He lauded the high education standards of the football team, that he prefers brain over brawn and then asked the audience why this so evident at Penn State. A loaded question, because as soon as he asked it you could hear murmurs throughout the packed room of "Joe" and "JoePa.". Put a smile on my face. Barron ignored the response of course and answered his own question by saying that Penn State recruits the best and brightest student athletes.
Barron spoke at yesterday's pep rally in Baltimore
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I try to avoid despising people I have never met, but Barron is one of the exceptions.
He said that with a straight face? I'll agree that PSU generally recruits great kids, but the "best and brightest?" That utterance reduced by a small degree the amount by which the man is full of shit, though I suspect it has already been amply replaced.
A truly smart person would never have said that, the way he did. He's an idiot.
He's perhaps not a dumbshit like our AD, but he's close.
He's perhaps not a dumbshit like our AD, but he's close.
I would have screamed bc of Joe. Why were there only murmurs. Probably why I'm not invited to these types of things.... I'll take it as a compliment
Oh, I think he's got her beat by a considerable margin.
Any reason why nobody and/or you just screamed JOEPA? Surely would have brought the house down.
I think at a function like that, people are reluctant to be the 1st one to act. I guess they fear they may be the only one, but if one or two shout out, it's easier for the rest and it can become a thunderous voice. You wonder what Barron's reaction would have been to dozens of alums, at full voice, shouting Joe's name.
If it's the event I am thinking of, there are no invitations. The alumni association has a pre-game pep rally before every road game that is open to anyone. They set up a tent in the parking lot. The tent opens three hours before kickoff, and the pep rally starts two hours prior. It ends about an hour before kickoff. They provide free snacks and non-alcoholic drinks.
Should have asked why he didn't do that at FSU. Or has he changed his opinion since then.
Or he has no clue what he was talking about. How's that Freeh review going for him.
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I kick myself now that I didnt shout out! The event was held in a large ballroom at the nearby Hilton. I did make some comments to my friends. ( we were near the stage) and a few functionaries (with name tags) turned and stared at me.
I wouldn't beat yourself up over it. It always toughest to be the 1st one to act. You were respectful, which is what most people would be, even if the speaker were unworthy. I have in my head what I would say if I ever met Barron, or one of the BOT members who fired Joe. I've gone over it dozens of times, but I honestly don't know if I had the opportunity, I would say what I've practiced, or just be polite.
And you paid attention to what he said? You must be a holdout, by this time most of us believe he has little worth listening to.
The only suitable pep rally would feature John Surma and his Ship of Fools buddies heads on stakes
Maybe Erickson began his pep talk by reminding them to "be civil."
If you were to speak your mind, barron likely would chase after you accusing you of ruining the university.
It would probably never dawn on a yutz like Barron that PSU's achievement is all the more notable because it recruits kids who have academic credentials that are similar to the majority of kids that most other schools recruit.
When roger williams spoke at these, you'd hear audible groans whenever he was introduced. He'd brush it off, do his canned speech and talk to the cronies with name tags on. They live in ivory towers, this is pretty much the only chance you have to nail these guys. Granted, 75% of the people at these pep rallies are 60+ and they are on the official bus tours that charge them at 400% markup for a "tailgate experience" and have no idea what is going on, but if you dis Barron and people start clapping, they'll clap along too, cause they're just used to giving money and clapping when other people do.
Since he likes brains over brawn, he must love our current OL. Maybe he did some recruiting on the side!!
Does anyone have any knowledge of how Barron is doing outside of the context of the Athletics? For example has he been able to raise research funding, attract top faculty, bring in donor funds for capital projects, increase the quality of student applicants, increase the number of scholarships and fellowships available to students, or minimize the increase in tuition rates?
Barron is the classic bloviating grandstander.
Just a couple examples:
- When a group of elected Trustees, along with - I believe - some members of the State Legislature...put their foot down and demanded no in-state tuition increase, Barron grandstanded as if it was HIS idea (rather than something that he had to be pressured into acquiescing to).
- When PSU dropped the application fee (down to $0) and began soliciting applications from students at in state high schools (which, obviously, increased the number of applications), Barron jumped in and trumpeted the increased applications as if it was some grand achievement on his part.
- When Barron's plan for "reducing the cost of earning a degree"......His "stay at UP over the summer, and we'll help you find a PT job" initiative (which - of course - if anyone did the math, they realized that it actually significantly INCREASED the cost of earning a degree) went over like a lead balloon, he co-opted (in a half-assed manner) the ideas of others. But still hasn't figured out how to implement them.
He's a dim-witted political fool. So much so, that he probably doesn't fully comprehend the degree to which he is being used as a well-paid toady.
Combine that with his disingenuousness (actually, screw that, call it what it is.....lying) and hypocritical BS.....and you have a real dandy University President.
Other than that....he's aces.
Barron is the classic bloviating grandstander.
Just a couple examples:
- When a group of elected Trustees, along with - I believe - some members of the State Legislature...put their foot down and demanded no in-state tuition increase, Barron grandstanded as if it was HIS idea (rather than something that he had to be pressured into acquiescing to).
- When PSU dropped the application fee (down to $0) and began soliciting applications from students at in state high schools (which, obviously, increased the number of applications), Barron jumped in and trumpeted the increased applications as if it was some grand achievement on his part.
- When Barron's plan for "reducing the cost of earning a degree"......His "stay at UP over the summer, and we'll help you find a PT job" initiative (which - of course - if anyone did the math, they realized that it actually significantly INCREASED the cost of earning a degree) went over like a lead balloon, he co-opted (in a half-assed manner) the ideas of others. But still hasn't figured out how to implement them.
He's a dim-witted political fool. So much so, that he probably doesn't fully comprehend the degree to which he is being used as a well-paid toady.
Combine that with his disingenuousness (actually, screw that, call it what it is.....lying) and hypocritical BS.....and you have a real dandy University President.
Other than that....he's aces.
Yeah, but Kim Jong Un has better suits...and a better haircut.
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In addition to some other things listed, he single handedly got the sanctions reduced.
I know they are trying to get more kids to graduate in 4 years instead of 5, so maybe the summer program is intended to help that along. That would be a bit cheaper for the parents IMHO. With online applications why not do away with the fee? They are cheap to process. It might also help attract students from lower income families. These both seem like reasonable initiatives. BTW all these silly photo comparisons just distract from intelligent discussions.Barron is the classic bloviating grandstander.
Just a couple examples:
- When a group of elected Trustees, along with - I believe - some members of the State Legislature...put their foot down and demanded no in-state tuition increase, Barron grandstanded as if it was HIS idea (rather than something that he had to be pressured into acquiescing to).
- When PSU dropped the application fee (down to $0) and began soliciting applications from students at in state high schools (which, obviously, increased the number of applications), Barron jumped in and trumpeted the increased applications as if it was some grand achievement on his part.
- When Barron's plan for "reducing the cost of earning a degree"......His "stay at UP over the summer, and we'll help you find a PT job" initiative (which - of course - if anyone did the math, they realized that it actually significantly INCREASED the cost of earning a degree) went over like a lead balloon, he co-opted (in a half-assed manner) the ideas of others. But still hasn't figured out how to implement them.
He's a dim-witted political fool. So much so, that he probably doesn't fully comprehend the degree to which he is being used as a well-paid toady.
Combine that with his disingenuousness (actually, screw that, call it what it is.....lying) and hypocritical BS.....and you have a real dandy University President.
Other than that....he's aces.
The BOT's favorite apologist emerges to defend his masters
Well ....if you want to have intelligent discussions....you might want to start with explaining how this makes a PSU degree LESS EXPENSIVE:
"I know they are trying to get more kids to graduate in 4 years instead of 5, so maybe the summer program is intended to help that along"
Take classes in the summer....when the cost per credit is HIGHER. And stay in State College over the summer....so the kid/parent is tagged with living expenses for an additional 4 months
Bottom line. Barron's "program" would have led to - at best - nothing more than paying for 5+ years worth of tuition over a four year span.
There are PLENTY of ways to actually REDUCE the cost of a PSU education.....but it would require someone who actually gave a damn about that....rather than simply wanting to "pose"...in order to affect those changes.
Kinda' hard to have an "intelligent" conversation with anyone who would parrot that inane propaganda. Even Kim Jong Barron had to give up that nonsense.
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I am all for:
"With online applications why not do away with the fee? They are cheap to process. It might also help attract students from lower income families"
What I am not "all for", is Barron's disingenuously posing that an increase in applications submitted was due to the wonderful work of Barron and the Cabal. The mutual masturbation society between Barron and the Scoundrels ...at every opportunity, including each BOT meeting.....is vomit-inducing.
If you think a key to being more inclusive towards "lower income families" is based on a $50 application fee.....as opposed to a $125,000+ tuition and fees expense to earn a BS degree....I don't think there are words to describe that level of obliviousness.
Well ....if you want to have intelligent discussions....you might want to start with explaining how this makes a PSU degree LESS EXPENSIVE:
"I know they are trying to get more kids to graduate in 4 years instead of 5, so maybe the summer program is intended to help that along"
Take classes in the summer....when the cost per credit is HIGHER. And stay in State College over the summer....so the kid/parent is tagged with living expenses for an additional 4 months
Bottom line. Barron's "program" would have led to - at best - nothing more than paying for 5+ years worth of tuition over a four year span.
There are PLENTY of ways to actually REDUCE the cost of a PSU education.....but it would require someone who actually gave a damn about that....rather than simply wanting to "pose"...in order to affect those changes.
Kinda' hard to have an "intelligent" conversation with anyone who would parrot that inane propaganda. Even Kim Jong Barron had to give up that nonsense.
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I am all for:
"With online applications why not do away with the fee? They are cheap to process. It might also help attract students from lower income families"
What I am not "all for", is Barron's disingenuously posing that an increase in applications submitted was due to the wonderful work of Barron and the Cabal. The mutual masturbation society between Barron and the Scoundrels ...at every opportunity, including each BOT meeting.....is vomit-inducing.
If you think a key to being more inclusive towards "lower income families" is based on a $50 application fee.....as opposed to a $125,000+ tuition and fees expense to earn a BS degree....I don't think there are words to describe that level of obliviousness.
Well they save an entire year of rent in State College vs the marginal costs of a 12 month lease instead of a 10 month lease, but the biggest factor which you overlooked is that the student begins full time employment a year sooner. A $50,000 per year accounting position in the 5th year does a lot to make the 4 year plan cheaper.Well ....if you want to have intelligent discussions....you might want to start with explaining how this makes a PSU degree LESS EXPENSIVE:
"I know they are trying to get more kids to graduate in 4 years instead of 5, so maybe the summer program is intended to help that along"
Take classes in the summer....when the cost per credit is HIGHER. And stay in State College over the summer....so the kid/parent is tagged with living expenses for an additional 4 months
Bottom line. Barron's "program" would have led to - at best - nothing more than paying for 5+ years worth of tuition over a four year span.
There are PLENTY of ways to actually REDUCE the cost of a PSU education.....but it would require someone who actually gave a damn about that....rather than simply wanting to "pose"...in order to affect those changes.
Kinda' hard to have an "intelligent" conversation with anyone who would parrot that inane propaganda. Even Kim Jong Barron had to give up that nonsense.
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I am all for:
"With online applications why not do away with the fee? They are cheap to process. It might also help attract students from lower income families"
What I am not "all for", is Barron's disingenuously posing that an increase in applications submitted was due to the wonderful work of Barron and the Cabal. The mutual masturbation society between Barron and the Scoundrels ...at every opportunity, including each BOT meeting.....is vomit-inducing.
If you think a key to being more inclusive towards "lower income families" is based on a $50 application fee.....as opposed to a $125,000+ tuition and fees expense to earn a BS degree....I don't think there are words to describe that level of obliviousness.
LOL.....enough.
There are dozens of ways to accomplish all of that....and a lot more.....and actually save the kids/parents a pile of dough.....but this Bozo and his ilk will never do it.
If this is the Bloviator's Grand Plan (and it was) he is clearly either an imbecile or he just doesn't care about anything but grandstanding (probably both).
