I'm going with Zain, because who knows how his career goes if he had the benefit to rs as a true freshman. We all know he should have won 3 Hodge trophy's also. Just my opinion.
I hear you. I feel like he would have scored if he had to - had that been called differently. But good point.
It isn't the NCAA that picks or runs the Hodge. WIN Magazine gets credit for the dumb assed move.
| NCs | Record | Bonus % | Hodge |
Zain | 3 | 126-3 | 75.4 | 2 |
Bo | 3 | 120-3 | 77.1 | 1 |
Nolf | 3 | 117-3 | 86.6 | 0 |
AB | 4 | 89-3 | 65.2 | 1 |
DT | 2 | 134-3 | 91.2 | 2 |
Ruth | 3 | 136-3 | 75.9 | 0 |
Cstar | 4 | 93-4 | 54.8 | 0 |
Not sure. The editor to the magazine is a friend of mine who lives in central PA. When a PSU kid wins the Hodge they send it to my friend's house and he delivers it to the PSU coaches to present at the banquet.
They used to have connections to Minny.
Wasn't WIN started by a guy named Mike Chapman? (or some similar name?) I think he was in pretty tight with Iowa when Gable was still coach.
I do have photographic proof it was in my possession.So are you saying you got the Hodge?
IDK, but following Gable assistant J Rob to Minny isn't a huge stretch. It's all part of the Midwest Mafia that thankfully Cael tore down.
I used the exact same criteria and determined Taylor was the winner. That, and none of the other guys on the list had to deal with Kyle Dake.
I think only a cage match can decide this question. Maybe toss in a dodgeball for good measure!
If Midwest Mafia means Midwest schools always winning the NCAA tournament, yes Cael certainly breeched that dam. It’s also interesting how some other Eastern schools like Cornell also started placing near the top at the same time.
I have changed my mind. I have it on very good authority that Cael has beaten every one of those GOATs in the room. Cael is the PSU GOAT
That was part of it. It was also about how the Oklahoma to Minnesota axis thought of themselves as the epicenter of wrestling in the US, even though a lot of their success came from recruiting the PA/NJ/NY/OH region.
If Carter goes undefeated this year it will be four straight years where he has gone undefeated in matches he actually wrestled. He officially has the two Medical forfeit losses from last season. Without those Medical forfeit losses he could have been only the second wrestler since Cael to have gone undefeated for four straight seasons. Also, without those Medical forfeit losses he could have been the only wrestler on the list with only two losses. With all of that said, I would probably still place Zain #1. I am not sure where I would place Carter on the list.
You just said what I've been trying to say but didn't know how! But.... But if this is true than I do believe (and it strains me to say) it has to go to Taylor he has 3 loses (nolf only has 1) one to bubba- Taylor was the better wrestler even that day just not those couple minutes, and dake twice, impressive. His bonus rate is way higher hints the hodges. I do believe Nolf got screwed on a couple of hodges too.
Such mental problems …. trying to figure out “the best”. We have choices. We are rich beyond belief. The roll call gets longer each year. I’ll be looking forward to this very same question in 2030.
IIRC, the only one close (or even controversial) was his match at NCAAs to Hayden Hidlay...
