Going ballistic during the game isn’t a good strategy for keeping players under control with their heads in the game.
CJF Presser going into detail on officiating… genius
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Smoke Monday is a safety. In a few years, he may have to change his name to Smoked Sunday.
I find it highly doubtful they had enough time to look through the previous play sequences to determine the down. More likely they looked at the down marker on the last play. They did find the error during the TV timeout, so they had some indication something was highly amiss.
Coaches can challenge for a reason. If you're that sure call the timeout and force the issue. I bet that became one of Franklin's teachable moments whether he mentioned it or not.
Pools birth name was James. His nickname was Bumper as a child . At age 16 he legally changed it to Bumper
We were in punt formation still, so the scrimmage kick rule still applies…however, the rule states that any player within a yard of the line of scrimmage can’t be over the snapper. The player over the snapper was a yard away from the line when we snapped it, so they were legal.
With all of the legitimate gripes we have from Saturday, I’m really surprised that Franklin addressed that play.
well, it wasn't a punt so there would be no penalty, right? I mean, you can't fake a pass and run the ball and then claim that the WR was interfered with.
This penalty applies whether you punt it or not. It’s based on if you’re in formation to punt it.
For gods sake, it was third down! There was absolutely no question it was third down. The only people that didn’t know it was third down were the idiots in stripes on the field and the jackass in the replay booth. You didn’t have to look at anything to know it was third down!
I’m aware, that’s why acknowleged CJF being a cool cucumber and a good communicator.
I’d add in the PA announcer that echoed the referee’s incorrect down signal, and the chain gang that also marked it incorrectly (though at the direction of the crew I’m sure).
i don't believe that, to be honest. Any time you had a short yardage situation you could line up that formation, snap it short, and have the deep guy (punter) push.
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That only adds to the annoyance of that guy...he sounds like a frigging ballroom dancing announcer.
Read the rule book then and you’ll see it…the punter must be at least 10 yards behind the line of scrimmage, and you can’t have anyone under center, so your strategy is easier said than done.
It was two plays…
Again what was Franklin supposed to say after he’s told replay confirmed the down? Say review it again?
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Check out the gigapixel photo. It was taken during the break immediately after the punt. You can see the official and another ref over by Franklin and Coach Stubbs. Franklin looks pissed. Stubbs looks like he’s amazed that they blew the call and the officials, well they look clueless.
I also can’t believe he didn’t mention the blatant false start that would have negated a 14-yard gain late in the game.
I also can’t believe he didn’t mention the blatant false start that would have negated a 14-yard gain late in the game.
I can see some teams in the future having computer tablets on the sidelines, and calling a timeout, and walking through the recorded sequence with the refs. That might take more than the alotted time available with a timeout, but I would consider it as an option to shame the officiating crew to f*cking just do their job.
Eldrick Woods appreciates your support.Yea I'd go by Smoke too.
Refs are never going to look at a tablet provided by one of the teams. They won't even look up at the big board.
Except when Ferentz wants an intentional grounding call before instant replay.
There was no official stoppage to review. Coaches get an official challenge because sometimes, even though every play is technically reviewed, the replay officials miss things. Sometimes they look at different aspects of a play than what the coach wants reviewed. That's why the coaches are given the mechanism to force a more thorough review.
So, regarding the throat-slash gesture, is that no longer illegal or was it missed or ignored by the officials?
I find it hard to believe someone in the replay booth doesn't have enough time to fast forward backwards on the live stream....which they should have access to. The bigger problem may be the comfort and effective use of available technology by the referees and replay staff.
Won't matter. The officials likely can only used designated and approved replay equipment to review calls. Otherwise we wouldn't end up with issues such as the "replay feed unavailable" situation in the OSU game a few years ago. That replay was readily available on the stadium video boards for all to plainly see.
Here, I think I have it covered: "After reviewing the rule book and having discussions with multiple members of the staff, our interpretation is that the linemen in fact cannot move in advance of the snap. Again, we talked this over in detail to make sure we have it right, and to make sure we're coaching our players correctly, and that's the position we've arrived at."
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