Colorado with Sanders

[LandoComando]

Deion lands No. 1 CB as McClain flips to Colorado

Cormani McClain, a five-star cornerback and the No. 4 overall prospect in his class, announced he has flipped from Miami to Colorado, giving coach Deion Sanders his first five-star prospect as Buffaloes coach.

www.espn.com

Curious to see how long he stays at Colorado especially if they win right away.

 

[Ian]

He’ll flame out in yr three. His act won’t mix well in Boulder. He’s got what 24 transfers coming in.

 

[LandoComando]

He’ll flame out in yr three. His act won’t mix well in Boulder. He’s got what 24 transfers coming in.

Maybe--I'm torn on if it will be a disaster or he'll dominate the Pac XII in 2024.

 

[NITTANYJGK]

Personally, I'm not a fan of Sanders. I never liked Hot dogs. I'm waiting for him to fail and end this love affair from the people hyping him.

 

[sss]

The win total for him next year is 4.5. That does not bode well for a year 1 turnaround. The schedule does him no favors. He better hope his son is as good as he thinks he is or it might get a little ugly. Many coaches have found it to be alittle tougher with the big boys when you don't have better talent than your competition.

 

[LandoComando]

The win total for him next year is 4.5. That does not bode well for a year 1 turnaround. The schedule does him no favors. He better hope his son is as good as he thinks he is or it might get a little ugly. Many coaches have found it to be alittle tougher with the big boys when you don't have better talent than your competition.

Agreed on all accounts. I do give Colorado credit for scheduling TCU and Nebraska. Wish more teams did that. Colorado State is their only non-P5 game. 2024 is the year they could be solid but, like you said, the expectation by him and others is success year 1.

 

[87 Penn St8]

Personally, I'm not a fan of Sanders. I never liked Hot dogs. I'm waiting for him to fail and end this love affair from the people hyping him.

I had heard folks rave about the Manning Brothers MNFootball alternate show. During the Bengal vs Raven game I saw that ESPN had that option over the ABC play by play.

Deion was their guest...as much as the Mannings are overcommercized, the combo with Coach Prime was unwatchable. I lasted 5 minutes.

As much as I loved visiting Boulder as a younger man (my PSU sophomore year roommate moved out to Longmont in the late 80s and never left,) I simply cannot root for them with him at the helm.

Strange bed partners for sure, but they picked each other....Rough, Tough, and in the Buff! (borrowed from an old CU tshirt)

 

[LMTLION]

Personally, I'm not a fan of Sanders. I never liked Hot dogs. I'm waiting for him to fail and end this love affair from the people hyping him.

I do not care for Sanders but his success at Jackson State was undeniable. I am not sure he will fail at Colorado.

 

[LandoComando]

I had heard folks rave about the Manning Brothers MNFootball alternate show. During the Bengal vs Raven game I saw that ESPN had that option over the ABC play by play.

Deion was their guest...as much as the Mannings are overcommercized, the combo with Coach Prime was unwatchable. I lasted 5 minutes.

As much as I loved visiting Boulder as a younger man (my PSU sophomore year roommate moved out to Longmont in the late 80s and never left,) I simply cannot root for them with him at the helm.

Strange bed partners for sure, but they picked each other....Rough, Tough, and in the Buff! (borrowed from an old CU tshirt)

To be fair, their segment/alternate view isn't targeting you or even me as their audience. They're focused on people under 30.

 

[lazydave841]

I do give Colorado credit for scheduling TCU and Nebraska.

Nebraska is like scheduling West Virginia, but with better history. Near the bottom of the conference recently. Might be on the upside for the Buffs, but generally it's a "traditional rival" that less than 5% of the CFB audience cares about.

Deion is riding a lot on his son. Who else do they have at QB?

 

[wilbury]

Maybe his son will do a little better with higher quality talent around him but he wasn't very impressive last year the few times that I watched him. Prime could do well in the PAC 12. We were the third best team in the Big Ten and we dominated their champion so the overall level of play is pretty low especially with USC and UCLA leaving.

He's generating a lot of buzz and will be able to attract talent but he's still an unproven entity. Can he actually coach? That's yet to be seen.

 

[87 Penn St8]

Nebraska is like scheduling West Virginia, but with better history. Near the bottom of the conference recently. Might be on the upside for the Buffs, but generally it's a "traditional rival" that less than 5% of the CFB audience cares about.

Deion is riding a lot on his son. Who else do they have at QB?

Buffs vs. Nebraska was the standard Friday after Thanksgiving afternoon game- therefore many of us likely watched even if we didn't care much. I miss rivalry football where I actually know many people who went to our competitors (Pitt/Cuse/WVU/BC even ND /UVA). Rutgers and Maryland count but were always afterthoughts. Looking forward to being at Beaver Stadium vs. WVU.....What's a Hoopie? : )

 

[lazydave841]

Buffs vs. Nebraska

I'm mostly curious why LC credits the Buffs for scheduling the game while Penn State gets zero credit for playing a Big 10 schedule. It's an inconsistency.

I feel like, based on his other writings, that it's a wait and see thing. Nebraska sucked horrible last year. WVU was mildly better in a conference he claimed was better top to bottom. He's pissed all over our OOC game, but praises the Buffs for scheduling an even weaker Nebraska.

I'm sure his logic will be "Colorado sucks, nobody expects much from them"...

 

[bison13]

Wonder who is going to teach these 5 star DB's to tackle? I would run power all day against CU. Make his prima donna athletes muck it up and try to tackle all game.

 

[Lion84]

I do think what he did to current players and recruits was pretty sh&tty - basically find a new place to play your done here. I know all schools including PSU processes players but pulling offers at a late date is crummy in my book.

 

[proud2bpsufan]

If the Buffs community has a large NIL support base he can build up the team pretty quickly. That's the world of college football in 2023. Deion also has excitement around him as a coach right now. The combination of those two factors could make Colorado an interesting team to watch over the next few years.

 

[bison13]

If the Buffs community has a large NIL support base he can build up the team pretty quickly. That's the world of college football in 2023. Deion also has excitement around him as a coach right now. The combination of those two factors could make Colorado an interesting team to watch over the next few years.

plus they got weed

 

[bdgan]

Deion lands No. 1 CB as McClain flips to Colorado

Cormani McClain, a five-star cornerback and the No. 4 overall prospect in his class, announced he has flipped from Miami to Colorado, giving coach Deion Sanders his first five-star prospect as Buffaloes coach.

www.espn.com

Curious to see how long he stays at Colorado especially if they win right away.

Where's he getting the NIL money? On3 NIL value for this kid is $387k.

On3 NIL value for WR Travis Hunter is $727k. Chephas is $17k.

 

[Wandering Spectator]

The academic standards of the two universities is pretty dramatic. It will be interesting to see how it impacts recruiting.

 

[Wallace Breen]

Deion lands No. 1 CB as McClain flips to Colorado

Cormani McClain, a five-star cornerback and the No. 4 overall prospect in his class, announced he has flipped from Miami to Colorado, giving coach Deion Sanders his first five-star prospect as Buffaloes coach.

www.espn.com

Curious to see how long he stays at Colorado especially if they win right away.

I kind of doubt they will win right away. They open at TCU. They get a Nebraska team that will be considerably better under Ruhle in week two. A rivalry game against the Rams in week three then back to back games against Oregon and USC. They could be considerably better and start 0 and 5 or 1 and 4. The tail end isn't much better with UCLA Oregon State, Washington State and Utah sandwiching a winnable game against Arizona. A significantly improved team might finish 5 and 7.

Now, what happens in year two/three, will be the tell, especially when they are in the Big Ten. Yes, they will be a Big Ten team (along with five other Pac-10 schools.

 

[LandoComando]

Nebraska is like scheduling West Virginia, but with better history. Near the bottom of the conference recently. Might be on the upside for the Buffs, but generally it's a "traditional rival" that less than 5% of the CFB audience cares about.

Deion is riding a lot on his son. Who else do they have at QB?

Colorado isn't Penn State either. They have 11 P5 games on their schedule and Colorado State.

 

[LandoComando]

I'm mostly curious why LC credits the Buffs for scheduling the game while Penn State gets zero credit for playing a Big 10 schedule. It's an inconsistency.

I feel like, based on his other writings, that it's a wait and see thing. Nebraska sucked horrible last year. WVU was mildly better in a conference he claimed was better top to bottom. He's pissed all over our OOC game, but praises the Buffs for scheduling an even weaker Nebraska.

I'm sure his logic will be "Colorado sucks, nobody expects much from them"...

By logic you mean the reality that Colorado isn't on Penn State's level?
Change Delaware or UMass to another P5 team I wouldn't complain

 

[lazydave841]

Colorado isn't Penn State either.

Irrelevant.

By logic you mean the reality that Colorado isn't on Penn State's level?
Change Delaware or UMass to another P5 team I wouldn't complain

Irrelevant again.

You done pissed on WVU.

I wouldn't mind losing Delaware for any P5. I actually like UMass before OSU in this instance. It's SEC-minded if Franklin can pull off the follow up.

 

[LMTLION]

I kind of doubt they will win right away. They open at TCU. They get a Nebraska team that will be considerably better under Ruhle in week two. A rivalry game against the Rams in week three then back to back games against Oregon and USC. They could be considerably better and start 0 and 5 or 1 and 4. The tail end isn't much better with UCLA Oregon State, Washington State and Utah sandwiching a winnable game against Arizona. A significantly improved team might finish 5 and 7.

Now, what happens in year two/three, will be the tell, especially when they are in the Big Ten. Yes, they will be a Big Ten team (along with five other Pac-10 schools.

This may be the first time I agree with a point you raise. We know the history of B1G market expansion, and Denver is a nice new market. The conference will probably take Colorado, Wash, Oregon and Arizona State for a nice western pod. I think we probably take the best remaining Texas school (TCU or Baylor) and eventually UNC and UVA when the ACC GOR is sorted out. ND will then finally join.

 

[LandoComando]

Irrelevant.



Irrelevant again.

You done pissed on WVU.

I wouldn't mind losing Delaware for any P5. I actually like UMass before OSU in this instance. It's SEC-minded if Franklin can pull off the follow up.

It's not irrelevant. And, yes, WVU is garbage under Neal Brown. If you only play 1 P5 school it can't be WVU. It's not as pathetic as Michigan (or Georgia in 2023) but it also isn't acceptable.

I'm fine with UMass but not UMass and Delaware. Even if you bump Delaware for say Wake Forest I'd tolerate that because 2 mid-level/sub-par P5 makes up for not playing someone that should be legit--like Ohio State/Notre Dame

As the playoff expands the committee should award teams that play better schedules.

 

[cment]

IMO Prime will be very successful at CU. The dude can recruit and vet good coaches. He also wears an “anti-HC” vibe that kids seem to love.

Would love to see the Buffalos relevant again.

 

[lazydave841]

As the playoff expands the committee should award teams that play better schedules.

They've been fine with 0 and 1 loss P5 teams thus far. In an expanded playoff, what cause is their to schedule tougher? 2 losses is generally going to be the cutoff for 12. Unless you can win, a la Bama/UGA/OSU, LOSING a big time matchup could be fatal if you lose 2 conference games.

 

[LandoComando]

They've been fine with 0 and 1 loss P5 teams thus far. In an expanded playoff, what cause is their to schedule tougher? 2 losses is generally going to be the cutoff for 12. Unless you can win, a la Bama/UGA/OSU, LOSING a big time matchup could be fatal if you lose 2 conference games.

We'll see--I don't believe that going from 4-12--it will be more like March Madness

 

[lazydave841]

10-3 Oregon, with its 46 pt loss to UGA, finished 15th in the final AP poll. They even got up to #6 with that loss (would have been higher without it, but unsure how much).

Had they been 11-2, they could have finished 6-10. In a 12 team playoff, they would have been out because of UGA and not in with a Direction School.

 

[LandoComando]

10-3 Oregon, with its 46 pt loss to UGA, finished 15th in the final AP poll. They even got up to #6 with that loss (would have been higher without it, but unsure how much).

Had they been 11-2, they could have finished 6-10. In a 12 team playoff, they would have been out because of UGA and not in with a Direction School.

You assume that will remain constant with at 12 team playoff--it won't IMO. SOS is going to be huge to keep out G5 in particular.

 

[lazydave841]

You assume that will remain constant with at 12 team playoff--it won't IMO. SOS is going to be huge to keep out G5 in particular.

G5 will get their token spot. It's still all subjective for the committee. SOS might shape the 12, but winning trumps all. They might justify a 3 loss Oregon over a 2nd G5 with 1 or 2 losses if there is an undefeated G5 already in, but that's it.

A 2 loss P5 will get in over a 3 loss if the difference is one lost to UGA while the other beat a soup can.

 

[LandoComando]

G5 will get their token spot. It's still all subjective for the committee. SOS might shape the 12, but winning trumps all. They might justify a 3 loss Oregon over a 2nd G5 with 1 or 2 losses if there is an undefeated G5 already in, but that's it.

A 2 loss P5 will get in over a 3 loss if the difference is one lost to UGA while the other beat a soup can.

Right--G5 gets ONE spot--hence SOS. Again, see March Madness--it won't be just about the record. You keep focusing on the current system.

 

[Wallace Breen]

Right--G5 gets ONE spot--hence SOS. Again, see March Madness--it won't be just about the record. You keep focusing on the current system.

The new system will be no better or relevant. It will actually be worse as there will be byes which makes any result no less credible than the BCS which got it wrong more often than it got it right.

 

[KC-KS-Lion]

Personally, I'm not a fan of Sanders. I never liked Hot dogs. I'm waiting for him to fail and end this love affair from the people hyping him.

I would laugh when you were able to identify him on the field by his clean shirt-not dirt or grass stains. It worked for him, but he pretty much played touch football. I also remember Rod Woodson coming back from his ACL being able to cover him in the Super Bowl.

 

[lazydave841]

Right--G5 gets ONE spot--hence SOS. Again, see March Madness--it won't be just about the record. You keep focusing on the current system.

I don't follow your logic. How does the G5 getting one spot have anything to do with SOS for the P5 teams?

You seem to have an idealized way the 12 team playoff is going to go. I don't believe that they will weigh SOS vs wins and losses like basketball. 9-3 Oregon isn't getting ranked over 10-2 Clemson just because Oregon lost to UGA while Clemson played Greeneville Tech.

The G5 will still be weighed based on the multitude of things they get thrown at them. An undefeated Cincy was no lock for being #4 two playoffs ago, but their close game vs UGA the year prior helped their image in the eye test department.

 

[LandoComando]

The new system will be no better or relevant. It will actually be worse as there will be byes which makes any result no less credible than the BCS which got it wrong more often than it got it right.

I think the byes going to conference champs is stupid but I think you'll see 3 loss teams over 2 loss teams for at large spots

 

[LandoComando]

I don't follow your logic. How does the G5 getting one spot have anything to do with SOS for the P5 teams?

You seem to have an idealized way the 12 team playoff is going to go. I don't believe that they will weigh SOS vs wins and losses like basketball. 9-3 Oregon isn't getting ranked over 10-2 Clemson just because Oregon lost to UGA while Clemson played Greeneville Tech.

The G5 will still be weighed based on the multitude of things they get thrown at them. An undefeated Cincy was no lock for being #4 two playoffs ago, but their close game vs UGA the year prior helped their image in the eye test department.

Nothing idealized about it. 12 isn't enough. I think you're mistaken about how they'll seed teams and determine at large. Thankfully we'll find our soon.

 

[lazydave841]

Nothing idealized about it. 12 isn't enough. I think you're mistaken about how they'll seed teams and determine at large. Thankfully we'll find our soon.

It's completely idealized. We've seen nothing other than "it's going to 12 teams". I'm leaning towards they will stick with the current status quo and adjust in increments as necessary. You foresee what would be a somewhat drastic shift.

 

[Waltwam]

They've been fine with 0 and 1 loss P5 teams thus far. In an expanded playoff, what cause is their to schedule tougher? 2 losses is generally going to be the cutoff for 12. Unless you can win, a la Bama/UGA/OSU, LOSING a big time matchup could be fatal if you lose 2 conference games.

You may be right, but here's hoping we get to the point again where we are not afraid of playing any team in the country!

 

[LandoComando]

It's completely idealized. We've seen nothing other than "it's going to 12 teams". I'm leaning towards they will stick with the current status quo and adjust in increments as necessary. You foresee what would be a somewhat drastic shift.

Again an assumption ignoring what larger college "invitational tournaments" do.