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Close call at midway airport

PAstr

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Just prior to touchdown, a Southwest jet needed to execute a go around due to a challenger jet crossing their landing runway downfield.
The video sure looks like they were awfully close.
 
I want to hear the tapes…….the business jet had just switche from ground control to tower control……sometimes the two are not coordinated……nevertheless, Southwest did a great job.
 
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These things do, in fact, happen everyday. Now, everyone has a camera, so they’re being reported. This one at Midway, however, was closer than most days. US procedures need to change.
 
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My guess is that incidents like the ones that we've seen the past month all of a sudden just didn't start happening. With that in mind, it's amazing that until the DC tragedy in January, there had not been a major airplane crash since the Buffalo one in 2009.
This one is egregious. It was close and could have cost 150 or more lives. We'll see if the pilot took corrective action or the tower saw it at the last moment but this one is BAD. So was Washington but that had unique circumstances with the military blackhawk practicing their night goggles. The others have been private so that is a different story. The ones that have to stop due to an aircraft problem happen most every day.
 
In this instance, the Southwest crew executed the missed approach on their own. The tower controller was oblivious. My question is what instructions were issued to the business jet by the ground controller prior to switching to the tower frequency?
 
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In this instance, the Southwest crew executed the missed approach on their own. The tower controller was oblivious. My question is what instructions were issued to the business jet by the ground controller prior to switching to the tower frequency?
Agreed. Did he get bad instructions from the tower or did he get good instructions and not follow them?
 
This one is egregious. It was close and could have cost 150 or more lives. We'll see if the pilot took corrective action or the tower saw it at the last moment but this one is BAD. So was Washington but that had unique circumstances with the military blackhawk practicing their night goggles. The others have been private so that is a different story. The ones that have to stop due to an aircraft problem happen most every day.

My best friend is an ATC in Chicago (not at the midway tower).

Paraphrasing what he said to me: the pilot of the corporate jet read back instructions to hold short of the runway the SW flight was landing on and crossed anyway. That pilot also had clear visual conditions and obviously did not look before crossing the runway (which they are trained to do even with clearance to cross) because he would have been able to see the plane on approach. Both the tower and SW flight crew deserve credit for avoiding the disaster.
 
My best friend is an ATC in Chicago (not at the midway tower).

Paraphrasing what he said to me: the pilot of the corporate jet read back instructions to hold short of the runway the SW flight was landing on and crossed anyway. That pilot also had clear visual conditions and obviously did not look before crossing the runway (which they are trained to do even with clearance to cross) because he would have been able to see the plane on approach. Both the tower and SW flight crew deserve credit for avoiding the disaster.
Pull that guy's license.
 
Agreed. Did he get bad instructions from the tower or did he get good instructions and not follow them?
From what I heard, instructions were given and repeated twice. Business pilot got them wrong so they were repeated a second time. He got them right the second time but then did not follow what they said. He was told to stop before the main runway but went across it in front of the landing jet. All on that pilot IMO. I'd guess he's not piloting a jet today.
 
From what I heard, instructions were given and repeated twice. Business pilot got them wrong so they were repeated a second time. He got them right the second time but then did not follow what they said. He was told to stop before the main runway but went across it in front of the landing jet. All on that pilot IMO. I'd guess he's not piloting a jet today.
And FlexJet is feeling some heat.
 
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BTW…..another near miss/go around in DC this week. Reagan, IIRC
I saw that. From my point of view, not that unusual. I've been on several flights that had to go around. So I wonder if this is due to heightened sensitivity right now. Other will know better than me but they try to maintain a minimum distance between planes. I was on a flight once and the pilot started doing S turns to lower the distance between our flight and the one landing before ours to maintain a proper distancing.
 
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