Did Hudson committ to Michicheat?

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Too much sour grapes here. This is the new way of the world, like it or not. It's dirty and it's slimy and it's currently completely within the rules, and as the poster above said, Urban Meyer has led the way. If we want to play with the big boys, we too will need to do things that we used to think were criminal acts. We are already down that path, although not to as big of a degree. We didn't care when JF brought most of Vandy's good recruits with him when he was hired, and we don't care when JF cherry-picks Pitt's few decent recruits in order to round out our class. And yet, we feign outrage at Harbaugh's tactics, but not because we are truly revolted, but rather because we see that he is making JF's job that much harder. That is what this is all about.

I don't like it, not one bit, but as the saying goes, Lead, Follow, or Get out of the Way. Meyer's leading, Harbaugh is following, and if the rest of us don't like it then we need to get out of the way.

Complete nonsense, James Franklin does not tell kids where they should attend school - they determine that themselves. Complete bull$hit that kids have HISTORICALLY maintained a "Verbal Commitment" after a school loses the coach prior to LOI Day who is recruiting them in that given year - COMPLETE BULL$HIT on your part. Your notion that James Franklin is the first Head Coach to leave a program disrupting their current recruiting class is such laughable nonsense it isn't even funny. Bear Bryant led extremely successful programs at both Kentucky (1946-1953) and aTm (1954-1957) before accepting the Alabama job, his "dream job" and alma mater, for the 1958 season (when asked why he took the Alabama job despite tremendous success at aTm with the "Junction Boys", he said, "Momma called and when momma calls you just have to come running home".). Bryant went on to coach at his self-professed "dream destination position" from 1958-1982. Johnny Majors another great example - the University of Pittsburgh put him on the map as a Head Coach where he was HC for 4 seasons 1973-1976 winning the National Championship in 1976 (his first HC job was at Iowa State where he was HC for 5 seasons from 1968-1972, but had very little success going 9-25-1 in Big 8 games and 24-30-1 overall). He left the University of Pittsburgh immediately following his National Championship season at ASWP in 1976 to take his "dream job" at the University of Tennessee (was born in Lynchburg, TN and played at UT) - he ended up coaching at UT from 1977-1992 where he only left in 1992 because he was given the choice of either resigning or be fired....he choose the former.

There are many, many, many more examples throughout College Football History of Head Coaches LEAVING programs where they have had tremendous success and put them on the map to take their DREAM DESTINATION JOB and when they left putting their former employers RECRUITING CLASS into disarray! Your completely FULL OF $HIT as usual that James Franklin is the first Head Coach in college football history to leave a program where he had his initial HC success in favor of his "dream destination job" and the notion that Franklin has any ability to tell kids that they need to maintain their NON-BINDING "Verbal Commitment" to a program losing their Head Coach when the kids themselves have no desire to do such a thing when the CONDITIONS THEY MADE THEIR VERBAL CONDITIONS UNDER have changed RADICALLY. Franklin has NO RIGHT, OR CONTROL, OVER THESE KIDS DECISION in such circumstances and 100% of the players that "followed him" to PSU did so of their own FREE, AND RIGHTFUL, CHOICE you lying f'ing tool scUM-loving troll. What demonstrates your absurd hypocrisy in regards to your bull$hit claims as to Coach Franklin being the first Head Coach in history to leave a Major College Football program to go to another program or the timing of such a choice and its impact on recruiting - here is a direct citation about Jim "Uncle Creepy" Harbaugh's tenure prior to taking the Stanford Head Coaching job:

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University of San Diego (2004–2006) - note this was Harbaugh's first ever Head Coaching assignment was the Raider's QB coach in 2002-2003 prior to taking USD job.

Prior to the 2004 season, Harbaugh was named head football coach at the University of San Diego. In his first year, he directed the Toreros to an overall mark of 7–4, including 5 straight wins to end the season. The following year, the team improved to 11–1 and won the 2005 Pioneer Football League championship. In 2006, USD again went 11–1 winning their second consecutive Pioneer League title in the process. Harbaugh is widely considered the greatest coach in the history of the university.
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Guess when he announced he was leaving to take the Stanford Head Coaching job? You got it late-December 2006 a month and a half prior to LOI Day!

OTOH, Creepy "Uncle Jim" Harbaugh is UNQUESTIONABLY the first Major College Coach to ask a recruit and his family if he can show up at their house at midnight on a work/school weekday, "sleepover" in their child's bedroom and have their child skip school the next morning so he can drive to AA with stalker Creepy "Uncle Jim" Harbaugh! Embarrassing the way you scUM-loving trolls are attempting to "spin" this as innovative recruiting, rather than embarrassing, inappropriate, disrespectful CRASS BEHAVIOR and even resorting to absurd "rationalizing" comparisons to Penn State's Head Coach's actions via outright LIES claiming he is the first HC in college football history to leave a program where he had his initial HC success in favor of his "dream destination" program and job! You hypocritical, lying scUM-loving trolls are really too much - some kind of arrogant POS make bull$hit up about others to justify your own douche-bag's sorry behavior. What an @sshole you are.

 

[Westcoast24]

Complete nonsense, James Franklin does not tell kids where they should attend school - they determine that themselves. Complete bull$hit that kids have HISTORICALLY maintained a "Verbal Commitment" after a school loses the coach prior to LOI Day who is recruiting them in that given year - COMPLETE BULL$HIT on your part. Your notion that James Franklin is the first Head Coach to leave a program disrupting their current recruiting class is such laughable nonsense it isn't even funny. Bear Bryant led extremely successful programs at both Kentucky (1946-1953) and aTm (1954-1957) before accepting the Alabama job, his "dream job" and alma mater, for the 1958 season (when asked why he took the Alabama job despite tremendous success at aTm with the "Junction Boys", he said, "Momma called and when momma calls you just have to come running home".). Bryant went on to coach at his self-professed "dream destination position" from 1958-1982. Johnny Majors another great example - the University of Pittsburgh put him on the map as a Head Coach where he was HC for 4 seasons 1973-1976 winning the National Championship in 1976 (his first HC job was at Iowa State where he was HC for 5 seasons from 1968-1972, but had very little success going 9-25-1 in Big 8 games and 24-30-1 overall). He left the University of Pittsburgh immediately following his National Championship season at ASWP in 1976 to take his "dream job" at the University of Tennessee (was born in Lynchburg, TN and played at UT) - he ended up coaching at UT from 1977-1992 where he only left in 1992 because he was given the choice of either resigning or be fired....he choose the former.

There are many, many, many more examples throughout College Football History of Head Coaches LEAVING programs where they have had tremendous success and put them on the map to take their DREAM DESTINATION JOB and when they left putting their former employers RECRUITING CLASS into disarray! Your completely FULL OF $HIT as usual that James Franklin is the first Head Coach in college football history to leave a program where he had his initial HC success in favor of his "dream destination job" and the notion that Franklin has any ability to tell kids that they need to maintain their NON-BINDING "Verbal Commitment" to a program losing their Head Coach when the kids themselves have no desire to do such a thing when the CONDITIONS THEY MADE THEIR VERBAL CONDITIONS UNDER have changed RADICALLY. Franklin has NO RIGHT, OR CONTROL, OVER THESE KIDS DECISION in such circumstances and 100% of the players that "followed him" to PSU did so of their own FREE, AND RIGHTFUL, CHOICE you lying f'ing tool scUM-loving troll. What demonstrates your absurd hypocrisy in regards to your bull$hit claims as to Coach Franklin being the first Head Coach in history to leave a Major College Football program to go to another program or the timing of such a choice and its impact on recruiting - here is a direct citation about Jim "Uncle Creepy" Harbaugh's tenure prior to taking the Stanford Head Coaching job:

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University of San Diego (2004–2006) - note this was Harbaugh's first ever Head Coaching assignment was the Raider's QB coach in 2002-2003 prior to taking USD job.

Prior to the 2004 season, Harbaugh was named head football coach at the University of San Diego. In his first year, he directed the Toreros to an overall mark of 7–4, including 5 straight wins to end the season. The following year, the team improved to 11–1 and won the 2005 Pioneer Football League championship. In 2006, USD again went 11–1 winning their second consecutive Pioneer League title in the process. Harbaugh is widely considered the greatest coach in the history of the university.
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Guess when he announced he was leaving to take the Stanford Head Coaching job? You got it late-December 2006 a month and a half prior to LOI Day!

OTOH, Creepy "Uncle Jim" Harbaugh is UNQUESTIONABLY the first Major College Coach to ask a recruit and his family if he can show up at their house at midnight on a work/school weekday, "sleepover" in their child's bedroom and have their child skip school the next morning so he can drive to AA with stalker Creepy "Uncle Jim" Harbaugh! Embarrassing the way you scUM-loving trolls are attempting to "spin" this as innovative recruiting, rather than embarrassing, inappropriate, disrespectful CRASS BEHAVIOR and even resorting to absurd "rationalizing" comparisons to Penn State's Head Coach's actions via outright LIES claiming he is the first HC in college football history to leave a program where he had his initial HC success in favor of his "dream destination" program and job! You hypocritical, lying scUM-loving trolls are really too much - some kind of arrogant POS make bull$hit up about others to justify your own douche-bag's sorry behavior. What an @sshole you are.

My goodness. The guy never said Franklin was the first coach to ever do such a thing. The hypocrisy in your post is incredible. Good stuff.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

So long as the university president and the AD stay on the sidelines regarding recruiting tactics, these things will continue. And they aren't going to pay Harbaugh the money he is making and then get in the way of him doing the job they hired him to do.

The day is coming when some college teams will have to decide if they are going to be semi-pro, or collegiate. The SEC and some select big money programs like Michigan and OSU will opt for the former, and they will be the teams playing for the national championship and playing on ABC on Saturday nights. The rest will devolve into traditional college football. When this inevitably happens, it will be best for everyone, as the charade of having rules that nobody follows and nobody enforces can finally be done away with.

Doubtful, so how many teams are going to be in this "semi-pro" league? What are they all going to play each other twice a year to determine the winners of "divisions" that are created via geographic regions? Here is the problem with your awesome idea genius - this league will continue to "atrophy" the same way Major College Football has "atrophied" from first being one division, D1, into two separate levels, D1-A and D1-AA, both made of roughly 120-140 schools with "fringe" schools between the two divisions (top-end of D1-AA and bottom-end of D1-A from a "competitive" standpoint going back-&-forth between the two over the years). Then, thanks to the "Bowl Coalition" of certain Conference Commissioners which would go on to become known as an Organization called "The BCS", D1-A was further bifurcated into the current P5/BCS Conferences (64 schools in these conferences). But here is what your missing about where we are now....

Half of the schools in the "P5/BCS Conferences" have terrible economics based on their own attendance and economics -- and the bowl and viewership numbers this year quite clearly demonstrate that "interest", live attendance and "viewership" demographics across the board are going the wrong direction for "BCS College Football" (even the playoff AND championship game numbers were way off in the WRONG DIRECTION for just this year vs last year....and this is a trend that has been persistent for many, many, years running at this point! ESPN, whose revenues and financial health is driven by College Football more than any other sport is showing the IDENTICAL deterioration in economics and viewership - not a "coincidence" my friend). So after this "semi-pro" league bifurcates themselves yet again to the largest most commercially profitable segment of the "BCS Schools" (e.g., the one's most successful on the field), they will just be creating another future "bifurcation" as they will now create another "winners and losers" league as the absolute top-end of the "BCS semi-pro league" routinely dominates the "have not" bottom-half of the "BCS semi-pro league".....this will only persist for a short amount of time until the "bottom-half" of the leagues fan and revenue base disappears because no fan base is going to pay the kind of money you are suggesting for "seasons tickets" to go watch their team lose all the time, never make the "playoffs" for the new semi-pro league, etc..... So you're new wonderful idea "semi-pro" league would just, in REALITY, one be just another step in the progression of "College Football" bifurcating itself out of business and ultimately out of existence except a sustainable "college league" that is based on actual STUDENT-ATHLETES competing against other REAL STUDENT-ATHLETES for a "True College Championship" via a post-season school-sanctioned playoff like they do in every other college-sponsored EXTRACURRICULAR college sport and league!

 

[Woodpecker]

Jim "Ghost" Harbaugh introduces the latest recruiting innovation:

Is that like putting them on Ignore?

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

My goodness. The guy never said Franklin was the first coach to ever do such a thing. The hypocrisy in your post is incredible. Good stuff.

Your full of it -- he didn't you arrogant, hypocritical, scUM-lover! Go read the post - he compares Harbaugh's disgraceful FIRSTS in the recruiting game directly to Franklin and uses this comparison to JUSTIFY Harbaugh's disgraceful, inappropriate, unprofessional and crass actions by claiming that he was only following Franklin's lead - which is a complete and total BS COMPARISON and amounts to nothing but a rationalization of Harbaugh's BEHAVIOR via an outright bs lie that has NO BASIS IN REALITY you POS arrogant, excuse-anything scUM's coach does, scUM-loving putz!

 

[Westcoast24]

Your full of $hit he didn't you arrogant, hypocritical, scUM-loving @sshole! Go read the post - he compares Harbaugh's disgraceful FIRSTS in the recruiting game directly to Franklin and uses this comparison to JUSTIFY Harbaugh's disgraceful, inappropriate, unprofessional and crass actions by claiming that he was only following Franklin's lead - which is a complete and total BULL$HIT COMPARISON and amounts to nothing but a rationalization of Harbaugh's BEHAVIOR via an outright bull$hit lie that has NO BASIS IN REALITY you phucking, POS arrogant, excuse-anthing scUM's coach does, scUM-loving putz!

 

[Go M&B]

Your full of $hit he didn't you arrogant, hypocritical, scUM-loving @sshole! Go read the post - he compares Harbaugh's disgraceful FIRSTS in the recruiting game directly to Franklin and uses this comparison to JUSTIFY Harbaugh's disgraceful, inappropriate, unprofessional and crass actions by claiming that he was only following Franklin's lead - which is a complete and total BULL$HIT COMPARISON and amounts to nothing but a rationalization of Harbaugh's BEHAVIOR via an outright bull$hit lie that has NO BASIS IN REALITY you phucking, POS arrogant, excuse-anthing scUM's coach does, scUM-loving putz!

you're going to stroke out during one of these posts... Holy craziness.

 

[LaJolla Lion]

Does anyone actually read his rants? I haven't in years.

 

[Art]

you're going to stroke out during one of these posts... Holy craziness.

Nah, never happen. Cast iron brain components.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

you're going to stroke out during one of these posts... Holy craziness.

Yea, Holy Craziness Batman - what Harbaugh did here is not crass, unprofessional and inappropriate....it's just "innovative recruiting"..... Whatever you say BroFessor. You POS scUM trolls crack me up!

 

[Art]

Does anyone actually read his rants? I haven't in years.

I skim them. Content never changes, though the language occasionally does. Seems to have recently developed a jones for variations on the theme of "bro-". Another reason not to like Will Ferrell.

 

[Westcoast24]

I skim them. Content never changes, though the language occasionally does. Seems to have recently developed a jones for variations on the theme of "bro-". Another reason not to like Will Ferrell.

He just likes the Geico commercials with the "bro" guys working out. Entertaining

 

[bmw199]

Does anyone actually read his rants? I haven't in years.

I skim as well, it does crack me up though when I see 3 500 word posts in a row with half the letters capitalized regardless of content.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

He just likes the Geico commercials with the "bro" guys working out. Entertaining

The hypocrisy and bull$hit, made-up "spin" and rhetoric of the scUM / Creepy Harb-o trolls is entertaining in a nearly identical way that the GEICO Commercials are - your posts are a perfect example Teddy TrollSevellte.

 

[bamasota]

Doubtful, so how many teams are going to be in this "semi-pro" league? What are they all going to play each other twice a year to determine the winners of "divisions" that are created via geographic regions? Here is the problem with your awesome idea genius - this league will continue to "atrophy" the same way Major College Football has "atrophied" from first being one division, D1, into two separate levels, D1-A and D1-AA, both made of roughly 120-140 schools with "fringe" schools between the two divisions (top-end of D1-AA and bottom-end of D1-A from a "competitive" standpoint going back-&-forth between the two over the years). Then, thanks to the "Bowl Coalition" of certain Conference Commissioners which would go on to become known as an Organization called "The BCS", D1-A was further bifurcated into the current P5/BCS Conferences (64 schools in these conferences). But here is what your missing about where we are now....

Half of the schools in the "P5/BCS Conferences" have terrible economics based on their own attendance and economics -- and the bowl and viewership numbers this year quite clearly demonstrate that "interest", live attendance and "viewership" demographics across the board are going the wrong direction for "BCS College Football" (even the playoff AND championship game numbers were way off in the WRONG DIRECTION for just this year vs last year....and this is a trend that has been persistent for many, many, years running at this point! ESPN, whose revenues and financial health is driven by College Football more than any other sport is showing the IDENTICAL deterioration in economics and viewership - not a "coincidence" my friend). So after this "semi-pro" league bifurcates themselves yet again to the largest most commercially profitable segment of the "BCS Schools" (e.g., the one's most successful on the field), they will just be creating another future "bifurcation" as they will now create another "winners and losers" league as the absolute top-end of the "BCS semi-pro league" routinely dominates the "have not" bottom-half of the "BCS semi-pro league".....this will only persist for a short amount of time until the "bottom-half" of the leagues fan and revenue base disappears because no fan base is going to pay the kind of money you are suggesting for "seasons tickets" to go watch their team lose all the time, never make the "playoffs" for the new semi-pro league, etc..... So you're new wonderful idea "semi-pro" league would just, in REALITY, one be just another step in the progression of "College Football" bifurcating itself out of business and ultimately out of existence except a sustainable "college league" that is based on actual STUDENT-ATHLETES competing against other REAL STUDENT-ATHLETES for a "True College Championship" via a post-season school-sanctioned playoff like they do in every other college-sponsored EXTRACURRICULAR college sport and league!

I see that today's special word is "bifurcate".

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

I see that today's special word is "bifurcate".

Yes, kinda like the way you're personality is bifurcated into a Bama and Minnyhaha troll BroFessor.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

I see that today's special word is "bifurcate".

In regards to antonym.....why does Minnyhaha's wrestling team straight suck so bad? I mean, not just bad, but straight nationally non-competitive, sucks donkey dong bad.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Hope Hudson visits this weekend especially since Pryys was at Stanford last weekend and will likely visit UCLA as well. We may lose him so Hudson is an even bigger priority (if he doesn't commit to Michigan this week and cancel his visit). Did we actually refuse his verbal some time ago?

 

[bmw199]

Hope Hudson visits this weekend especially since Pryys was at Stanford last weekend and will likely visit UCLA as well. We may lose him so Hudson is an even bigger priority (if he doesn't commit to Michigan this week and cancel his visit). Did we actually refuse his verbal some time ago?

You mean Pryts? Where did you see he visited anywhere else? He recently said he was firmly committed to Penn State.

 

[ChiTownLion]

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

You mean Pryts? Where did you see he visited anywhere else? He recently said he was firmly committed to Penn State.

Sorry - was typing on my phone - yes, Pryts.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

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This is certainly good news - seems he was a big fan of Shoop. Need to get him on campus and familiar with the new coach and Pry's vision for him.

 

[lionlurker]

I am not fearful of losing Pryts. His twitter page is still loaded with PSU stuff, and with the family connection and all, he is very tied in.

 

[bmw199]

I am not fearful of losing Pryts. His twitter page is still loaded with PSU stuff, and with the family connection and all, he is very tied in.

And with his gf at Kent State he's not going to California.

 

[ChiTownLion]

Surprise! "Ghost" Harbaugh sets up another innovative play-date.

Where are all the Michigan fans who tried to convince us that Harbaugh's sleepovers were just a big practical joke designed to troll the college football world? lol

 

[lionlurker]

He is a weird dude. No wonder SF wanted him gone.

 

[psu00]

It's definitely bad. And maybe next year it will cost them, but probably not. Each of these kids is a prima donna who thinks it's the other guy who will get cut loose, not them. Not even their parents can see reality.

Harbaugh is an ass, but what about the kid who is committed for a year and then the month before LOI day decides to flip. What is the difference?

True but 2 wrongs don't make a right. . I have no problem with coaches recruiting players until they sign. My issue on that side of things is when kids commit to a program- leading to 'reserving a spot' in the class and having coaches plan recruiting strategy thinking the kid is coming- and then at the last minute the kid flips and leaves a coach/ program with a hole to fill and no real time to fill a need that they thought was taken care of.

On the flip side, I find it inexcusable for coaches like Harbaugh (or any other) to offer a kid a spot, have the kid commit, and then right as signing day approaches cut them loose with no real time to get another fit school/ team wise. I find it even more objectionable (if possible) for that coach to not man up and speak to the recruit but rather just ignore them and hope they get the message and move on this late in the process.

The NCAA can end all this by allowing kids to sign before an arbitrary day in February. That way the kid signs or he doesn't and the coaches can plan accordingly and on the flip side there's no games by coaches pulling scholarships that had been accepted for months at the last second leaving a kid hanging with few options late in the process.

 

[lionlurker]

The big-time schools and coaches don't want an early signing period, so it won't happen.

 

[Franklin_Restores_TheTradition]

Surprise! "Ghost" Harbaugh sets up another innovative play-date.

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Where are all the Michigan fans who tried to convince us that Harbaugh's sleepovers were just a big practical joke designed to troll the college football world? lol

Oh don't worry, they'll all show up to now explain to us how this is all Coach Franklin's fault and Creepy "Uncle Jim" Har-bow is just responding in kind and doing what he has to do.....blah, blah, blah.....endless rationalizations and justification for this ridiculous, unprofessional crass behavior which is, or "should be", a complete embarrassment to his employer, the University of Michigan, who is paying him how many millions to be represented in this embarrassing fashion? Unreal and honestly sad. (cue all those bull$hit "leaders and legends" and endless tO$U / scUM videos the btn likes to run......yawn).

 

[Chickenman Testa]

you're going to stroke out during one of these posts... Holy craziness.

He's coming to join Elizabeth:

 

[chethejet]

As to Hudson, He has an in home visit with the Michigan coaches tomorrow evening. I believe he is considering three programs right now but I can't tell you what is going to happen. He has kept things pretty low key but Michigan will push for a commit tomorrow evening. Personally I think he likes Michigan but is not sure he wants to be far from home for family reasons. That issue is keeping Pitt in the game so to speak. Two months ago I was pretty sure he would commit to yinz. Not sure what happened but rumors of slow playing this recruit was not the thing to do if that was the reason. Three top recruits in WPIAL are Hudson, Sanders and Hamlin. Hudson is a really good get.

FWIW: Hamlin I think is a Pitt lean. OSU is coming hard and is pressing him. If Hamlin commits to them, they won't offer Miller a Pitt recruit. Right now that is the thinking but he has a visit to PSU so you never know.