The two big revenue sports are football and Men's BB. Football just finished 9-4 and MBB is last in the BiG. Just think how much she would have made if football made the playoff and MBB was headed to the NCAA tournament.
Barbour - over $1 Million per year.
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Has Sandy even hired a coach at Penn state yet? The AD that brought Franklin and Cal was Joyner if I'm not mistaken. What has Sandy done to get a paycheck like this? Is she getting the big donations in from alumni? I must be missing something.
Wasn't Green also involved in the Kaidanov fiasco? How she remains employed......oh, never mind.
During Barbour’s tenure, Penn State has won five NCAA championships in women’s soccer, women’s volleyball and wrestling. In addition, the Nittany Lions have won 20 Big Ten championships and five EIVA titles in 12 different sports.
The most recent NCAA graduation rates study released last November showed that Penn State student athletes earned a Graduation Success Rate of 90 percent, tying the school record from the previous year. Eight teams earned a 100 percent GSR.
Penn State also launched a strategic planning process in Barbour’s first year, leading to the new Morgan Academic Center. A comprehensive master plan announced in 2017 provided a 20-year proposal for addressing the needs for all the university’s athletic facilities.
http://www.philly.com/archive/joe_juliano/
The most recent NCAA graduation rates study released last November showed that Penn State student athletes earned a Graduation Success Rate of 90 percent, tying the school record from the previous year. Eight teams earned a 100 percent GSR.
Penn State also launched a strategic planning process in Barbour’s first year, leading to the new Morgan Academic Center. A comprehensive master plan announced in 2017 provided a 20-year proposal for addressing the needs for all the university’s athletic facilities.
http://www.philly.com/archive/joe_juliano/
She checks off several boxes for the University. Hopefully the new deputy is the heir apparent. What has she done as AD? Nothing that I can recall. Joyner hired most of the star coaches... but she is safe if not effective. That’s all the machine wants. Top ten Athletic Dept raking in $$$ because of football.
Thank you, Penn State Department of Public Relations.
The table was already set. In 2012-2013 Penn State finished in 6th place in the NACDA's Directors Cup standings. In 2013-2014 they finished 5th. In the next four years since she took over they finished 8th twice, adequate but hardly progress.
The top men's sports are football and basketball - football has progressed for obvious reasons and basketball has regressed. The top women's sport, basketball, has become a disaster after three straight conference championships.
But I'm sure the 20-year proposal has a lot of glossy pictures and a nice cover and provides a generous administrative budget.
When she was hired everyone was lamenting about the future downfall of PSU’s graduation rates of its student athletes, but I’m sure you weren’t one of those folks. Now that it didn’t happen they criticize it a meaningless statistic, when in fact they were dead wrong. In fact our athletes’ academic success is outstanding. And quit the juvenile personal attacks when your wrong on an issue. It doesn’t help your election bid.Because of the delay in reporting..... none of the PSU “GSR” numbers would encompass Barbour’s years as PSU AD.
(I’d say “Of course, you know that”..... but you may be the one person stupid enough to NOT know that)
We do know, however, that in her tenure at Cal - academic performance and grad rates went in the shitter
(Of course, the entire NCAA GSR is complete and utter nonsense - a tailor-made talking/masturbation point for idiots like you)
“Launched” a strategic plan?
Is saying “I wanna’ build a whole lot of grossly overpriced shit that won’t do a damn bit of good for anyone” (but I haven’t the foggiest idea how to pay for it) = Launching a strategic plan?
Of course, Babs couldn’t even do that..... she needed to hire an expensive consultant to help locate her own abundant ass..... with 4 hands, a flashlight, and a map.
How much do they compensate you to fellate and lick these people?
Or do you just enjoy doing it gratis?
I don't think so. We were aware of her track record in that regard at Cal and critical of it. But I don't recall anyone anticipating a decline in graduation of athletes given PSU's historical emphasis on it.
Just love it when Barry is stumping for votes. He really knows how to work the people.
I will start the list of accomplishments
1. Sandy Barbour has never burnt toast in my kitchen. While I was there.
Who’s got next?
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2 basketball coaches....
I believe there are limits to what an employer can contribute based upon the makeup of salaries and employer contributions within the whole plan. Not sure of the details..... Sluggo above covered it!
Or Elizabeth Warren or another defender of the disadvantaged would step in to defend her and get her the money she "deserves"
And it's not just about getting time or a chance. Any competent manager that has watched the performance of both basketball teams can see that their performance is erratic, not consistent with the talent on hand, and that their coaches are both not competent in game management which results in consistent lapses in performance during long stretches of games that results in losses to less talented teams and losses in close games.
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I asked this exact question and I was accused of being a bigot... not sure where that troll went, but I just don't see any tangible thing she has done to warrant a 5 year contract extension, let alone one that came with a ridiculous raise. I'm still in shock and I just don't understand.
I don't know if the salary is deserved or not, but I would venture to guess that the Athletic Dept. was screwed up organizationally, with deadwood all over the place. Joe was around so long and I think a lot of the decisions were made by him. People are always criticizing her for hiring a bunch of assistants, but there may have been no choice except to hire your way out of a total mess. If you have ever been in such a situation, you know what I am talking about.
In my view, she's a C-/D+. How do I get there? Basically I start with a C, which I would for everyone. She's maintained department performance, athletic and academic, that she inherited. Where there is better on-field and/or in the classroom performance during her tenure, the foundation was established by a predecessor.
Facilities are a push. On the plus side, she has improved or taken steps to improve extant football facilities. save the most important one. On the other, her Master Plan is prolonged labor at best or an embarrassing, expensive abortion at worst.
Financial discipline has gone down the shitter as evidenced by the major increase in administrative costs of the Department. When I, and others, have raised this issue the retort is along the lines of "it's needed for PSU to catch up with the competition that has similar staff levels." Okay, but in my world when money, lots of it, is spent a result, a commensurate or better improvement is expected. Where is it? Deduct at least half a grade.
Can things improve? Of course and perceptibly quickly because there is lots to which we aren't privy. But in the immortal words of Ross Perot, "I'm all ears."
If the Athletic Department were in the dire straits you suggest one would expect to see a perceptible improvement in performance as a result of all of the hiring. Where is it?
It depends where the problem areas were. You might notice the improvement in areas you don't really think about, like the website, buying tickets, etc.
When you have deadwood that you can't/won't fire you put them on stuff that isn't going to sink the whole ship.
This is the kind of stuff that happens in a bureaucracy which is essentially what universities are
I am not saying that fixing this stuff means you deserve a million dollar salary. But it is not easy
It's a hypothetical but a reasonable one. Unless you think that the brain trust of Curley and Joyner left behind a great operation.
Gonna just guess that I have a lot more than you do.
So what was so "horribly broken" at PSU?
I wouldn’t evaluate Barbour relative to anyone else’s work, or relative to any other standards than “competency”.
As such, HER body of work is a complete and utter f^ck up. (Which - FWIW - should have come as a surprise to exactly no one .... no one who devoted even 1/20th of the power of a typical human brain to her historical ledger. Obviously
What else is relevant vav her work at PSU?
Fair enough but what has she been so totally incompetent with?
You can say she should have fired Chambers last year but that was a judgment call and many ADs would have kept him.
Are you trying to pull my chain?
No, I would honestly like to know. I am open to the idea that we have an incompetent AD. I am skeptical that she is worse than TC. because I don't think that is possible. But I honestly don't know what she has done that is so bad.
You are aware she counted loan money as revenue, right? I'm not aware of the previous 'incompetent' administration doing that.
No, like I said I do not know why people say she is incompetent but I am open to the possibility of it. I don't audit the AD's financial statements or have time to even look at them. I don't know any details about what you are saying. I don't remember hearing about it.
You could tell me she is too incompetent to get out of bed in the morning and I would still say it's a step up over TC, who may have been the textbook example of the Peter principle
Did Curley put his institution in hock for 100 years?
Did Curley fiddle while the graduation rates of his football and basketball teams went through the floor and became the laughingstock of the conference?
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Do not fvcking patronize me and answer the goddam questions.
Do not fvcking patronize me and answer the goddam questions.
Within an organization the more you pay someone the easier it is to control them. This BOT has taken the concept to extremes, and we know why.
This is true, but I think all we are seeing is a small example of the bubble of major college sports at its peak. It will crash spectacularly one day. The schools that avoid massive capital investments will live through it. The large annual salaries are weird but will be irrelevant in the long run. I hope that PSU never attempts the absurd $500 million renovation of Beaver Stadium. That is the one that will sink the ship
I'm not choosing ignorance on the subject. My opinion that TC was incompetent goes back more than 15 years and, in general, I only saw things that reaffirmed it.
Is SB incompetent? I don't know. Certainly she knew how to get herself paid. I'm not sure what I think about that. She hasn't made a big hire here yet. I'll probably form an opinion based on her hires
That's totally out of context, which is not surprising coming from this crowd. I said I didn't have time to review financial statements (meaning that I don't normally review PSU financials) and asked what are the details about the loan that was reported as income. I don't know anything about it. i tried searching for news about it, but there was none. Was that allowed or was it improper? If it was the latter it is a big red flag. If it was allowed, then I am not sure what we are talking about.
You gave me zero information other than a statement that a loan was reported as income. You didn't specify where this was reported or when. Link? Source? Are we all supposed to be CPAs who just pick up on that and run it all the way to the ground?
Just answer the question, man. Ironic.
Excuse me? I don't drink, weirdo. You won't answer because you don't have an answer. You have an awkward set of non-sequitur insults that don't even make sense.
Here is a question for you - has the operating reserve increased or decreased over the last five years?
