland from USC, and Chuck Person from Auburn. And a bunch of guys from Adidas, including their Director of Global Marketing for basketball.
This is going to be a huge deal.
Yeah, doesn't take much imagination to see that much. Whew.I read recently on this board(possibly the recruiting thread), that some football recruits are now choosing schools based on Nike, Adidas, Under Armour, etc.
This could get very interesting.
While it's certainly good news, we'll need another 100 or so teams to go on probation to make the NCAA tournament.
Please tell me UNC is involved.
Looks like 2 guys who Nova lost out to at the end, Lonnie Walker and Jahvon Quinerly, may be implicated. Walker signed with Miami and Quinerly with Arizona.
These coaches look to be in deep trouble. FBI seems to have a great case. FBI agent infiltrated the group and was in on meetings about the deals and has audio recordings, wiretaps, etc. Evidence doesn't get much better than that. Gotta believe there a ton of college coaches hiring attorneys right now out of big time fear. This thing could really mushroom.