Corbett, PSU "Cover Up" & where that narrative came from

[wensilver]

I re-read Brad Bumsted's book "Keystone Corruption" yesterday - and this line stood out to me.



The State has yet to prove a "cover up" at PSU. If there was one, it is more likely to be at Second Mile, but since Lynne Abraham scuttled that - we'll never know, will we?

Why go in trying to "prove" an institutional cover up at PSU to begin with? Where did that come from? Don't you "follow the facts" and take them "wherever they lead you"? And I'm not talking about Louis Freeh's "facts" - the facts have us going off campus to a children's charity that fell under the auspices of the OAG - not to Joe, Tim, Gary or Graham.

I don't think we give enough of a look at parallel prosecutions that Fina and his fellow gunslingers in the OAG were involved with. Makes me wonder also if that cat Patrick Blessington might have had a helping hand in shaping the PSU narrative.

 

[91Joe95]

Since he brought it up, I wouldn't be surprised if Corbett did commit a crime.

 

[Nitt1300]

I've always suspected that a number of politicians had a special relationship with the Second Mile and needed cover.

 

[91Joe95]

I've always suspected that a number of politicians had a special relationship with the Second Mile and needed cover.

Corbett defending the Second Mile after everything happened was an absolute head scratcher.

 

[Fayette_LION]

I re-read Brad Bumsted's book "Keystone Corruption" yesterday - and this line stood out to me.

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The State has yet to prove a "cover up" at PSU. If there was one, it is more likely to be at Second Mile, but since Lynne Abraham scuttled that - we'll never know, will we?

Why go in trying to "prove" an institutional cover up at PSU to begin with? Where did that come from? Don't you "follow the facts" and take them "wherever they lead you"? And I'm not talking about Louis Freeh's "facts" - the facts have us going off campus to a children's charity that fell under the auspices of the OAG - not to Joe, Tim, Gary or Graham.

I don't think we give enough of a look at parallel prosecutions that Fina and his fellow gunslingers in the OAG were involved with. Makes me wonder also if that cat Patrick Blessington might have had a helping hand in shaping the PSU narrative.

Corbutt had it in for Spanier big time. Best way to get at Spanier was to say let's find that he covered up for Jerry and I'll have the bunch right where I want them. JMO. Corbutt's vendetta against Spanier is the link that connects this mess but is pooh poohed by the media. No investigation of the Second Mile is a MAJOR travesty that any reputable media person would be screaming about. Oh, they are in Corbutt's back pocket!

 

[marshall23]

Justice will be served in due time. Corbett was fired as governor and now serves as a glorified substitute teacher(adjunct). Fina is a dead man walking. A "career" prosecutor who will soon be looking for any job available. Feudale is doing a Nixon impression and speaking to portraits. I know this isn't enough to compensate for the lives they have destroyed. It is a start. Here's hoping OGBOT, Erickson and others are in jump suits when all is said and done.

 

[baircub1!]

Corbutt had it in for Spanier big time. Best way to get at Spanier was to say let's find that he covered up for Jerry and I'll have the bunch right where I want them. JMO. Corbutt's vendetta against Spanier is the link that connects this mess but is pooh poohed by the media. No investigation of the Second Mile is a MAJOR travesty that any reputable media person would be screaming about. Oh, they are in Corbutt's back pocket!

It is as like a perfect storm as Surma wanted a piece of Paterno as well.... All they needed was a horrific crime and an irresponsible media to run with any sensationalized story they could drum up...

Surma , Corbett , Fina , Frazier and that Ass Clown Emmert who was just dying to show the power... Any power he had with the NCAA.... Remember this was all during the same time Roger Goodell said as taking a stance on the New Orlean Saints....

As much as I despise ESPN... Thisbreallybis a perfect 30 for 30 episode.... Truth really is stranger than Fiction...

 

[zwick99]

Another former member of the Pennsylvania Attorney General's Office is taking the office to court, bringing to six the number of lawsuits brought by former state prosecutors, agents, and top administrators.


http://www.philly.com/philly/news/2...e_sues_the_Pa__Attorney_General_s_Office.html

 

[zwick99]

Justice will be served in due time. Corbett was fired as governor and now serves as a glorified substitute teacher(adjunct). Fina is a dead man walking. A "career" prosecutor who will soon be looking for any job available. Feudale is doing a Nixon impression and speaking to portraits. I know this isn't enough to compensate for the lives they have destroyed. It is a start. Here's hoping OGBOT, Erickson and others are in jump suits when all is said and done.

10 years from now you will still be crying about the people who replace them. Always blaming someone else for your problems.

 

[Aoshiro]

Another former member of the Pennsylvania Attorney General's Office is taking the office to court, bringing to six the number of lawsuits brought by former state prosecutors, agents, and top administrators.


http://www.philly.com/philly/news/2...e_sues_the_Pa__Attorney_General_s_Office.html

The OAG was a cesspool filled with porn-swapping perverts.
It doesn't matter how many of them sue. It doesn't change the fact that the OAG needed a thorough housecleaning.

 

[zwick99]

The OAG was a cesspool filled with porn-swapping perverts.
It doesn't matter how many of them sue. It doesn't change the fact that the OAG needed a thorough housecleaning.

Except this was not a porn swapper. Kane kept her porn swapping staff and fired people for telling the truth.

 

[91Joe95]

Thank god Kane ended the careers of a bunch of those dirtbags. Its a nice start.

 

[chizco]

Thank god Kane ended the careers of a bunch of those dirtbags. Its a nice start.

Too bad Frankie "I only stored the porn and didn't read it" Noonan got to ride off into the sunset.

 

[psu7113]

Corbutt had it in for Spanier big time. Best way to get at Spanier was to say let's find that he covered up for Jerry and I'll have the bunch right where I want them. JMO. Corbutt's vendetta against Spanier is the link that connects this mess but is pooh poohed by the media. No investigation of the Second Mile is a MAJOR travesty that any reputable media person would be screaming about. Oh, they are in Corbutt's back pocket!

Sorry, but the media is not and was never in Corbett's pocket. He is a Republican and was relatively unpopular to boot. He held no sway over the media and certainly does not now. You (like many in this board) are blinded by your apparent dislike of Corbett and your (totally understandable) desire to find someone on whom to project your anger over the way in which Joe was (mis)treated. Actually, in this respect, you are not that different than the general public was in their superficial, uninformed reaction to the Sandusky scandal.

 

[artsandletters]

Except this was not a porn swapper. Kane kept her porn swapping staff and fired people for telling the truth.

Stick to something else you have no clue about, recruiting. If this shitstorm happened to you, you would not be so obstinant.

 

[lubrano]

The Governor played a very significant role in the handling of this sordid affair.

 

[Fayette_LION]

Sorry, but the media is not and was never in Corbett's pocket. He is a Republican and was relatively unpopular to boot. He held no sway over the media and certainly does not now. You (like many in this board) are blinded by your apparent dislike of Corbett and your (totally understandable) desire to find someone on whom to project your anger over the way in which Joe was (mis)treated. Actually, in this respect, you are not that different than the general public was in their superficial, uninformed reaction to the Sandusky scandal.

The media is in the Governments pocket, not just Corbutt. Rendell had them by the nose also. Sorry you can't see that, just look at most mainstream media in Pa. They are in love with the legislators and the Gov.

 

[bhill29]

The Governor played a very significant role in the handling of this sordid affair.

First, thanks for continuing to try and set the record straight. I may have missed it but have you been given access to the Freeh material? The last I heard you were headed back to court over who was paying the lawyer fees. Has this been resolved?

Also, appreciate you occasional insights into the situation, cryptic as they are. I realize you are not able to speak freely. Hopefully, one day you can.

 

[BBHorn86]

The Second Mile is where the dirty laundry hides (or used to hide now that it is dissolved). That was the political contribution conduit that got Corbett and many others elected. Surma got his pound of flesh to appease his brother and Corbett got Spanier. The worthless bureaucrats running CYS and the PA DofW got their poor judgment shielded and passed off to others. Meanwhile truth is ignored all along. I just hope the Paterno's fry these parties in the public square.

 

[lubrano]

First, thanks for continuing to try and set the record straight. I may have missed it but have you been given access to the Freeh material? The last I heard you were headed back to court over who was paying the lawyer fees. Has this been resolved?

Also, appreciate you occasional insights into the situation, cryptic as they are. I realize you are not able to speak freely. Hopefully, one day you can.

No ruling from the court yet.

Stay tuned...

 

[wensilver]

Another former member of the Pennsylvania Attorney General's Office is taking the office to court, bringing to six the number of lawsuits brought by former state prosecutors, agents, and top administrators.


http://www.philly.com/philly/news/2...e_sues_the_Pa__Attorney_General_s_Office.html

Kevin - this post is not about Kathleen Kane.

This is about Tom Corbett's Office of Attorney General angling for a "cover up" well in advance of any whiff of a "cover up".

Which is oddly familiar to the Monsignor Lynn prosecution, asserting a "conspiracy" when in fact, there was never one ever found.

Way too much smoke here.

 

[Judge Smails]

Sorry, but the media is not and was never in Corbett's pocket. He is a Republican and was relatively unpopular to boot. He held no sway over the media and certainly does not now. You (like many in this board) are blinded by your apparent dislike of Corbett and your (totally understandable) desire to find someone on whom to project your anger over the way in which Joe was (mis)treated. Actually, in this respect, you are not that different than the general public was in their superficial, uninformed reaction to the Sandusky scandal.

We found a Corbett dead-ender. I didn't think any still existed.

 

[Adlee73]

Kevin - this post is not about Kathleen Kane.

This is about Tom Corbett's Office of Attorney General angling for a "cover up" well in advance of any whiff of a "cover up".

Which is oddly familiar to the Monsignor Lynn prosecution, asserting a "conspiracy" when in fact, there was never one ever found.

Way too much smoke here.

While Ray believes Corbett lied I think there's a possible explanation. In Silent No More, Mike Gillum implies the OAG knew of the 1998 incident by June 2009. Centre County ADA Mark Smith told Moulton he told DA Madeira about the 1998 investigation in February 2009 before Madeira turned the case over to the OAG. With the likelihood of the OAG knowing about 1998 but unable to find the files, this may've been the suspected cover up Corbett referred to.

 

[Aoshiro]

While Ray believes Corbett lied I think there's a possible explanation. In Silent No More, Mike Gillum implies the OAG knew of the 1998 incident by June 2009. Centre County ADA Mark Smith told Moulton he told DA Madeira about the 1998 investigation in February 2009 before Madeira turned the case over to the OAG. With the likelihood of the OAG knowing about 1998 but unable to find the files, this may've been the suspected cover up Corbett referred to.

They weren't "unable to find the files." They didn't ask for them.

 

[TheHumbleBuckeye]

While Ray believes Corbett lied I think there's a possible explanation. In Silent No More, Mike Gillum implies the OAG knew of the 1998 incident by June 2009. Centre County ADA Mark Smith told Moulton he told DA Madeira about the 1998 investigation in February 2009 before Madeira turned the case over to the OAG. With the likelihood of the OAG knowing about 1998 but unable to find the files, this may've been the suspected cover up Corbett referred to.

This tell me Corbett knew there was a cover up. It does not say "investigate a cover up". It says he needed the grand jury powers to "prove a cover up". But even if he was told about '98, I still don't think that's enough for him to be certain of a cover up (so much so that the phrase "prove a cover up" would be warranted). Because if he knew about '98, then he would have known Gricar was aware and made his own decision not to prosecute.

So given that the language "prove a cover up" suggests Corbett was already certain of a cover up, how was he so certain? As I said, I don't think the '98 incident is enough to make anyone "certain" of a cover up. Is it possible Corbett was so certain of a cover up because he already knew about such a cover up? Possibly because he and/or his cronies were directly involved? And he needed the grand jury powers to "prove" a cover up, because he was already well aware of one? And he just needed to craft a narrative to pin the cover up on a different group of people?

Think about it. Even if you knew about the '98 incident, I don't think it's enough to be certain of a cover up. It might make one suspect a coverup. Furthermore, knowledge of both '98 and '01 would certainly make someone with a prosecutor's mentality believe in a coverup. Enough that they feel they feel compelled to "prove" one. But knowledge of '98 alone does not warrant such strong certainty of a cover up.

TL;DR... if Corbett felt he needed to "prove" a coverup, it's because he was "certain" there was one. He was certain because he and/or his cronies were involved and/or had knowledge. And he needed the GJ to make it appear some other group of people were responsible for the cover up.

Misder... if you're lurking, I'd be interested in your take on my theory.

 

[bkmtnittany1]

I've always suspected that a number of politicians had a special relationship with the Second Mile and needed cover.[/QUOTe

Like One Term Tommy taking 647k for his campaign from people associated with the 2M...may he rot in hell that POS

 

[indynittany]

Corbett defending the Second Mile after everything happened was an absolute head scratcher.

Over the course of several years, Corbett took over $650,000 in campaign contributions from TSM and it's wealthy donors.

 

[pandaczar12]

This tell me Corbett knew there was a cover up. It does not say "investigate a cover up". It says he needed the grand jury powers to "prove a cover up". But even if he was told about '98, I still don't think that's enough for him to be certain of a cover up (so much so that the phrase "prove a cover up" would be warranted). Because if he knew about '98, then he would have known Gricar was aware and made his own decision not to prosecute.

So given that the language "prove a cover up" suggests Corbett was already certain of a cover up, how was he so certain? As I said, I don't think the '98 incident is enough to make anyone "certain" of a cover up. Is it possible Corbett was so certain of a cover up because he already knew about such a cover up? Possibly because he and/or his cronies were directly involved? And he needed the grand jury powers to "prove" a cover up, because he was already well aware of one? And he just needed to craft a narrative to pin the cover up on a different group of people?

Think about it. Even if you knew about the '98 incident, I don't think it's enough to be certain of a cover up. It might make one suspect a coverup. Furthermore, knowledge of both '98 and '01 would certainly make someone with a prosecutor's mentality believe in a coverup. Enough that they feel they feel compelled to "prove" one. But knowledge of '98 alone does not warrant such strong certainty of a cover up.

TL;DR... if Corbett felt he needed to "prove" a coverup, it's because he was "certain" there was one. He was certain because he and/or his cronies were involved and/or had knowledge. And he needed the GJ to make it appear some other group of people were responsible for the cover up.

Misder... if you're lurking, I'd be interested in your take on my theory.

What was there to cover up... that an ex employee that no one particularly liked committed crimes off campus? If anyone at PSU had the appropriate knowledge to help catch JS in 2001, they would have done it and it would have been GOOD publicity for the school. A cover up never made any sense. It didn't make sense when this investigation started, it makes even less sense now that we know that PSU reported to TSM, and that the lead prosecutor found no evidence of a cover up.

 

[bkmtnittany1]

The cover up worked...Corbett and his cronies from the 2M walked away scott free

 

[Ten Thousan Marbles]

The media is in the Governments pocket, not just Corbutt. Rendell had them by the nose also. Sorry you can't see that, just look at most mainstream media in Pa. They are in love with the legislators and the Gov.

Mostly they are in love with sources....whoever they may be.

 

[TheHumbleBuckeye]

What was there to cover up... that an ex employee that no one particularly liked committed crimes off campus? If anyone at PSU had the appropriate knowledge to help catch JS in 2001, they would have done it and it would have been GOOD publicity for the school. A cover up never made any sense. It didn't make sense when this investigation started, it makes even less sense now that we know that PSU reported to TSM, and that the lead prosecutor found no evidence of a cover up.

You're thinking cover up in terms of PSU. That's not the real cover up (there wasn't anything to cover up). But that's exactly what Corbett and Co. want you to be focused on.

 

[pandaczar12]

You're thinking cover up in terms of PSU. That's not the real cover up (there wasn't anything to cover up). But that's exactly what Corbett and Co. want you to be focused on.

Which cover up should I be focused on? TSM? BOT?

 

[TheHumbleBuckeye]

The cover up worked...Corbett and his cronies from the 2M walked away scott free

Exactly.

For those familiar with House of Cards, think back to Claire's affair with that artsy dude. There's a photo of her in the shower at his apartment. How did they take care of that situation? Did they deny the photo's authenticity? No. Because she knew the photo was real and authentic. Proving otherwise would be a tough task. Thus they acknowledged the photo was authentic. They just said it was someone else in the photo, and paid someone that looked like Claire to say so. The media was satisfied and moved on. Corbett knew about a cover up. Disproving his involvement or knowledge would be tough. So he acknowledges a cover up, and basically uses the tools at his disposal to pin it on others. And he paid someone to agree with that (Freeh). And the media was satisfied and moved on.

 

[StinkStankStunk]

Exactly.

For those familiar with House of Cards, think back to Claire's affair with that artsy dude. There's a photo of her in the shower at his apartment. How did they take care of that situation? Did they deny the photo's authenticity? No. Because she knew the photo was real and authentic. Proving otherwise would be a tough task. Thus they acknowledged the photo was authentic. They just said it was someone else in the photo, and paid someone that looked like Claire to say so. The media was satisfied and moved on. Corbett knew about a cover up. Disproving his involvement or knowledge would be tough. So he acknowledges a cover up, and basically uses the tools at his disposal to pin it on others. And he paid someone to agree with that (Freeh). And the media was satisfied and moved on.

It's actually kinda' funny......HB seems to honestly believe he is providing "education" to anyone here on this board

I mean, I don't want to be overly critical.....but does he REALLY think he is shedding light on ANYTHING we may not have been aware of - - and beaten like a dead mule - - for years?

 

[TheHumbleBuckeye]

Which cover up should I be focused on? TSM? BOT?

I don't exactly have the answer to that, but I think TSM would be a good place to start. All I know is, anyone with half a brain knows this was not a cover up by C/S/S/JVP. But the language Corbett uses suggests he was certain of the existence of a cover up. Such a level of certainty suggests involvement and/or direct knowledge. And since covering up a cover up is really hard, he decides it best to just acknowledge there was a cover up, but blame it on other people.

 

[PSU_Chicago]

Thanks HB.

 

[Obliviax]

The Governor played a very significant role in the handling of this sordid affair.

...and that's the reason why he lost soundly in a year when almost every other republican in the nation won in the 2014 mid terms. A look at the stats shows you he lost in central PA, which is very republican.

I've heard national talking heads refer to Wolf's win as being due to "highly unique circumstances in PA" without going into the details. I think they know why he got trounced.

 

[PSU_Chicago]

Obli ... Corbett was also a terrible governor that deserved to be shown the door. Then his leading involvement in all of this ....

 

[fairfaxlion2]

Corbett was like Richard Nixon except without a functioning brain

 

[Ten Thousan Marbles]

I know where it came from....

You see, there is a guy in this top picture (at right) who has managed to escape all inquiries...even though this picture was in the mix from the very beginning of the storm.
http://www.pulitzer.org/files/2012/local_reporting/local07.pdf