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Barkley just got screwed out of the All Pro team.

Didn't even make second team. Total BULL SHIT!!!

1st team Todd Gurley
G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD
14 14 256 1,251 4.9 36 17 59 580 9.8 56 4

2nd team Ezekiel Elliott
G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD
15 15 304 1,434 4.7 41 6 77 567 7.4 38T 3

Saquon Barkley
G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD
16 16 261 1,307 5.0 78T 11 91 721 7.9 57T 4
 
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Hard to argue Gurley, with his total number of td's. That being said, Barkley was more than comparable to Elliott. Better avg per rush, more receptions for more yards per, and more TDs.
 
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Hard to argue Gurley, with his total number of td's. That being said, Barkley was more than comparable to Elliott. Better avg per rush, more receptions for more yards per, and more TDs.
Agreed. They might have given it to Zeke simply because Dallas made the playoffs while the Giants are a dumpster fire. Similar to how in NCAAFB, in order to win the Heisman your team has to be winning.
 
I do think Barkley was deserving, but the numbers aren't disparate enough for me to be OUTRAGED! :eek: To me, the big difference is # of games: Barkley is the only one who played all 16 games, and did so behind a vastly inferior line.

Also interesting to see JJ Watt as 1st team edge rusher AND 2nd team interior lineman.
 
I do think Barkley was deserving, but the numbers aren't disparate enough for me to be OUTRAGED! :eek: To me, the big difference is # of games: Barkley is the only one who played all 16 games, and did so behind a vastly inferior line.

Also interesting to see JJ Watt as 1st team edge rusher AND 2nd team interior lineman.
Yeah, not nearly as ridiculous as if he ends up not getting the ROY award.
 
Yeah, not nearly as ridiculous as if he ends up not getting the ROY award.
I think Barkley is by far the best player in his draft class, but am guessing that Mayfield gets the ROY award. The Browns sucked so bad for so long that it makes his work look all the better by comparison. (Not to Barkley, but to what the Browns had before Mayfield.)
 
Also interesting to see JJ Watt as 1st team edge rusher AND 2nd team interior lineman.

The All-Pro list has officially become a joke like the Pro Bowl. I have no problem with Gurley and Elliot being the RBs. They use to have 2 RBs on 1st team now they have 1 RB, 2 WRs and 1 Flex. They have Tyreek Hil as 1st team Flex and 2nd team WR. How can you have Hill and Watt be on both 1st and 2nd team? The Flex position is either a RB or a WR in fantasy football so Tyreek Hill was already on the 1st team as a WR so someone else should have been listed as 2nd team WR with Jones.
 
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I think Barkley is by far the best player in his draft class, but am guessing that Mayfield gets the ROY award. The Browns sucked so bad for so long that it makes his work look all the better by comparison. (Not to Barkley, but to what the Browns had before Mayfield.)
People can spin it all they want, but when a rookie is one of the top 3 players in the league at his position and makes the Pro Bowl, he’s ROY. Mayfield’s not even in the top 15 at his position.
 
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Didn't even make second team. Total BULL SHIT!!!

1st team Todd Gurley
G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD
14 14 256 1,251 4.9 36 17 59 580 9.8 56 4

2nd team Ezekiel Elliott
G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD
15 15 304 1,434 4.7 41 6 77 567 7.4 38T 3

Saquon Barkley
G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD
16 16 261 1,307 5.0 78T 11 91 721 7.9 57T 4
They had better stats. What can you say. It is tough
 
Didn't even make second team. Total BULL SHIT!!!

1st team Todd Gurley
G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD
14 14 256 1,251 4.9 36 17 59 580 9.8 56 4

Saquon Barkley
G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD
16 16 261 1,307 5.0 78T 11 91 721 7.9 57T 4
They had better stats. What can you say. It is tough

How did Gurley have better stats, other than the TDs?
 
They had better stats. What can you say. It is tough
or at least comparable stats, some better some not as good. Wasn't absurd he didn't get named but is disappointing. It's a beauty contest and he'll get his. He's a rookie.
 
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Disappointing, yes, but certainly not shocking or surprising. Take off the blue and white glasses most of us wear most of the time and it’s hard to argue the pecking order of Gurley Elliott and Barkley. But to me it’s 1A 1B 1C, not 1 2 3. It’s close, damn close.
 
Too bad the Giants decided to sit Barkley for the 2nd half of the Eagles game for no apparent reason...o_O
 
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Rather remarkable that he was completely overlooked for Heisman, and now this. I realize there's some players with comparable stats but if you look at it in context, and how Barkley largely earned those yards without much of an OL, it seems clear.
 
Elliott had exactly one stat better than Saquon. Total rushing yards. Saquon was equal or better in every other category.
Barkley was the best all around back in the NFL this season. He’s the best receiving RB in the league and with a good OLine, he would be the best runner as well. But to get things like All Pro, he needs to continue to do it. If Barkley repeats these numbers next year, I bet he makes it.
 
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Didn't even make second team. Total BULL SHIT!!!

1st team Todd Gurley
G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD
14 14 256 1,251 4.9 36 17 59 580 9.8 56 4

2nd team Ezekiel Elliott
G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD
15 15 304 1,434 4.7 41 6 77 567 7.4 38T 3

Saquon Barkley
G GS Att Yds Avg Lng TD Rec Yds Avg Lng TD
16 16 261 1,307 5.0 78T 11 91 721 7.9 57T 4

Gurley fumbled 1 time (lost it). Zeke fumbled SIX times (lost 1). Barkley?

ZERO on the ground. 16 games, not once did the ball touch the ground.

Just sayin...
 
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Too bad the Giants decided to sit Barkley for the 2nd half of the Eagles game for no apparent reason...o_O

If they don't, he continues to run wild, they likely win, eagles likely not in the playoffs. But I'm sure their idiot of a coach had some really good reason why he sat SB (he clasimed it was because they liked to keep him rested... ooookkkk).
 
People can spin it all they want, but when a rookie is one of the top 3 players in the league at his position and makes the Pro Bowl, he’s ROY. Mayfield’s not even in the top 15 at his position.
Not true on Mayfield. He was easily in the the top ten while not starting the first, what, four games? Then he broke several rookie records.i do agree, however, Barkley should win over Mayfield
 
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His team made the playoffs. Huge missed stat.
Are you implying that if they had switched teams the Giants would have made the playoffs and the Cowboys wouldn’t? If you are, you’re a buffoon. If you aren’t, your “point” is irrelevant.
 
Not true on Mayfield. He was easily in the the top ten while not starting the first, what, four games? Then he broke several rookie records.i do agree, however, Barkley should win over Mayfield
He is not a top 10 QB. Even if his stats were top 10 (which they weren’t), I’m not talking about having a better year based on numbers, I’m talking about being better. Barkley is equal or better than the other top two RB’s and flat out better than every other RB in the league. That can’t be said about Mayfield in any way.
 
Not worried or angry at all. IMHO this is great motivation for Barkley 2019 version. The Giants need to sign top notch free agent OL talent and draft a QB.
 
People on this board are dumb.

The giants aren’t kicking a two time super bowl champ to the curb. Eli goes out on his time. Didn’t they fire a coach for sitting him a game?
 
Gurley fumbled 1 time (lost it). Zeke fumbled SIX times (lost 1). Barkley?

ZERO on the ground. 16 games, not once did the ball touch the ground.

Just sayin...

Gurley deserves it. He is the best RB in the league.

Barkley or Elliot is the issue.
 
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Not true on Mayfield. He was easily in the the top ten while not starting the first, what, four games? Then he broke several rookie records.i do agree, however, Barkley should win over Mayfield

Issue is going to be wins. Cleveland won zero last year and 7 unde Mayfield this year.
 
Issue is going to be wins. Cleveland won zero last year and 7 unde Mayfield this year.
Agreed, but that is not just mayfield. drives me nuts that the press wants to call the next game as "Rivers versus Brees". Browns added a kid that is going to be an all-pro corner and a RB who is going to the pro bowl in Chub. Not to mention the fact that they fired their coach and almost all of their success was with the interim coach.
 
Gurley deserves it. He is the best RB in the league.

Barkley or Elliot is the issue.
You are 100% correct... was just stating another fact (which, had I read up the board a bit, I'd have seen Midnighter already addressed). The thing with Zeke is he put it on the turf 6 times... regardless of whether they got it back 5 of them, everyone knows he can be made to cough it up. Not so with SB (hopefully that trend continues :)
 
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