Bubba interview
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Good to see the dude isn't bitter
...I can't imagine why Call wasnt fond of him.
...I can't imagine why Call wasnt fond of him.
After getting Knocked out n 53 seconds of his last fight in Bellator…..Bubba is now fighting in the ABC.....which is the Absolute Championship Berkut. I had never heard of that organization until I looked it up. Bubba is 1-1 in that World Renowned MMA Organization …...so you decide if that is a good record
That interview makes me very sad. Especially sad for Bubba who I met and talked to on several occasions. He seems to have become a very bitter soul.
Saying he wants to fight the non-MMA guys Cael and Frank now is classless and ridiculous.
But I actually had grudging admiration for his post-NCAA-title interview. “Phenomena toy”, etc., was articulate and interesting. And I liked his reply to the question of how he beat David: he said “Luck.”
But I actually had grudging admiration for his post-NCAA-title interview. “Phenomena toy”, etc., was articulate and interesting. And I liked his reply to the question of how he beat David: he said “Luck.”
"Frank Molinaro ... is just not a good person. I like guys with character and with personality. He's just not that guy ..." says the guy who tanked classes to force a redshirt, then bragged about it in the papers. LOL.
Pretty obvious Bubba needs a better handler, someone who can either steer him away from such interviews or coach him on better answers Because grudges from 8 years ago make him relevant today exactly how?
BTW, original interviewer -- same Tony Reid from Shik back in the day?
Pretty obvious Bubba needs a better handler, someone who can either steer him away from such interviews or coach him on better answers Because grudges from 8 years ago make him relevant today exactly how?
BTW, original interviewer -- same Tony Reid from Shik back in the day?
Bubba got a raw deal when Sunderland pulled him out of redshirt his freshman year for no good reason however that's no excuse for some of the stuff he pulled at the end of his Penn State career. I'd much prefer to remember him for making his second place run his Sophomore year to help Penn State finish 3rd then for this nonsense. At this point he really should just move on because he was far from an innocent victim
Refresh my memory, but he did leave PSU on kind of a sour note, right? If so, and, only as an outside observer, it's not unreasonable to expect people to hold hard feelings, even many years later.
So, to think of him as a, "bitter old man" doesn't take into account how the parting may have affected him. People react to such things differently.
So, to think of him as a, "bitter old man" doesn't take into account how the parting may have affected him. People react to such things differently.
its not unreasonable to expect it. Frankly, i do expect it out of many-many people.
what does that have to do with calling it what it is/isnt on a partisan message board?
Also, I dont care about the other side because all we got at this point is Bubba. I dont see Cael or Frank or DT or any psu person bringing this up, EVER. No one cares then or now at psu. All the folks involved are waaaay past it and doing very well, except Bubba. Huh, why might that be?
Interspat though....a guy left for dead in MMA, lets interview him and see what we can go "in depth" about. Sagging subscriptions, clicks down, well lets start the BS and pick things up. While nothing is "in depth", its just stupid, shock value.
what does that have to do with calling it what it is/isnt on a partisan message board?
Also, I dont care about the other side because all we got at this point is Bubba. I dont see Cael or Frank or DT or any psu person bringing this up, EVER. No one cares then or now at psu. All the folks involved are waaaay past it and doing very well, except Bubba. Huh, why might that be?
Interspat though....a guy left for dead in MMA, lets interview him and see what we can go "in depth" about. Sagging subscriptions, clicks down, well lets start the BS and pick things up. While nothing is "in depth", its just stupid, shock value.
I could be wrong, as I don't remember the details as to why he left PSU, but probably because Jenkins was the only one edged out of the system. Obviously, Molinaro and Sanderson stayed, were not edged out and didn't have that sense of being slighted.
Again, I apologize if I'm demonstrated an idiotic memory of events but if they match at all with what I said, that's why only one party is coming off as bitter.
Bubba forced his way out. That may or may not have been his intent -- maybe he thought he could force First Year Coach Cael to do what he wanted -- but that was the result.
He wanted to shirt to nurse a back injury. But there was a roster crunch with Molinaro (149) and Taylor (157) each having 3+ years of eligibility and Bubba being a SR. He didn't get his way, and instead of making the most of it, chose to disrupt the culture Cael was trying to build. Balked at coaching, distracted teammates, missed weight at a tournament, etc.
(Note on missing weight: Bubba said he wanted to go 149, but he missed 157 at Mat Town. By NCAA rule he was then ineligible to wrestle 149 the rest of the year.)
He was also academically ineligible that fall and claimed it was intentional -- i.e., he tanked classes to force a shirt. (And, yes, said so publicly.)
After all of that, any coach worth his salt would've booted him.
Bitter and poor. Bubba is approaching 31-years-old and, according to this link, his disclosed career MMA earnings are $29,000. If accurate, we're talking a paltry $1,812/fight for an average of $4,142 per year (before taxes). I hope his wife has a good job.
I don't think Bubba got a raw deal as a frosh. He WANTED to wrestle and when Galloway transferred a spot opened at 157 and his first action was at the Virginia Duals in front of plenty of friends and family since he is from the Tidewater area.
I think if you ask most true freshmen, they will say they WANT to go. It's up to the coaches to manage these things and I really never saw any purpose in putting a 149 true freshman out at 157. Just seemed like a wasted year to me.
Competing thought: Joe took him down during the official visit, so maybe he needed to shirt right away.
Bubba was a problem in high school so I don't believe that PSU or Molinaro are the real issues, sadly it is his perspective on the world.
Bubba came back to the Richmond, Va area a few times for clinics, etc, after graduating. He's a good kid. Keep in mind, if someone took everything we said, analyzed it every which way, and then steamrolled perception publicly there wouldn't be anyone on the up and up...
It is a choice to hang onto the past. It is an attitude toward life. He has chosen the low road.
Yeah, until something from the past lingers in all of us, then we typically change our tunes in telling people to "just move on." We all have that point or issue where "moving on" will become difficult and far be it from me to tell someone what they should "move on" from, not having lived in their skin.
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To be fair, if we already don't like a guy, then his not making money is seen as a negative. But if we already like a guy, then his taking less money to pursue his passion would be seen as a positive. I'm sure some people we like also forego stable careers to chase athletic glory.
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Speaking for myself, it's more a case of me disliking MMA than me disliking Bubba (although admittedly I'm not a fan of him, either). Too many guys getting their brains bashed in for poverty level wages. But hey, this is America, people can do as they please.
I doubt it. Tony's clan spells their name Reed. Shik also had a Curt Reid who was a PIAA champ in '96.
Bubba got what he wanted, which was to redshirt for the 2009-10 season. Cael wanted him to wrestle 149 that season and Bubba made sure that wouldn't happen by first becoming academically ineligible for the fall semester on purpose. Then he missed weight for 157 at an Open tournament (forget which one) and wrestled 165 that day, which under the rules at the time meant he could not wrestle 149 that season. Why Bubba is so bitter about it is beyond me.
Helps to have a "kicker's mentality", it's healthier.
To be totally fair to Bubba, when we were ranking great matches of recent history,using Penn State victories as the bench mark, I can say he owns one of the greatest wins in NCAA finals.
When he caught Taylor and pinned him, it was not only shocking but historical. I would like to know prior to the pin how many matches DT had wrestled without being pinned.
Another great recent NCAA finals match that had a historical pin, was when Gadson tripped and pinned Kyle Snyder.
When he caught Taylor and pinned him, it was not only shocking but historical. I would like to know prior to the pin how many matches DT had wrestled without being pinned.
Another great recent NCAA finals match that had a historical pin, was when Gadson tripped and pinned Kyle Snyder.
Who knows other than Jenkins? My 53 years have told me one definitive thing in life: there's always at least two takes to a story, with all takes having a degree of relevancy to them.
Every match someone wins and another loses. The "collective" MMA record is 50/50. So yea its a good record. Considering relative competition it's not elite though.After getting Knocked out n 53 seconds of his last fight in Bellator…..Bubba is now fighting in the ABC.....which is the Absolute Championship Berkut. I had never heard of that organization until I looked it up. Bubba is 1-1 in that World Renowned MMA Organization …...so you decide if that is a good record
MMA is now more about the show than skill level. The guys commanding the largest paydays are the show and not necessarily the best fighters. I think this interview was for show. Bubba trying to stay relevant. Nothing wrong with that as its his job and hurts nobody else.
Notice how you didn't say Snyder was "caught". Neither was Taylor. Both were pinned and moved on to brighter days.
Not like it matters, but if MMA is anything like boxing, there are draws.
Interesting read. He certainly has a lot of hatred.
"Mr Bubba sets BWI straight!"
"Mr Bubba sets BWI straight!"
The Taylor "pin" still rankles me. The referee called a pin he was incapable of seeing from his position. There is no way he saw through Jenkins' head and Taylor's butt to determine if Taylor's left shoulder was down or not. Watch the video:
https://www.ncaa.com/video/wrestling/2012-02-27/2011-bubba-jenkins
It doesn't to my point. Still keeps the collective record 50/50 as there are as many wins as losses.
It certainly does when your first sentence is this: "Every match someone wins and another loses." I simply pointed out that if MMA is like boxing, there are also draws.
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