Certain student athletes now officailly considered employees according to the NLRB

[AWS1022]

Virtually impossible to write a contract that would tie a player to a school indefinitely (there's this little thing called the Thirteenth Amendment). Could get messy if there is no larger structure like a CBA or stipulations written into individual contracts (see: college coaches) governing separation. Eventually it would work itself out. Pro leagues mange to somehow survive.

But contracts do have non compete clauses to keep you from going to work for a nearby competitor.

 

[step.eng69]

And, of course, the players can go on strike if they feel they are being treated unfairly.

“James, do you think you will be able to resolve the labor dispute before kickoff against michigan?”

Honestly Bob, we will just have to sit back and see what unfolds this yr and next. As you and others have mentioned....traditional college football is going to be skewed for a while, if not forever.

 

[fastlax16]

Curious how this affects eligibility. If they’re employees can you legally limit them to 4 years of work before it’s so long?

 

[psu00]

And, of course, the players can go on strike if they feel they are being treated unfairly.

“James, do you think you will be able to resolve the labor dispute before kickoff against michigan?”

You beat me to it. I can’t wait until the first strike threatening the college football season. 🙄

 

[step.eng69]

Curious how this affects eligibility. If they’re employees can you legally limit them to 4 years of work before it’s so long?

Good Lord, the other day you and the other guy Aws were insisting I was talking "hypotheticals" when I posted that i would place $200 on either OSU or Flordia if they were playing my university last weekend or this weekend........

And now you're asking about an absurd issue of term limits for players....why don't you wait for a few yrs until a constitution of rules and regulations are developed. The answer to your question may be answered.

 

[psu00]

I think this will split the D1 into 2 general camps. There will be the SEC types who will go all in on bagmen/NIL and unionization into an NFL minor league. There will be many (most?) universities who will not be able to keep up under that path and either cancel or go to a club level sport.

Any lawyers here- does this ruling/ policy affect the Ivy League the same or are they treated differently since they do not give scholarships?

 

[fastlax16]

Good Lord, the other day you and the other guy Aws were insisting I was talking "hypotheticals" when I posted that i would place $200 on either OSU or Flordia if they were playing my university last weekend or this weekend........

And now you're asking about an absurd issue of term limits for players....why don't you wait for a few yrs until a constitution of rules and regulations are developed. The answer to your question may be answered.

The two topics are completely unrelated so maybe go back to bitching about how psu is too high at 4 when you think they should be all the way back at… checks notes… 6th. The horror… 2 whole spots.

I think we lose to osu in the shoe. But not because of what they’ve shown to date. I think they turn it around because they have time to fix their problems on D. They ones you ignore while bitching about our run game. If we played them this weekend I’d like us.

And “your university”, nice to meet you President Barron.seriously though who the f are you because you’re a ton of fun. Crotchety old f.

 

[AWS1022]

Good Lord, the other day you and the other guy Aws were insisting I was talking "hypotheticals" when I posted that i would place $200 on either OSU or Flordia if they were playing my university last weekend or this weekend........

And now you're asking about an absurd issue of term limits for players....why don't you wait for a few yrs until a constitution of rules and regulations are developed. The answer to your question may be answered.

You were talking hypotheticals, you were ranking PSU based on one game that hasn’t happened yet and one that won’t happen. What does that have to do with this topic?

 

[step.eng69]

and you can forget two way players...work classifications and all.

Can the “portal” be renamed as “The Union Hall-Out of Work List”?

 

[BobPSU92]

Can the “portal” be renamed as “The Union Hall-Out of Work List”?

So they will report to a room every day and get paid for doing crossword puzzles until they get the call to play?

With these unions, JoePa could never have switched a quarterback to linebacker. The union contract says he’s a quarterback. That’s it.

 

[Art]

But contracts do have non compete clauses to keep you from going to work for a nearby competitor.

Largely unenforceable and when they are, burden is on the ex-employer to prove damage and the courts set very narrow restrictions. They are also only enforceable at the stat, not Federal level. Kinda' like to see a school use one of these against a kid before he plays for another school or one who transfers to a school that doesn't have the original school on the schedule and the school is in another state.

 

[AWS1022]

Largely unenforceable and when they are, burden is on the ex-employer to prove damage and the courts set very narrow restrictions. They are also only enforceable at the stat, not Federal level. Kinda' like to see a school use one of these against a kid before he plays for another school or one who transfers to a school that doesn't have the original school on the schedule and the school is in another state.

They’re very enforceable in my business. I’ve seen many businesses lose a lot of money due to these clauses. Bottom line, I think athletes are only looking at the parts of being an employee that benefit them and not the parts that could work against them. I guess it depends on how much the universities want to push it.

 

[BobPSU92]

They’re very enforceable in my business. I’ve seen many businesses lose a lot of money due to these clauses. Bottom line, I think athletes are only looking at the parts of being an employee that benefit them and not the parts that could work against them. I guess it depends on how much the universities want to push it.

It’s a complicated, uncharted landscape, but I have complete confidence in Sandy to navigate it in a way that is mutually beneficial to Penn State and our student-athletes.

 

[Aardvark86]

probably at the school level since the school is the employer, which sets up a whole lot of issues. I wonder how Title IX is affected by this in the end? The losers of this are probably the star players as far as compensation is concerned. That being said, the big losers are going to be the kids who would have gotten scholarships if the current system remained in place. I suspect you will see a ton of schools (not the elite) abandon football at this level.

I think you're right, and that might well scuttle things here as a practical matter. While football players might think they can do a "football union at State U", I suspect the swimmers, field hockey players, and others might want a word. And given the reality that football funds everything else, and everything else is in fact legally necessary under title ix, the idea that the football players are going to suck on the football revenue teat until it's dry is probably a misplaced notion.

 

[DandyDonII]

I think you're right, and that might well scuttle things here as a practical matter. While football players might think they can do a "football union at State U", I suspect the swimmers, field hockey players, and others might want a word. And given the reality that football funds everything else, and everything else is in fact legally necessary under title ix, the idea that the football players are going to suck on the football revenue teat until it's dry is probably a misplaced notion.

Of course all of this is necessary on the Courts agreeing with the NLRB.....