David Carr to Iowa State

[PSUisawesome]

This feels pretty huge in terms of Ohio State's short term future. Every time they mentioned David was from
Ohio my heart sank. He definitely will put up points at the NCAAs in the years to come. Obviously points for Iowa State will not mean much for the next few years. I feel we ducked a huge bullet. Good Luck David Carr!

 

[T J]

Iowa State wrestling adds blue-chip legacy recruit David Carr

CHRIS CUELLAR | CCUELLAR@DMREG.COM
5 hours ago

Iowa State's new head coach Kevin Dresser met with the media on Friday after the Cyclones completed their worst NCAA finish ever at the Scottrade Center.

CHRIS CUELLAR / THE REGISTER
Iowa State wrestling has recruited another Carr.




https://amp.desmoinesregister.com/amp/776901001​

 

[T J]

Iowa State wrestling adds blue-chip legacy recruit David Carr

CHRIS CUELLAR | CCUELLAR@DMREG.COM
5 hours ago

Iowa State's new head coach Kevin Dresser met with the media on Friday after the Cyclones completed their worst NCAA finish ever at the Scottrade Center.

CHRIS CUELLAR / THE REGISTER


Iowa State wrestling has recruited another Carr.

And this one could be a foundational piece in first-year head coach Kevin Dresser’s rebuild.

Oct 2, 2016; Bethlehem, PA, USA; David Carr (in black) wrestles against Cam Coy (in green) at Lehigh University Grace Hall. Mandatory Credit: Derik Hamilton-USA TODAY Sports

DERIK HAMILTON, DERIK HAMILTON-USA TODAY SPORTS

David Carr, a 152-pound senior from Massillon, Ohio, and son of former Cyclone star Nate Carr, announced his commitment on Wednesday afternoon on a video with FloWrestling. David is a three-time Ohio high school state champion and rated as the No. 5 prospect nationally by Flo.

“It was definitely tough, and I didn’t know what I wanted to do,” Carr said in his commitment announcement, “but I prayed about it, and I feel like God was leading me to Iowa State.”



Nate Carr won three NCAA titles and two Big Eight titles with Iowa State in the early 1980s, eventually claiming a bronze medal at the 1988 Olympics. His oldest son, Nate Carr Jr., wrestled for the Cyclones from 2008-11 following a national junior college title season at Iowa Central.

Des Moines Register photo by Doug Wells. 11/23//08 Ames -- s1124wrestling-- Iowa State beats Arizona State, 24-11, in wrestling at Hilton Coliseum in Ames. At 157 lbs, ISU's Nate Carr Jr. beats Arizona State's Jerrad Trulson.
DOUG WELLS / DES MOINES REGISTER


David has already won a Fargo national title and a Cadet world bronze medal in freestyle. He considered Ohio State, Oklahoma State, Nebraska and Cornell among his final choices, but decided on the Cyclones ahead of his senior high school season.

https://amp.desmoinesregister.com/amp/776901001​

 

[LaxHawk174]

"“It was definitely tough, and I didn’t know what I wanted to do,” Carr said in his commitment announcement, “but I prayed about it, and I feel like God was leading me to Iowa State.”"

Ryan certainly won't be happy to hear that God was leading his top in state kids elsewhere.

 

[oldcougar65]

Looks like Dresser intends to bring Iowa State back to prominence. Carr is fun to watch. He's somewhat sloppy and inconsistent, but when he's on, he's really on. He's got a great upside.

 

[Real-Lion]

This feels pretty huge in terms of Ohio State's short term future. Every time they mentioned David was from
Ohio my heart sank. He definitely will put up points at the NCAAs in the years to come. Obviously points for Iowa State will not mean much for the next few years. I feel we ducked a huge bullet. Good Luck David Carr!

Iowa State is taking over that state big time. Know it was coming !!!!

 

[Sportfan2017]

Quality wrestler.....Quality young man. Well spoken and always smiling.....definitely easy to root for. Best Wishes. ENJOY your time in Iowa

 

[Flying_Tiger]

In that twitter picture of him with his parents, you can just tell papa Carr (and mom) are thrilled he is heading to dad's Alma mater. I was lucky enough to have a similar experience when my daughter chose Penn State last year. Granted, tOSU wasn't in the picture like with Carr but I did have to deal with the possibility of Pitt

 

[El-Jefe]

"“It was definitely tough, and I didn’t know what I wanted to do,” Carr said in his commitment announcement, “but I prayed about it, and I feel like God was leading me to Iowa State.”"

Ryan certainly won't be happy to hear that God was leading his top in state kids elsewhere.

This reminds me of Reggie White's free agency. When asked how he landed White, Mike Holmgren joked: I left a message on Reggie's voicemail -- "This is God. Go to Green Bay."

 

[Mikefontenot27]

Iowa State is taking over that state big time. Know it was coming !!!!

I don't think landing a legacy recruit is anything other than that. Dresser hasn't exactly excelled in recruiting.

 

[NoVa Lion]

I don't think landing a legacy recruit is anything other than that. Dresser hasn't exactly excelled in recruiting.

He hasn't? He did quite well at VT. I expect he will duplicate those results at ISU and Carr is certainly a good start.

 

[Mikefontenot27]

He did do quite well at va tech but as Cael knows recruiting to Ames consistently is difficult. Cael is easily(along with gable to those over 30) the most polarizing figure in wrestling.

Point being if Cael couldn't do it why can dresser?

 

[NoVa Lion]

He did do quite well at va tech but as Cael knows recruiting to Ames consistently is difficult. Cael is easily(along with gable to those over 30) the most polarizing figure in wrestling.

Point being if Cael couldn't do it why can dresser?

Cael didn't do well at ISU? News to me AND to the world. You may want to check out how Cael did at ISU because the results were pretty impressive. Not as well as Iowa was doing at the time, but then neither was any other coach or team in the USA.

 

[dunkej01]

Cael didn't do well at ISU? News to me AND to the world. You may want to check out how Cael did at ISU because the results were pretty impressive. Not as well as Iowa was doing at the time, but then neither was any other coach or team in the USA.

especially against a double class....ba boom boom ching

 

[T J]

Iowa State receives a commitment from five-star recruit

• By Trevor Holbrook, trevor.holbrook@iowastatedaily.com
• Oct 18, 2017 Updated 18 hrs ago

In the 1980s, Iowa State's wrestling program had the luxury of Nate Carr's talent, which earned him his three NCAA Championships.

Now, Kevin Dresser will coach the next generation at Iowa State: David Carr.

Carr is projected to wrestle at 165 pounds or 174 pounds at the collegiate level.




Carr is a 152-pound senior from Massillon, Ohio. The latest commit has compiled an impressive record in his three high school seasons.


The 152-pounder has snagged three state championships in Ohio, garnering him a No. 5 pound-for-pound national ranking, according to flowrestling.org.

Before choosing the Cyclones, the highly-touted recruit trimmed his school choices to Ohio State, Cornell, Oklahoma State, Iowa State and Nebraska.

​

 

[RoarLions1]

I don't think landing a legacy recruit is anything other than that. Dresser hasn't exactly excelled in recruiting.

He hasn't? He did quite well at VT. I expect he will duplicate those results at ISU and Carr is certainly a good start.

He did do quite well at va tech but as Cael knows recruiting to Ames consistently is difficult. Cael is easily(along with gable to those over 30) the most polarizing figure in wrestling.

Point being if Cael couldn't do it why can dresser?

Cael didn't do well at ISU? News to me AND to the world. You may want to check out how Cael did at ISU because the results were pretty impressive. Not as well as Iowa was doing at the time, but then neither was any other coach or team in the USA.

Specifically, 2nd, 5th, and 3rd in 3 seasons, including the 2007 finish (2nd) to Iowa's 8th Place finish.

It's my humble opinion that Iowa State made a tremendous hire, and while I don't share the "take over the state" thinking, given time, Iowa State will be perennial top-10, after finishing 12, 14, 12, and an eye-popping 57th the last 4 years.

 

[El-Jefe]

Things you learn on this board:

1. Recruiting big-time athletes to a tradition-free program in a remote corner of the south, in a state that doesn't produce a ton of college talent, is easier than to the program that developed the 2 best all-time college wrestlers.

2. Cael landed David Taylor and Matt Brown among others at ISU, and certainly was a big part in landing Jake Varner and David Zabriskie, but he couldn't recruit until he moved out of Iowa.

 

[RoarLions1]

Things you learn on this board:

1. Recruiting big-time athletes to a tradition-free program in a remote corner of the south, in a state that doesn't produce a ton of college talent, is easier than to the program that developed the 2 best all-time college wrestlers.

2. Cael landed David Taylor and Matt Brown among others at ISU, and certainly was a big part in landing Jake Varner and David Zabriskie, but he couldn't recruit until he moved out of Iowa.

When one considers loyalties, the answer becomes a little more obvious. Hate/dislike might enter in .

 

[slushhead]

David Carr to ISU . . . naturally, this was destined to turn into a debate about Cael's recruiting abilities. Here's the recipe:

• 2 cups of Spyker/Rings/Champs obnoxious proclamation
• 1 tablespoon of Hawkeye fan gullibility
• 1/4-cup of Hawkeye fan opinion
• 1/4-cup of PSU fan opposing opinion
• 1/2-cup of Hawkeye fan backpedal and redirection
• 1 cup of PSU fan opposing opinion with supporting statistics
• a dash of PSU fan snark

First, pour the 2 cups of SRC obnoxious proclamation into a bowl of your choosing (no need to be precise -- the messier the better). It is important to use this ingredient first, as it is a solid foundation for any debate.

Let the contents settle, then add the Hawkeye fan gullibility. For best results, we suggest a novel brand that is not familiar with SRC products.

Add the Hawkeye fan opinion and PSU opposing opinion and mix the contents of the bowl. Let contents settle for several minutes, then quickly add the Hawkeye fan backpedal and redirection.

Mix contents of bowl again, then pour evenly into a baking pan. Slowly cover the mix with a heavy layer of PSU fan opposing opinion with supporting statistics. Sprinkle a dash of PSU fan snark over the top for flavor (this part is optional, but highly recommended).

Bake in a wrestling forum at 375 degrees for 15 minutes, and voila! Debate about Cael Sanderson's recruiting abilities.

 

[NoVa Lion]

Iowa State is taking over that state big time. Know it was coming !!!!

BTW, everyone seems to forget that Carr was a MUST GET for PSU so the dynasty is now doomed at least per he who must not be named.

 

[Mikefontenot27]

Never did I doubt Cael's recruiting I merely mentioned the difficulty of recruiting to Ames. If Iowa state was poised to pass Iowa it was under Cael not Dresser.

Iowa > ISU = PSU > Pitt. Cael knew that and that's part of the reason he left Ames

Iowa leads ISU 63-16-2 including the last 13. ISU last defeated Iowa in 2004 I believe.

Throw in Iowas recent financial commitment(following PSU/Cael blueprint) Iowa will be just fine against Iowa State. Catching PSU is the goal that 80% of the state has, the rest are ISU fans obsessed with Iowa.

 

[NoVa Lion]

Never did I doubt Cael's recruiting I merely mentioned the difficulty of recruiting to Ames. If Iowa state was poised to pass Iowa it was under Cael not Dresser.

Iowa > ISU = PSU > Pitt. Cael knew that and that's part of the reason he left Ames

Iowa leads ISU 63-16-2 including the last 13. ISU last defeated Iowa in 2004 I believe.

Throw in Iowas recent financial commitment(following PSU/Cael blueprint) Iowa will be just fine against Iowa State. Catching PSU is the goal that 80% of the state has, the rest are ISU fans obsessed with Iowa.

Well, we have the pot calling the kettle black since you are an Iowa fan that is obviously obsessed with ISU, not to mention a bit behind the times with
Iowa > ISU = PSU. You really think ISU is on a par with PSU and Iowa is greater than both right now? If so, you haven't been paying attention lately. Some friendly advice, me thinks you should quit while you are behind before you get further behind.

 

[RoarLions1]

Never did I doubt Cael's recruiting I merely mentioned the difficulty of recruiting to Ames. If Iowa state was poised to pass Iowa it was under Cael not Dresser.

Iowa > ISU = PSU > Pitt. Cael knew that and that's part of the reason he left Ames

Iowa leads ISU 63-16-2 including the last 13. ISU last defeated Iowa in 2004 I believe.

Throw in Iowas recent financial commitment(following PSU/Cael blueprint) Iowa will be just fine against Iowa State. Catching PSU is the goal that 80% of the state has, the rest are ISU fans obsessed with Iowa.

I love history. While it doesn't earn points at the upcoming NCAA Championships, or affect the results of a team's next dual meet, it is a measure of past success, that can be used for recruiting, etc. I believe the Iowa State story is as compelling as any in the country except maybe Iowa, Okie State, and possibly (or surely) tOSU and PSU in the present landscape.

Arguably the 3rd or 4th most successful program, all-time, with 8 Championships, 17 second's, 13 third's, 7 fourth's, and 2 fifth's. Again, I believe Dresser & Co. will get results at Iowa State...though they won't be passing the Hawks anytime soon, imo. A good Iowa State team is good for college wrestling.

And re. the Pitt reference, color me confused...it simply doesn't make sense.

 

[tikk10]

Well, we have the pot calling the kettle black since you are an Iowa fan that is obviously obsessed with ISU, not to mention a bit behind the times with
Iowa > ISU = PSU. You really think ISU is on a par with PSU and Iowa is greater than both right now? If so, you haven't been paying attention lately. Some friendly advice, me thinks you should quit while you are behind before you get further behind.

Not that I agree with his point, but you missed a part of his equation NoVa. He said Iowa is to ISU what PSU is to Pitt.

 

[James P. Whitters III]

Dan Gable, Cael, Mike Land, Nate Carr,Ben Peteson,Jake Varner,Chris Taylor,Tim Krieger,Nate Gallick,Eric Voelker,.......Let me know when Pitt has assembled this resume of former wrestlers. Iowa has a proud tradition, but not without Cyclone great Dan Gable. I'm guessing Mike is just pretty new to this whole wrestling thingy.

 

[matter7172]

Dan Gable, Cael, Mike Land, Nate Carr,Ben Peteson,Jake Varner,Chris Taylor,Tim Krieger,Nate Gallick,Eric Voelker,.......Let me know when Pitt has assembled this resume of former wrestlers. Iowa has a proud tradition, but not without Cyclone great Dan Gable. I'm guessing Mike is just pretty new to this whole wrestling thingy.

Pitt's history is quite good, just not recently. The Peery years were excellent, but that was over 50 years ago. Only two wrestlers have won titles since - Santoro and Gavin.

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Things you learn on this board:

1. Recruiting big-time athletes to a tradition-free program in a remote corner of the south, in a state that doesn't produce a ton of college talent, is easier than to the program that developed the 2 best all-time college wrestlers.

2. Cael landed David Taylor and Matt Brown among others at ISU, and certainly was a big part in landing Jake Varner and David Zabriskie, but he couldn't recruit until he moved out of Iowa.

I learned the following choice nugget from the Flo Board:

Sorenson keeps getting closer to Zain including when he got “caught” in the semis and pinned. I guess getting taken down, cranked over after getting worked over, and pinned is getting caught (check out “Dan Carr”)

http://www.flowrestling.org/article/62798-ncaa-preview-predictions-149-pounds#.WekVYWhOmEc

 

[greenmanRD]

The only time Sorensen has been particularly close to Zain was in Carver Hawkeye. Outside of there he has lost 4-0, 10-1 and pin. I'm not sure he's closing the gap. Granted, Sorensen seems to be the best candidate to beat Zain at this time, but I would not be surprised if Ryan Deakin was considered that guy by March.

 

[WildTurk]

Going to turn a Cyclone Legacy recruit thread into another bash the Hawkeye's thread? Par for the course around here

 

[funkisfun12]

Going to turn a Cyclone Legacy recruit thread into another bash the Hawkeye's thread? Par for the course around here

No bashing going on as far as I can see Turk. C'mon, you saw the semi match.

 

[tikk10]

I learned the following choice nugget from the Flo Board:

Sorenson keeps getting closer to Zain including when he got “caught” in the semis and pinned. I guess getting taken down, cranked over after getting worked over, and pinned is getting caught (check out “Dan Carr”)

http://www.flowrestling.org/article/62798-ncaa-preview-predictions-149-pounds#.WekVYWhOmEc

Whoops, caught.

 

[El-Jefe]

Going to turn a Cyclone Legacy recruit thread into another bash the Hawkeye's thread? Par for the course around here

Who started that? Oh, wait, it was a hawk.

 

[WildTurk]

No bashing going on as far as I can see Turk. C'mon, you saw the semi match.

Who started that? Oh, wait, it was a hawk.

You are correct. "Bash" was a bad choice. I meant it didn't take long for a thread about an ISU legacy recruit that never had any interest in the University of Iowa to turn into a Hawk thread. My bad. Ames is now the home of the Little Hawk's btw. They aren't even Cyclones anymore!

 

[slushhead]

Who started that? Oh, wait, it was a hawk.

That was going to be my initial response, but then realized it was actually that devious Spyker . . .

 

[WildTurk]

And yes i saw the semi match. Sorensen has been squeezing the crap out of watermelons ever since i assure you!

 

[nitlion6]

Never did I doubt Cael's recruiting I merely mentioned the difficulty of recruiting to Ames. If Iowa state was poised to pass Iowa it was under Cael not Dresser.

Iowa > ISU = PSU > Pitt. Cael knew that and that's part of the reason he left Ames

Iowa leads ISU 63-16-2 including the last 13. ISU last defeated Iowa in 2004 I believe.

Throw in Iowas recent financial commitment(following PSU/Cael blueprint) Iowa will be just fine against Iowa State. Catching PSU is the goal that 80% of the state has, the rest are ISU fans obsessed with Iowa.

Last time Iowa attempted to defend their turf (Big10) they got lapped by Penn State, and surpassed by Ohio State. I think maybe those 80 percenters (actually 83 percenters) should keep their eye on the target they are capable of reaching. Premier program in the state of Iowa.

 

[Real-Lion]

I don't think landing a legacy recruit is anything other than that. Dresser hasn't exactly excelled in recruiting.

It's Dresser's coaching staff that will Recruit great wrestlers....All former Iowa guys. Think they don't know a little bit about the Brands....LOL

 

[slushhead]

It's Dresser's coaching staff that will Recruit great wrestlers....All former Iowa guys. Think they don't know a little bit about the Brands....LOL

Dresser's staff will make their guys LOVE WRESTLING !!!!!!! And they'll GO TO ALL THEIR CLASSES !!!!!!! !!!!!

 

[Chickenman Testa]

Whoops, caught.

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How did I get in this predicament? One second I was standing up, then this?

 

[Flying_Tiger]

Dresser lands another highly regarded recruit; #13 Chris Foca, (Junior, Bergen Catholic) projecting 184.