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BEST CITIES TO LIVE: Hypothetical, if you could move anywhere, where would you move?

Heads it's Vancouver, tails it's Copenhagen, if it lands on the edge it's Wilmerding.
Each of those two cities has a lot going for it. But Gawd you must hate sunshine. I think I'd be tempted to open my veins if I lived in a city that was overcast 300 days per year.
 
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You are correct about the taxes. No arguement there. Lucky for me, I bought a house here back in 78. Long before the housing prices got outrageous. Traded up to this house in 96. My daughter wanted to buy a house. Had to quit her good job and move 4 hours away to afford one. That is sad.
15 yrs ago my boss moved from Madison, Wisconsin to a job in San Jose. He told me his 3,400 Sq ft home in Madison was only 10 minutes from work and cost $340k. He said he could get a comparable home in San Jose for $1.5 million but his commute would be more than an hour.
 
Yes I have. I lived in Walnut Creek for a number of years. Lafayette is very nice too. I love all the towns/cities on the other side of the Oakland hills and surrounding Mount Diablo. Maybe Black Hawk should be on my list as well but I am not really into golf. John Madden used to live there or maybe he still does.

We lived in Benicia in the early 90s on the company dime. Even then it would have otherwise been beyond our financial reach. But it was, hands down, the best place we ever lived. I would rate many of the other towns in the San Francisco Bay area with similar regard -- if you have money. I remember doing wonderful century bike rides on Sunday mornings, pedaling my mountain bike up Mount Tamalpais and Mount Diablo, golf, yacht racing, day trips to the wine country and Marin County, trips to Yosemite, Lake Tahoe, Monterrey, the AT&T Golf Tournament, San Francisco for entertainment, and so on. All of the great National Parks of the West were within a reasonable drive for vacations. And we could do all of this while living in a walkable town. It had a small diner with fabulous food (call Mables). If I were retired with money, I'd go to an area like this for the shear variety of fabulous things to do. Don't know if living there is still as good. It seems the best places eventually become overcrowded and congested with traffic and pollution. There was a time when LA was the best place to go. That's why the entertainment industry wound up there.

This question of "best town" is top of the list for me right now. We intend to relocate (from Houston) now that my working days are over, but money is not unlimited. I'd consider PA if it were not for the cold, snowy winters and corruption. Right now our list includes the Smokey Mountains and surrounding area, the Ozark Mountains, or the Pacific Northwest. If my wife was OK with snow I'd be including Colorado, Wyoming, and Montana.

For those with the Desert Southwest on their radar, consider that populations have and are continuing to grow there with retirees and our friends from across the boarder, especially in Arizona. California is already overpopulated. Central Texas is now overpopulated. The entire region will soon have serious water resource problems. If the West gets hit with an unusual drought, massive populations will need to migrate in a short period of time. It will create the kind of anarchy that is not unprecedented in human history.
 
We lived in Benicia in the early 90s on the company dime. Even then it would have otherwise been beyond our financial reach. But it was, hands down, the best place we ever lived. I would rate many of the other towns in the San Francisco Bay area with similar regard -- if you have money. I remember doing wonderful century bike rides on Sunday mornings, pedaling my mountain bike up Mount Tamalpais and Mount Diablo, golf, yacht racing, day trips to the wine country and Marin County, trips to Yosemite, Lake Tahoe, Monterrey, the AT&T Golf Tournament, San Francisco for entertainment, and so on. All of the great National Parks of the West were within a reasonable drive for vacations. And we could do all of this while living in a walkable town. It had a small diner with fabulous food (call Mables). If I were retired with money, I'd go to an area like this for the shear variety of fabulous things to do. Don't know if living there is still as good. It seems the best places eventually become overcrowded and congested with traffic and pollution. There was a time when LA was the best place to go. That's why the entertainment industry wound up there.

This question of "best town" is top of the list for me right now. We intend to relocate (from Houston) now that my working days are over, but money is not unlimited. I'd consider PA if it were not for the cold, snowy winters and corruption. Right now our list includes the Smokey Mountains and surrounding area, the Ozark Mountains, or the Pacific Northwest. If my wife was OK with snow I'd be including Colorado, Wyoming, and Montana.

For those with the Desert Southwest on their radar, consider that populations have and are continuing to grow there with retirees and our friends from across the boarder, especially in Arizona. California is already overpopulated. Central Texas is now overpopulated. The entire region will soon have serious water resource problems. If the West gets hit with an unusual drought, massive populations will need to migrate in a short period of time. It will create the kind of anarchy that is not unprecedented in human history.
You need to consider two residences. A northerly "summer place" and a southerly "winter place".

You're clearly a wealthy ex-Chevroner....now the difficult decision is where to relocate.:)
 
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Ahhhh ... We're on the same page. I live in Boulder and have my eyes set on Aspen as my next and mybe final stop.
Have you ever spent any extended time in Aspen/Snowmass? It's not "you".

You are actually more "Telluridian". I know both locales very well.
 
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Steamboat is a Texas suburb
I typed Steamboat, but meant Snowmass.

In the end, it doesn't really matter....both can best be described as communities comprised of "shoebox condos stacked upon shoebox condos". Both are dumps as are most, if not all, of the I-70 corridor resorts.
 
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We lived in Benicia in the early 90s on the company dime. Even then it would have otherwise been beyond our financial reach. But it was, hands down, the best place we ever lived. I would rate many of the other towns in the San Francisco Bay area with similar regard -- if you have money. I remember doing wonderful century bike rides on Sunday mornings, pedaling my mountain bike up Mount Tamalpais and Mount Diablo, golf, yacht racing, day trips to the wine country and Marin County, trips to Yosemite, Lake Tahoe, Monterrey, the AT&T Golf Tournament, San Francisco for entertainment, and so on. All of the great National Parks of the West were within a reasonable drive for vacations. And we could do all of this while living in a walkable town. It had a small diner with fabulous food (call Mables). If I were retired with money, I'd go to an area like this for the shear variety of fabulous things to do. Don't know if living there is still as good. It seems the best places eventually become overcrowded and congested with traffic and pollution. There was a time when LA was the best place to go. That's why the entertainment industry wound up there.

This question of "best town" is top of the list for me right now. We intend to relocate (from Houston) now that my working days are over, but money is not unlimited. I'd consider PA if it were not for the cold, snowy winters and corruption. Right now our list includes the Smokey Mountains and surrounding area, the Ozark Mountains, or the Pacific Northwest. If my wife was OK with snow I'd be including Colorado, Wyoming, and Montana.

For those with the Desert Southwest on their radar, consider that populations have and are continuing to grow there with retirees and our friends from across the boarder, especially in Arizona. California is already overpopulated. Central Texas is now overpopulated. The entire region will soon have serious water resource problems. If the West gets hit with an unusual drought, massive populations will need to migrate in a short period of time. It will create the kind of anarchy that is not unprecedented in human history.
I think that water is by far the biggest issue in California. Go back and look at the climate history in California. There have been major droughts that have last for decades and one that last for about 200 years. The population growth exploded here in California starting in the mid/late 1960s. From the late 60s to the late 90s California was in a very wet period. A big El Nino in 82. Another in 98. As the population exploded water wasn't an issue. Since 2000 the climate has return more to the norm.
A dry arid climate. If this lasts for decades, we are in big trouble here.
 
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Have you ever spent any extended time in Aspen/Snowmass? It's not "you".

You are actually more "Telluridian". I know both locales very well.

Perhaps. I was down in Telluride for the first time this past summer -- been to Aspen many times -- and while I loved it and plan on spending much time there in the future, I found myself constantly comparing it to Aspen in my head. There are some thing that I like more a out both, but overall I still prefer aspen for a few reasons.

One thing is for sure though, I'm not moving to either - and especially Telluride - without my pilot's license.
 
Tokyo. Don't know what it is, but when I'm there I feel so alive. Being around that many people doesn't bother me the least bit which is weird because my wife always tells me that I need to live on a secluded island because I'm always complaining about how people drive.
 
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Perhaps. I was down in Telluride for the first time this past summer -- been to Aspen many times -- and while I loved it and plan on spending much time there in the future, I found myself constantly comparing it to Aspen in my head. There are some thing that I like more a out both, but overall I still prefer aspen for a few reasons.

One thing is for sure though, I'm not moving to either - and especially Telluride - without my pilot's license.
You need to go visit Mountain Village and the other neighborhoods above and outside of Telluride proper. As for that pilot's license, I advise leaving the flying into the T-Ride airport to others.

One of my favorite days in August is watching the Air Force Academy sending a squadron of various planes into Telluride to teach the young pilots how to land and take off from a short, difficult runway......twice, or even three times within the span of an hour.

A great way to spend an afternoon picnic in Aldosoro Ranch overlooking the airport.
 
Durango, Colorado
Flagstaff, AZ
Spokane, Washington
are all pretty nice. Probably would go with Durango if I were to move.
 
Can't believe no one mentioned Nashville...by far one of the best cities in America....great climate....world class healthcare...sports, culture, music, night life....affordability...no state income tax. $50 to $100 a year to register a car. It is an awesome place to live and work...and retire.
 
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Can't believe no one mentioned Nashville...by far one of the best cities in America....great climate....world class healthcare...sports, culture, music, night life....affordability...no state income tax. $50 to $100 a year to register a car. It is an awesome place to live and work...and retire.

Never been there besides driving through on one occasion, but I hear it is a really cool place to live. I live in the SF Bay area and can't wait to get out of here. Nashville is on my list though. Have a good friend who lives there.
 
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Yeah, it's implied. But, I didn't mean it that way.

Guess what I'm asking, regardless of your job, if it were available to move anywhere with your job, where would you move?

Overseas, Vienna has the most expats living there than any other city. Rome would be high for me. I hear wonderful things about living in Munich. And, Prague, too.

Domestically, I don't know. Boston, Chicago and New York seem like it's not possible unless you make BIG money.


I retired in 1998.....I'll move without the job, thank you!

AND

If my new job ever comes through (after the background checks Tom is obviously running on me), I'll give this further thought as you can be a Moderator from anywhere in the world!
 
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You need to go visit Mountain Village and the other neighborhoods above and outside of Telluride proper. As for that pilot's license, I advise leaving the flying into the T-Ride airport to others.

One of my favorite days in August is watching the Air Force Academy sending a squadron of various planes into Telluride to teach the young pilots how to land and take off from a short, difficult runway......twice, or even three times within the span of an hour.

A great way to spend an afternoon picnic in Aldosoro Ranch overlooking the airport.

Nah. Thanks, but I'll do the flying.
 
I live in NYC and couldn't really imagine living anywhere else. I obviously understand that it is not for everyone of course, but there have been a few places I would consider moving. I tried philly for a year and came running back!

1. Seattle. I loved it there. Good food, lots of opportunity and things to do. Decent architecture, clean, nice people, good beer. Thumbs up.
2. Rome. Same as above, only problem is distance from Family.

I have seen most major american cities most aren't for me. Spain and Germany are up next and I expect to see many places I would love to live in each.
 
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Never been there besides driving through on one occasion, but I hear it is a really cool place to live. I live in the SF Bay area and can't wait to get out of here. Nashville is on my list though. Have a good friend who lives there.
Let me know if you ever come for a visit...I can recommend some great places to visit and eat.
 
I live in NYC and couldn't really imagine living anywhere else. I obviously understand that it is not for everyone of course, but there have been a few places I would consider moving. I tried philly for a year and came running back!

1. Seattle. I loved it there. Good food, lots of opportunity and things to do. Decent architecture, clean, nice people, good beer. Thumbs up.
2. Rome. Same as above, only problem is distance from Family.

I have seen most major american cities most aren't for me. Spain and Germany are up next and I expect to see many places I would love to live in each.
Do you and wife like your new place? The last I remember you were working with a contractor on how to rip out the tile, level the subfloor and install something new.
 
I'm going to Nashville in early December so those recommendations would be appreciated!
 
Can't believe no one mentioned Nashville...by far one of the best cities in America....great climate....world class healthcare...sports, culture, music, night life....affordability...no state income tax. $50 to $100 a year to register a car. It is an awesome place to live and work...and retire.

We looked at the suburb towns to the east of Nashville where there is some water for recreation, but I was not impressed. Downtown living would be beyond our means and we are tired of big city traffic. Franklin would also be too expensive. Eastern Tennessee is more to our liking for recreation, though I think we'd need to be more careful about the specific location.
 
Yes I have. I lived in Walnut Creek for a number of years. Lafayette is very nice too. I love all the towns/cities on the other side of the Oakland hills and surrounding Mount Diablo. Maybe Black Hawk should be on my list as well but I am not really into golf. John Madden used to live there or maybe he still does.

You can live on Happy Valley Road....
 
Wife says Florence... for at least 1 year. I like Vienna and I'd like to give Montenegro a shot for a year or so. All that said, I'd rather not have to move a bunch later on, so I'll do a bit more research. [y'know, a part of me that talks with wine folks thinks that mendoza might be a good port of call.]

in the us, i wouldn't mind somewherte up the west coast but the CA taxes scare the spitt outta me.

btw, all of this means i'd see a lot less psu football, something i'm not pleased about.
 
San Francisco was always high on my list. I love the Italian history there. I love the mixture of the arts and sciences. I love that Spielberg, Coppola, Lucas and others specifically moved there to make movies. It's an intriguing city. It had it all, IMO.

But the costs have skyrocketed. I don't believe it's feasible anymore and it appears too crowded, now.

Second on my list was Austin Texas. But, downtown is simply too expensive, now. I've read and heard that Austin grew too fast; traffic has become horrendous; population has become too high.

So, I think I missed the opportunity to move to either of those two cities. That ship seemed to sail in the 90's.

So, where are the hidden gems? San Diego still feasible? Miami? My guess, their issues, too, keep people away.

Hmmm I would go.

Santa Fe, NM
Tuscon, AZ
Santa Barbra, CA
Fairfax, CA
Grand Junction, CO
Abiqui, NM
 
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