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Tom
I'm getting ready for PIAAs, so I'm not going to be very good at coverage. I thank in advance anybody that can provide assistance.
Tom
141 Consolations: Moss vs. Jameson Oster (NW) ...
Oster has the 7 seed.
Need Moss to get on a roll here.
Per 1
Moss on a shot, but Oster get the TD on a counter, 0-2. Moss with the esc, 1-2, but Oster with 1:12 of RT. And that's how it ends.
Per 2
Moss starts on bottom. He gets the esc in 6 sec, 2-2. 1:18 of RT for Oster. Moss in on a single, but again Oster with the counter, and he gets the TD, 2-4. 1 min left. End of period. Oster with 2:20 of RT, so he's got a 3-point lead.
Per 3
Oster starts on bottom. He's out in 16 sec, 2-5. RT only cut to 2:04. Moss with the TD, 4-5. Oster with the esc, 4-6. And the period ends. With RT, it's a 4-7 defeat.
Disappointing showing by Moss.
Oster has the 7 seed.
Need Moss to get on a roll here.
Per 1
Moss on a shot, but Oster get the TD on a counter, 0-2. Moss with the esc, 1-2, but Oster with 1:12 of RT. And that's how it ends.
Per 2
Moss starts on bottom. He gets the esc in 6 sec, 2-2. 1:18 of RT for Oster. Moss in on a single, but again Oster with the counter, and he gets the TD, 2-4. 1 min left. End of period. Oster with 2:20 of RT, so he's got a 3-point lead.
Per 3
Oster starts on bottom. He's out in 16 sec, 2-5. RT only cut to 2:04. Moss with the TD, 4-5. Oster with the esc, 4-6. And the period ends. With RT, it's a 4-7 defeat.
Disappointing showing by Moss.
149 Consolations: Beitz vs. Trevor Moody (Indy) ...
Per 1
Beitz with the TD, 2-0. He locks up the cradle, and is getting swipes. He doesn't get the pin, but he gets 3 NF, 5-0. Moody with the esc, 5-1. Beitz in on another TD, 7-1. Period ends, and he has 2:07 of RT.
Per 2
Beitz starts on bottom. He hits a reversal 30 sec in, 9-1. Moody gets hit with 2nd stalling call (1st was in the 1st period), so 10-1. Beitz with 2 NF near the end of the period to make it 12-1. RT is clinched.
Per 3
Moody takes neutral. Beitz with the TD, 14-1. Moody with the esc, 14-2. Beitz with the TD, 16-2. Moody with the esc, 16-3. Beitz with another TD, 18-3, and that's a TF at the 6:29 mark!
Per 1
Beitz with the TD, 2-0. He locks up the cradle, and is getting swipes. He doesn't get the pin, but he gets 3 NF, 5-0. Moody with the esc, 5-1. Beitz in on another TD, 7-1. Period ends, and he has 2:07 of RT.
Per 2
Beitz starts on bottom. He hits a reversal 30 sec in, 9-1. Moody gets hit with 2nd stalling call (1st was in the 1st period), so 10-1. Beitz with 2 NF near the end of the period to make it 12-1. RT is clinched.
Per 3
Moody takes neutral. Beitz with the TD, 14-1. Moody with the esc, 14-2. Beitz with the TD, 16-2. Moody with the esc, 16-3. Beitz with another TD, 18-3, and that's a TF at the 6:29 mark!
157 Consolations: Frey vs. Lou Mascola (Maryland) ...
Per 1
Mascola with the TD, 0-2, after about 30 sec. Frey with the esc, 1-2, after getting ridden for over a minute. (Think it was 1:12 of RT.) That's how the period ends.
Per 2
Frey takes bottom. He escapes after 30 sec, 202. Mascola with 1:42 of RT. That's how the period ends.
Per 3
Mascola takes bottom. Mascola hits a reversal, 2-4. over a minute left. Mascola clinches RT. And that's how it ends. With RT, it's a 2-5 defeat.
Moss and Frey not having good tournaments.
Per 1
Mascola with the TD, 0-2, after about 30 sec. Frey with the esc, 1-2, after getting ridden for over a minute. (Think it was 1:12 of RT.) That's how the period ends.
Per 2
Frey takes bottom. He escapes after 30 sec, 202. Mascola with 1:42 of RT. That's how the period ends.
Per 3
Mascola takes bottom. Mascola hits a reversal, 2-4. over a minute left. Mascola clinches RT. And that's how it ends. With RT, it's a 2-5 defeat.
Moss and Frey not having good tournaments.
Re: 157 Consolations: Frey vs. Lou Mascola (Maryland) ...
With any luck, there will be very few holes in the lineup next year. (I agree with the redshirt decisions, just sayin')
It's not like we have anybody better at those weights.....well, yeah, there are those 2 redshirt guys, Zain and Nolf...
With any luck, there will be very few holes in the lineup next year. (I agree with the redshirt decisions, just sayin')
165 Consolation: Hammond vs. Garrett Sutton (Michigan) ...
Probably the last match I can do this evening, as the PIAA Class AAA Championships will start pretty soon.
Per 1
Sutton with a TD? It's being reviewed. About half-way thru the 1st period. This is a long review. No TD -- worth the wait. Sutton in late, but Hammond fights him off as the period ends.
I'm out -- switching to PIAA matches! Sorry
Probably the last match I can do this evening, as the PIAA Class AAA Championships will start pretty soon.
Per 1
Sutton with a TD? It's being reviewed. About half-way thru the 1st period. This is a long review. No TD -- worth the wait. Sutton in late, but Hammond fights him off as the period ends.
I'm out -- switching to PIAA matches! Sorry
Hammond loses 5-2
Sloppy match. Uninspired effort really. It looked like he never recovered from the defensive pin call that went against him the match before.
He's someone that I thought looked pretty good coming in to the tournament and that I thought would put in a good showing..
This post was edited on 3/7 7:12 PM by pabison
Sloppy match. Uninspired effort really. It looked like he never recovered from the defensive pin call that went against him the match before.
He's someone that I thought looked pretty good coming in to the tournament and that I thought would put in a good showing..
This post was edited on 3/7 7:12 PM by pabison
Re: Hammond loses 5-2
We hear about how rare it is to have a Ruth or Taylor, but after the showings by Moss and Frey, it's safe to say that Englishs or Pearsalls are just as rare, if not more so. And after that showing by Hammond, I hope Rasheed gets 165 tattooed on his forehead.
We hear about how rare it is to have a Ruth or Taylor, but after the showings by Moss and Frey, it's safe to say that Englishs or Pearsalls are just as rare, if not more so. And after that showing by Hammond, I hope Rasheed gets 165 tattooed on his forehead.
A pretty tough day. You gotta want it at the end of a match. We lost too many late leads for Cael to be happy about today's performance. Hopefully we will rebound.
His second over Schiller this year and the 2nd kick to his head by Schiller. Scott's probably sick of losing to
Penn State opponents. Quentin Wright pinned him at Nationals two years ago.
Nice wins by Jeva and Bobby Telford... who came up big in his match with Connor Medberry in SV. Makes for a very
exciting BIG Ten finish. Just like last year.
Re: Hammond loses 5-2
I didn't think Moss would go 0-3, but anyone who expected him to score more than a few team points for PSU was delusional.
Frey went 2-2, really about what most would realistically expect, though he's the new king of giving up reversals.
I thought Hammonds was probably the most disappointing, giving up the goofy self-fall and then showing nothing in his next match. Still, he went 2-2, not that far from reasonable expectations.
Bottom line IMO, the folks who thought PSU could compete to win another B1G tourney title this year had their expectations way out of whack.
WTF?? That's the craziest thing I've heard all day, and I've heard strange $hit today.
I didn't think Moss would go 0-3, but anyone who expected him to score more than a few team points for PSU was delusional.
Frey went 2-2, really about what most would realistically expect, though he's the new king of giving up reversals.
I thought Hammonds was probably the most disappointing, giving up the goofy self-fall and then showing nothing in his next match. Still, he went 2-2, not that far from reasonable expectations.
Bottom line IMO, the folks who thought PSU could compete to win another B1G tourney title this year had their expectations way out of whack.
Re: Hammond loses 5-2
Originally posted by BruceK-PSU83:
Originally posted by dsites52:
We hear about how rare it is to have a Ruth or Taylor, but after the showings by Moss and Frey, it's safe to say that Englishs or Pearsalls are just as rare, if not more so.
WTF?? That's the craziest thing I've heard all day, and I've heard strange $hit today.
I didn't think Moss would go 0-3, but anyone who expected him to score more than a few team points for PSU was delusional.
Frey went 2-2, really about what most would realistically expect, though he's the new king of giving up reversals.
I thought Hammonds was probably the most disappointing, giving up the goofy self-fall and then showing nothing in his next match. Still, he went 2-2, not that far from reasonable expectations.
Bottom line IMO, the folks who thought PSU could compete to win another B1G tourney title this year had their expectations way out of whack.
You didn't really explain why my statement was so crazy, you just recapped what happened. But if I'm right in what you're trying to infer, then it's my point exactly. Which was, English and Pearsall exceeded expectations. Moss and Frey, did not. Hammond, on the other hand, was disappointing in his consolation bout. I do think that most everyone on this board would agree, that all of the losses we suffered in session 2 came in a disappointing fashion.
Originally posted by BruceK-PSU83:
Originally posted by dsites52:
We hear about how rare it is to have a Ruth or Taylor, but after the showings by Moss and Frey, it's safe to say that Englishs or Pearsalls are just as rare, if not more so.
WTF?? That's the craziest thing I've heard all day, and I've heard strange $hit today.
I didn't think Moss would go 0-3, but anyone who expected him to score more than a few team points for PSU was delusional.
Frey went 2-2, really about what most would realistically expect, though he's the new king of giving up reversals.
I thought Hammonds was probably the most disappointing, giving up the goofy self-fall and then showing nothing in his next match. Still, he went 2-2, not that far from reasonable expectations.
Bottom line IMO, the folks who thought PSU could compete to win another B1G tourney title this year had their expectations way out of whack.
You didn't really explain why my statement was so crazy, you just recapped what happened. But if I'm right in what you're trying to infer, then it's my point exactly. Which was, English and Pearsall exceeded expectations. Moss and Frey, did not. Hammond, on the other hand, was disappointing in his consolation bout. I do think that most everyone on this board would agree, that all of the losses we suffered in session 2 came in a disappointing fashion.
Beitz is having a heck of a tournament and looks to have a pretty good shot at 3rd if he keeps that chip on his shoulder.
Losing these 1 or 2 pt decisions in the waning seconds is maddening.
Lets hope Jimmy Lawson wrestles like the Mongoose against Adam Coon. Bumping chests with a very large man is not a good plan, and didn't work (twice) against Telford. Lets hope he circles Coon and forces good angles for himself and bad ones for Coon.
Losing these 1 or 2 pt decisions in the waning seconds is maddening.
Lets hope Jimmy Lawson wrestles like the Mongoose against Adam Coon. Bumping chests with a very large man is not a good plan, and didn't work (twice) against Telford. Lets hope he circles Coon and forces good angles for himself and bad ones for Coon.
Anyone see the matches yesterday? I only saw posted updates on the matches. Seems like complete BS to me that Evans stalls for an entire match against Brown yet again and has ZERO stalls called on him, but Jimmy Conaway has multiple stalls called on him including what seems to be a BS stall call at the end of the 3rd period that tied his bout against the #2 seed after he had escaped in the 3rd period to take a 1-point lead. Anyone see that JC bout? Seems like the officials screwed JC with that absurdly quick call and was intent on bailing out his opponent.
The match you are referring to Bush is JG. I thought the stall call in the third was unwarranted. Taylor was basically digging for double underhooks as I recall and just bulled himself into JG. He did back off the mat but I didn't think that he should have been hit for that. The first call was on a kick out on the edge of the mat early in the first period. I'm not sure what you are supposed to do in that situation. That did not look like the same JG we have seen this year though. He appeared gassed at the end.
On the flip side, Delgado was allowed to do his normal backpedal routine for 2 1/2 periods until he gets nailed.
This post was edited on 3/8 11:47 AM by psualt
On the flip side, Delgado was allowed to do his normal backpedal routine for 2 1/2 periods until he gets nailed.
This post was edited on 3/8 11:47 AM by psualt
Yea, it was against #2 seed Taylor of Wisconsin, my bad on that....it was JimmyG. My point is that it is absurd how inconsistently stalling is called in this conference that a call like that can cost a wrestler the match, but there is ZERO calls on wrestlers who stall for their ENTIRE MATCH (e.g., Delgado, Evans, etc...), but zero stall calls. Complete bushleague BS and a total screwjob of JG to protect the #2 ranked wrestler and get them into the finals.
In other words, inconsistently and selectively making BS stall calls is EVEN WORSE then not calling it at all. The BT enforces stalling in a completely BS manner in which no stalling is called to benefit BS tactics (especially from Iowa wrestlers and non-PSU highly-ranked competitors such as Delgado), but then stalling is CONSISTENTLY and selectively called to bailout #2 Taylor and totally screw JimmyG -- it's a farging joke the way bouts are officiated in this conference (the PSU-Iowa match earlier this year being a classic example -- somehow multiple Iowa wrestlers such as Gilman were "bailed out" by the officials by not calling stalling (including fleeing the mat) despite the PSU wrestlers clearly deserving the benefit of multiple stall calls against their opponents lame tactics).
