I know I posted about this a few other times. The Manville family are a super nice wrestling family. The kids wrestled a boat load of matches from the time they are 5 years old. They win at a high level at an early age as they get a lot of instruction, discipline and wrestle anywhere and anytime. They eat and sleep wrestling and move anywhere needed to get the best competition/instruction. Unfortunately, as they get older, other kids catch up physically and instruction wise. They are not really "plus plus" wrestlers at any one area ... except being crafty. Which, in and of itself, is not enough to be a B10 champion, let alone NCAAs. Great teammates