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Big Ben with separated shoulder

Nittany123

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Ouch. No official word on availability for next week's game. I would guess highly unlikely. In that event season over for Steelers with Jones at QB.
 
It's a painful injury but I think he plays. He won't have full range of motion though.
 
Im not a Big Ben fan, but the dude is absurdly tough. If there is any way he can play, got to believe he will be playing. Indont think there is a qb in the NFL that is tougher than Ben.
 
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What's your source for this? Not calling you a liar, but he only had his MRI late morning today, and the Steelers are pretty tight with medical information during the playoffs. Is there a link?
 
What's your source for this? Not calling you a liar, but he only had his MRI late morning today, and the Steelers are pretty tight with medical information during the playoffs. Is there a link?
Front page of usatoday nfl section online.
 
Ok, that story was written before the result of the MRI. So he's speculating a bit, although the physical exam would certainly point the way.

Given that he went back in, hard to imagine that it's not Grade I or II. That would certainly stop you and I from playing contact sports for a while, but these guys are different. Have to wait and see.
 
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Ok, that story was written before the result of the MRI. So he's speculating a bit, although the physical exam would certainly point the way.

Given that he went back in, hard to imagine that it's not Grade I or II. That would certainly stop you and I from playing contact sports for a while, but these guys are different. Have to wait and see.
Even so, I would think his effectiveness will be significantly compromised. And with Denver knowing they have to rely on the run more, it doesn't look good. Add to that, not certain Brown can go.
 
I'm only following logic here. If anything pointed(X-rays and exam) to a more severe injury he would not have come back out of the locker room and no chance they would have let him play. If you watch the final drive he gets sacked and falls on that shoulder again. He got up and kept playing
I may be wrong but I think he plays next week and they keep all his throws short. Deangelo should be back next week too Steelers will lose to Denver but at least they beat the Bengals in the most heartbreaking way .
 
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Even so, I would think his effectiveness will be significantly compromised. And with Denver knowing they have to rely on the run more, it doesn't look good. Add to that, not certain Brown can go.

Yeah, he won't be anywhere near 100%, that is for sure. He won't be 100% until sometime in March.

Word on the street is that Brown is OK, but we'll see.
 
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I'm only following logic here. If anything pointed(X-rays and exam) to a more severe injury he would not have come back out of the locker room and no chance they would have let him play. If you watch the final drive he gets sacked and falls on that shoulder again. He got up and kept playing
I may be wrong but I think he plays next week and they keep all his throws short. Deangelo should be back next week too Steelers will lose to Denver but at least they beat the Bengals in the most heartbreaking way .
If the shoulder was separated, Ben would have come back without his pads on, and there is no way in hell he would have played.

In 1988 Major Harris separated his shoulder in the second series against ND in the Fiesta Bowl. He went into the locker room and never played the rest of the game.

Ben's shoulder is not separated.
 
If the shoulder was separated, Ben would have come back without his pads on, and there is no way in hell he would have played.

In 1988 Major Harris separated his shoulder in the second series against ND in the Fiesta Bowl. He went into the locker room and never played the rest of the game.

Ben's shoulder is not separated.

Actually, he could very easily have a Grade I separation and come back in, with limitations.
 
Actually, he could very easily have a Grade I separation and come back in, with limitations.

I think I agree with 21 Guns. I had a conversation with a sports trainer today, and his thoughts were AC Sprain. The only treatment for that is rest. Of course, we know Ben won't. I see lots of slants, a heavy dose of Deangelo, and Heath Miller being very involved.
 
I think I agree with 21 Guns. I had a conversation with a sports trainer today, and his thoughts were AC Sprain. The only treatment for that is rest. Of course, we know Ben won't. I see lots of slants, a heavy dose of Deangelo, and Heath Miller being very involved.

The difference between sprain and separation, in this case, is a matter of degree. It's essentially the same entity. I lean in the direction of sprain or Grade I separation myself. Thing is, I am positive he felt a whole lot worse today than he did yesterday, so pain control is a big issue here.
 
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I would put money on a broken collarbone. In which case they operate. Screw it together and he plays with the help of oxy, vicodine etc. but less than 100%.

IMO Ben is too tough for his own good. I love and admire him but he's not doing himself any favors in the long run.

I've broken both my collarbones and had both surgically repaired. There is absolutely no way he could play if it was broken.
 
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No chance it is a broken collarbone. Look at what happened to Romo both times when he broke his collarbone. You cannot throw a ball. I have broken my collarbone and there is no way in the world i could have lifted my arm above my waist
 
Ouch. No official word on availability for next week's game. I would guess highly unlikely. In that event season over for Steelers with Jones at QB.

The bigger ouch is that I went to bed in disgust with a 1:36 left to play......... Cincinnati fans and players are lousy (although I had Dalton help me win my fantasy league lol).
 
I have separated both shoulders, one on the IM fields playing IM football. That injury f-I got sucks/hurts. One slight notch below broken ribs. Depending upon grade he might be able to manage with some kind of numbing agent. He is ridiculously tough so we'll see
 
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I have separated both shoulders, one on the IM fields playing IM football. That injury f-I got sucks/hurts. One slight notch below broken ribs. Depending upon grade he might be able to manage with some kind of numbing agent. He is ridiculously tough so we'll see

Take this for WIW, I heard Big Ben was gingerly traveling the streets of Pittsburgh this morning on his HOG, "I going to finish what we started this year"...
 
If the shoulder was separated, Ben would have come back without his pads on, and there is no way in hell he would have played.

In 1988 Major Harris separated his shoulder in the second series against ND in the Fiesta Bowl. He went into the locker room and never played the rest of the game.

Ben's shoulder is not separated.


Not true. There are different degrees.
They shot him with a painkiller I'm sure. Look without going into detail I know someone who had a very similar injury and played. TIFWIW
Of course he won't be 100%.
BTW...an AC sprain and shoulder seperation are basically the same thing.
 
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Best news we could possibly get. Hopefully DeAngelo should be good too. The extra day sure helps all the starters coming off that very physical game, although 1 day will still have to be a traveling day. Don't think we have any players on roster with the "Ryan Clark" disease this time, so that's good news too. Sorry Sickle Cell is no joking matter, I know. Hopefully, we can repeat the magic of 10 years ago, when we beat them in playoffs in Denver on way to Super Bowl Victory.

Go Steelers!!!!
 
I have no idea how PG can say Brown is likely...how would they know? Even though he seems ok he has to pass a series of tests that are standardized to his neurological baseline exam pre-concussion.
I hope it's true but there is no way you can report this at this time.
 
CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports the Steelers are "optimistic" Ben Roethlisberger (shoulder) will play in the Divisional Round if he avoids setbacks this week. La Canfora says the Steelers will "take every precaution," holding Ben out of practice "probably until Thursday." La Canfora calls Roethlisberger's injury a "shoulder strain" in his right (throwing) arm. It's unclear how close to 100 percent Roethlisberger will be by the end of next week, but for now the Steelers at least aren't planning to have to start Landry Jones at Denver. Jan 10 - 10:16 PM
Source: Jason La Canf
 
I would put money on a broken collarbone. In which case they operate. Screw it together and he plays with the help of oxy, vicodine etc. but less than 100%.

IMO Ben is too tough for his own good. I love and admire him but he's not doing himself any favors in the long run.

Broken collarbone would have his arm immobilized, in a sling, QB hero or not. That's Simply physical mechanics. AC joint sprain , d1-2 is likely, and that's about pain tolerance. AC joint separation, if d2 or worse, generally means surgery, goodnight nurse for 6-8 weeks. I have a 3rd degree right AC joint separation that Suhey operated on in 2002. I missed two months of classes and had to do some continuations, couldn't even write or type.
 
Not true. There are different degrees.
They shot him with a painkiller I'm sure. Look without going into detail I know someone who had a very similar injury and played. TIFWIW
Of course he won't be 100%.
BTW...an AC sprain and shoulder seperation are basically the same thing.

No they are not. Your AC joint is separate from the ball and socket of your shoulder. It sits between shoulder and collarbone. With my 3rd degree AC Sep, my collarbone went from 0 degrees to about 75, pointing at my ear.
Separated shoulders involve a different joint entirely.
 
It's just wording. An AC sprain can be a separation of the AC joint. Yours was probably a third degree which involved the collarbone. Ben's is not.
 
By the way, Tony Romo had a separated shoulder: He missed ten games.

If the shoulder was separated, Ben would have come back without his pads on, and there is no way in hell he would have played.

In 1988 Major Harris separated his shoulder in the second series against ND in the Fiesta Bowl. He went into the locker room and never played the rest of the game.

Ben's shoulder is not separated.

There are different degrees of shoulder separation, not every injury is the same. Simply referencing two more severe injuries does not prove your point.
 
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