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Bill Belichick to UNC... Done deal.

UNC has a very manageable schedule next year other than Clemson--will be interesting to see what happens
I think it might take a year but he's going to dominate just based on name and NIL
He'll find money on top of what UNC already promised
 
pretty funny post on the state of college football
  • Indiana would be in the playoff
  • SMU would get the last playoff spot over Alabama
  • Boise State & Arizona State would have playoff byes
  • Ohio would try to make flag planting a felony
  • Nick Saban would be the funniest member of “College GameDay”
  • Scott Frost would return to UCF
  • Rich Rodriguez would be back at West Virginia
  • Bill Belichick would be coaching North Carolina
  • Florida State would go 2-10 b/c of a Dog Poop Curse
and we aren't done yet.
 
Difference between Franklin and Belichick. Belichick can have half the talent Franklin has and steamroll everybody and win a natty
Oh good lord….how did he do at Cleveland? Then he lost one player at NE and become an average coach….yet he’ll win a NC with half the talent. Wow, talk about a bad take.
 
Oh good lord….how did he do at Cleveland? Then he lost one player at NE and become an average coach….yet he’ll win a NC with half the talent. Wow, talk about a bad take.
He could be a disaster and set UNC back a decade
He could turn UNC into a prep school for the NFL that his son runs for decades
Risk > reward
Not a Pats fan but he's not getting enough respect or credit.
 
I don't see this UNC gig ending well for Bill. He seems like the prototypical NFL guy and not a college guy at all. In fact, does he have any college coaching experience? Even if he did it probably is in the 70's so that is irrelevant.

These high profile recruits and their families are going to expect him to cater to them and grovel to them and I don't see him doing that. He is just going to talk to them in that monotone voice and not excite them about the prospect of playing for UNC. He will need to have an excellent staff recruiting and he essentially stays out of it. Even at that I don't see it working.
 
Well, he's dating a cheerleader now so I guess he'll fit in just fine.
There is no one on the planet who knows more about coaching football than Bill Belicheck. He may or may not win 6 championships at this level like he did in the NFL but the fact that some of you want to discount his likelihood of success is amusing. He will be the biggest celebrity college coach since Joe Paterno. As Deion Sanders has proved, the name recognition of NFL success alone is enough to attract highly rated players. Belicheck won’t even have to recruit. He can assemble a competent staff to hit the road and let the top players come to him.
 
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I think that AD Bubba Cuningham and the UNC big money came up with a plan that makes a little sense. They realized that if they went after the latest, hotest MAC coach or a seasoned veterrn (Jimbo), they woul still be just Carolina. That's a middling program that will win 7 +- games each year and occssionally generate some excitement. Hiring BB comes with risk but a much higher upside that any other coach can bring. He will create a pro-type atmosphere focused on getting players to the NFL and that may appeal to many athletes.
This corporate structure may be visionary and BB may be introducing the next seismic change to college football. If he is an utter failure, the shrt term of the contract minimizes risk. It'll be an interesting few years at Chapel Hill, that's for sure.
 
I think that AD Bubba Cuningham and the UNC big money came up with a plan that makes a little sense. They realized that if they went after the latest, hotest MAC coach or a seasoned veterrn (Jimbo), they woul still be just Carolina. That's a middling program that will win 7 +- games each year and occssionally generate some excitement. Hiring BB comes with risk but a much higher upside that any other coach can bring. He will create a pro-type atmosphere focused on getting players to the NFL and that may appeal to many athletes.
This corporate structure may be visionary and BB may be introducing the next seismic change to college football. If he is an utter failure, the shrt term of the contract minimizes risk. It'll be an interesting few years at Chapel Hill, that's for sure.
Yeah, I'm not sure I get the negativity toward this move--they got Belichick who was supposed to be the top coach on the NFL market
Love him or hate him--kids will flock to play for him--doesn't mean it will work but they will
 
He could be a disaster and set UNC back a decade
He could turn UNC into a prep school for the NFL that his son runs for decades
Risk > reward
Not a Pats fan but he's not getting enough respect or credit.
No one knows how he will do. I’m not sure he has the right interpersonal makeup for college kids, but I do believe his plan/ approach that has been publicized so far makes sense considering NIL and the transfer portal. College football has essentially become a farm system for the NFL. It seems he will run NC like a pro team. He certainly knows how to prepare players for Pro ball.
 
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No one knows how he will do. I’m not sure he has the right interpersonal makeup for college kids, but I do believe his plan/ approach that has been publicized so far makes sense considering NIL and the transfer portal. College football has essentially become a farm system for the NFL. It seems he will run NC like a pro team. He certainly knows how to prepare players for Pro ball.
Agreed--it's going to be interesting to see how his personality plays into this BUT if you want to play in the NFL you better get use to guys like him. Very curious to see how it plays out--will either go great or be a disaster. But it's UNC so it's not like they're risking a great program
 
No one knows how he will do. I’m not sure he has the right interpersonal makeup for college kids, but I do believe his plan/ approach that has been publicized so far makes sense considering NIL and the transfer portal. College football has essentially become a farm system for the NFL. It seems he will run NC like a pro team. He certainly knows how to prepare players for Pro ball.
He was on Pat McAfee the other day talking about his plan. He was pretty clear that he is going to go down the "prime time" path that U of Colorado blazed. He wants to make NC a school that prepares kids to play in the NFL. Oh sure, there is the education part but that is the tool not the purpose. Apparently, he went to the NC selection committee with a 268-page plan. Part of it was that most college coaches are saddled with the pretense that college football is somehow about college education. That a college team unburdened with that pretense can make a lot of money for the school and help the kids prepare for a career in football (at whatever level they choose to participate).
 
He certainly knows how to prepare players for Pro ball.
While I definitely agree, the question that remains for me is will he be able to attract and retain the type of player that will listen and buy in to what he is 'selling'.

Or will his players perceive that there is an easier path to their ultimate objective, Perhaps enough NIL 'balm' will soothe the consequences of his gruff exterior and no-nonsense approach.
 
He was on Pat McAfee the other day talking about his plan. He was pretty clear that he is going to go down the "prime time" path that U of Colorado blazed. He wants to make NC a school that prepares kids to play in the NFL. Oh sure, there is the education part but that is the tool not the purpose. Apparently, he went to the NC selection committee with a 268-page plan. Part of it was that most college coaches are saddled with the pretense that college football is somehow about college education. That a college team unburdened with that pretense can make a lot of money for the school and help the kids prepare for a career in football (at whatever level they choose to participate).
The real flaw in that approach is that a small % of his roster will actually be pro material, what happens to those kids that don’t make it to the NFL and have no degree?
 
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The real flaw in that approach is that a small % of his roster will actually be pro material, what happens to those kids that don’t make it to the NFL and have no degree?
Same thing that happens now to a large percentage of kids that don't get a degree despite their opportunity. That's on them not the coach.
 
The real flaw in that approach is that a small % of his roster will actually be pro material, what happens to those kids that don’t make it to the NFL and have no degree?
yep. Like "Prime", not his problem.
 
Yeah, I'm not sure I get the negativity toward this move--they got Belichick who was supposed to be the top coach on the NFL market
Love him or hate him--kids will flock to play for him--doesn't mean it will work but they will
Kids flocking to play for him is a big assumption. Don't be so sure. Plus I'm not convinced he is not over the hill and the guy who will think circles around every other coach as some want to anoint him. This is not 2007 and having the GOAT at QB for the next decade. At the end of the day this is more style than substance in my opinion. We know the powers that be in college football and UNC is not one of them. Belichick does not change that.
 
Same thing that happens now to a large percentage of kids that don't get a degree despite their opportunity. That's on them not the coach.
Perhaps, but currently there are still some coaches who prioritize education and graduate most of their players. It will be a shame when such priorities no longer exist in college athletics. I am actually kind of surprised that NC has bought into this approach. I was under the impression that they were a strong academic institution.
 
Perhaps, but currently there are still some coaches who prioritize education and graduate most of their players. It will be a shame when such priorities no longer exist in college athletics. I am actually kind of surprised that NC has bought into this approach. I was under the impression that they were a strong academic institution.
Don't remember this?


The University of North Carolina academic-athletic scandal involved alleged fraud and academic dishonesty committed at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (UNC).[1] Following a lesser scandal that began in 2010 involving academic fraud and improper benefits with the university's football program, two hundred questionable classes offered by the university's African and Afro-American Studies department (commonly known as AFAM) came to light. As a result, the university was placed on probation by its accrediting agency.

An internal investigation by the university released in 2011 and another investigation commissioned by former North Carolina governor Jim Martin in 2012 found numerous academic and ethical issues with the AFAM department, including unauthorized grade changes and faculty signatures, a disproportionate number of independent study class offerings relative to other departments, and an over-representation of student-athletes enrolled in such classes. In 2014, a series of charges and counter-charges began between university officials and former learning specialist Mary Willingham, including disputes about statistics and methods of analysis by Willingham alleging that certain student-athletes were not academically qualified for college.[2] As a result of these revelations, the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools placed the university on probation for one year, endangering the university's regional accreditation. Losing accreditation would have resulted in the loss of any federal funding or support.
 
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Kids flocking to play for him is a big assumption. Don't be so sure. Plus I'm not convinced he is not over the hill and the guy who will think circles around every other coach as some want to anoint him. This is not 2007 and having the GOAT at QB for the next decade. At the end of the day this is more style than substance in my opinion. We know the powers that be in college football and UNC is not one of them. Belichick does not change that.
You're all putting too much into him having Brady--he's considered one of the greatest football coaches of all time and this isn't the era in which Bill Walsh went to Stanford--he can pay kids

UNC is a damn good location and if he makes it a training program instead of a FBS program watch out. Could fail but there's big upside here. UNC should never have been this bad for this long--they have a great recruiting area.

Kids already seemed thrilled about it but we'll see what happens. It's going to be the portal that he dominates IMO
 
Perhaps, but currently there are still some coaches who prioritize education and graduate most of their players. It will be a shame when such priorities no longer exist in college athletics. I am actually kind of surprised that NC has bought into this approach. I was under the impression that they were a strong academic institution.
Who are these coaches that prioritize it and still win enough to keep their job?
Let's not pretend Franklin puts education first
I think you're all overselling the academic part--graduating with a Communications degree for example is basically worthless. We're not talking about a bunch of future doctors, engineers, attorneys, etc. John Urschel and Myron Rolle are the exceptions
 
Perhaps, but currently there are still some coaches who prioritize education and graduate most of their players. It will be a shame when such priorities no longer exist in college athletics. I am actually kind of surprised that NC has bought into this approach. I was under the impression that they were a strong academic institution.
Universities can be strong academically and still have a football factory attitude. In fact which one are not? USC, Michigan, UCLA are all top academic institutions that have the same attitude as UNC. They would like to see their players graduate but the players are not student athletes. NIL and money are king. PSU is the same way but no where close to as highly rated academically as those schools. Sadly Joe's vision and plan is long gone and forgotten except by old loyal PSU supporters like me.
 
Same thing that happens now to a large percentage of kids that don't get a degree despite their opportunity. That's on them not the coach.
It’s *mostly* on the kids, but coaches can create an environment where earning a degree is valued and can do things to help their student-athletes succeed academically. Ethical coaches do this. I hope we never have a coach who doesn’t care whether his players finish their degrees. Someone like that belongs in the pros, IMO.
 
It’s *mostly* on the kids, but coaches can create an environment where earning a degree is valued and can do things to help their student-athletes succeed academically. Ethical coaches do this. I hope we never have a coach who doesn’t care whether his players finish their degrees. Someone like that belongs in the pros, IMO.
That's fair--personally, I don't believe Franklin cares at all. I think it's just a sales technique for him. But that may be unfair and I could be wrong. Never felt sincere to me.
 
Don't remember this?


The University of North Carolina academic-athletic scandal involved alleged fraud and academic dishonesty committed at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (UNC).[1] Following a lesser scandal that began in 2010 involving academic fraud and improper benefits with the university's football program, two hundred questionable classes offered by the university's African and Afro-American Studies department (commonly known as AFAM) came to light. As a result, the university was placed on probation by its accrediting agency.

An internal investigation by the university released in 2011 and another investigation commissioned by former North Carolina governor Jim Martin in 2012 found numerous academic and ethical issues with the AFAM department, including unauthorized grade changes and faculty signatures, a disproportionate number of independent study class offerings relative to other departments, and an over-representation of student-athletes enrolled in such classes. In 2014, a series of charges and counter-charges began between university officials and former learning specialist Mary Willingham, including disputes about statistics and methods of analysis by Willingham alleging that certain student-athletes were not academically qualified for college.[2] As a result of these revelations, the Southern Association of Colleges and Schools placed the university on probation for one year, endangering the university's regional accreditation. Losing accreditation would have resulted in the loss of any federal funding or support.
Yes, I did forget about this, I stand corrected.
 
Let’s not forget one thing, yes it’s Bill Belichick, but it’s also North Carolina…not exactly a college football blue blood. He may have some success, but not NC level success.
 
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