I'm sure it has been mentioned at some point on this board but hasn't seemed to generated a whole lot of discussion. Is Cortez without question out for the remainder of the season?
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It has been discussed and speculated on, but we don't have a lot to go on. We know he had surgery last week. Ironhead said in one of the broadcasts that he was likely out for the season. The teams are limited in terms of discussing details, unless the athlete elects to provide the info.
Perhaps more will be disclosed in media day this week, on on the Coaches Show this week. Or then again, due to the restrictions on disclosing health info, and the uncertainty of how long his rehab will be, perhaps we really won't learn anything more until B1Gs.
Given that he just had shoulder surgery and has 4.5 weeks until B10s, he's not gonna make it.
PSU can say "probably won't" or "likely out" or the like, but just thinking thru the process: once he gets out of the sling he'll need to do range of motion + basic strength rehab, etc. ... and then be cleared with no risk of re-injury ... and then be able to test it in the room ... and is he still maintaining weight without being able to work out?
4.5 weeks.
BWI will never show the love for Cortez that HR gave Grothus. Knowing this, I'm not sure why a recruit would choose this fan base over the Hawks
#challenge
Only 1128 more comments needed. Whoops---make that 1127.BWI will never show the love for Cortez that HR gave Grothus. Knowing this, I'm not sure why a recruit would choose this fan base over the Hawks
#challenge
Would love to see him back this year, but I'm hoping for his sake he has a full recovery and he can come back really strong next year.
I know a million things can change between now and next year, but... there are currently 5 Seniors in the top 12 Intermat ranking for 133. Here's hoping for a great year for him next year.
I know a million things can change between now and next year, but... there are currently 5 Seniors in the top 12 Intermat ranking for 133. Here's hoping for a great year for him next year.
I've known alcoholics who didn't give vodka that much love.BWI will never show the love for Cortez that HR gave Grothus. Knowing this, I'm not sure why a recruit would choose this fan base over the Hawks
#challenge
"[Cortez]'s probably not going to be back this season. He was getting back to full speed-ish and we were going to test him out and see how it went and it didn't go too well." -Cael 1-18 Coaches Show
Once they cut into the shoulder to repair whatever was damaged, his season was over. There isn't any, well maybe we should rest him or not rest him.
Rehabing a surgically repaired shoulder to function in everyday life and assuming everything goes perfectly takes 8 - 12 weeks if everything is not perfect probably 16 weeks.
Rehabing a surgically repaired shoulder to function in everyday life and assuming everything goes perfectly takes 8 - 12 weeks if everything is not perfect probably 16 weeks.
No chance he's back at this point.
If it was apparent in early December that surgery was the best option and he had surgery immediately, he would have had a chance of coming back. My guess is that the doctors said in Dec he might be able to wrestle through it and have surgery after the season ended. Once it became clear his shoulder wasn't recovering properly they just decided to get the surgery done now in preparation for next year.
If it was apparent in early December that surgery was the best option and he had surgery immediately, he would have had a chance of coming back. My guess is that the doctors said in Dec he might be able to wrestle through it and have surgery after the season ended. Once it became clear his shoulder wasn't recovering properly they just decided to get the surgery done now in preparation for next year.
This all screams labrum to me, likely a SLAP tear. First choice for the doctor for a minor labral tear, especially one that occurs without a dislocation is to rehab and attempt to strengthen the muscles around the joint. It's very likely that was ongoing while the "he could go but we're playing it safe" messaging was happening.
Sooner or later, though, you have to test it, and there's still a good chance that isn't going to be great. A SLAP isn't horrible from a stability standpoint, but there can still be a ton of discomfort, especially as that arm is extended and stretched above the head. Once that slippage/discomfort/inflammation returns you are basically back to square one. Enough square ones and it's time for surgery.
Good news is that the SLAP repair techniques have really improved over the past 10-15 years (especially the last 9 grumblegrumble). Since it is unlikely he has a ton of damage to the shoulder sheath, it'll be a "straightforward" scope, meaning only the affected areas need to heal. That's most likely the bone where they drill for the anchors and the bicep tendon, which probably needs to be re-anchored as well.
The biggest problem for the labrum rehab isn't the rehab itself, it is getting to a point where you can even truly rehab. Since it is just a piece of cartilage, any sort of movement will hinder re-attachment. They'll start doing some basic mobility work a few weeks in, but any sort of lifting is out for a good long time.For me, nothing heavier than a cup of coffee for 2 months, nothing heavier than a gallon of milk for 4, but mine was probably more serious than this one (open not scoped, multiple labrum tears, other shoulder trauma)
~10 months until competition is a pretty good time period to get back to "normal", especially for these guys. From there, there's a very wide spectrum in chances of reinjury.
- Is this a structural issue or just an injury?
- How did the surgery go/how did the shoulder respond to the anchors?
- How did he respond to the rehab? Is there any permanent mobility loss?
etc.
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