divorce rates for many nations
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why get married when the divorce rate is over 90%? i wonder if there is some kind of tax benefit to being divorced. South Korea is a surprise to me. India, I knew, as many marriages are "arranged" and infidelity is not as big of a problem. In some middle eastern nations, you are considered "selfish" if you are a wealthy man and do not have several wives. You aren't "sharing the wealth". So, again, once married why divorce?
Hey, I’m married 43 years. I’m very happy. Ask my wife.
Maybe my favorite post of all time.
That is the correct question.
Since so few are getting married, I wonder if for 1 mm marriages this year, there were 930k divorces. Or 930k/1 mm.
If so that is a bad number. Just a thought.
The countries with the high divorce rates are not surprising to me. Marriage is a human contrived relationship. It is not natural for human beings to be locked into lifetime commitments without a way out. I would go insane. 3-5 year contracts are the way to go.
Spain and Portugal also have low marriage rates too. So you combine low marriage rates with high divorce rates it would appear they don’t seem to like each other too much. Or they just can’t live with each other. They also have very low fertility rates. As it stands now these two countries are committing demographic suicide.
I've posted on this several times. When I was in Russia adopting my daughter, it was well known there that Russia's population has dropped like a stone and is getting worse. In fact, it is why they've shut down foreign adoptions. They also have created a procreation holiday complete with a bonus payment for couples that get pregnant.
What was interesting is that the Russians also point to the rest of Europe. It isn't a Russian problem but a Caucasian problem. White people have stopped having babies. Europe is addressing this by swinging open the immigration gates and is being overwhelmed by middle easterners and North Africans. Thus, creating quite a culture clash in France, Belgium, Netherlands, and the UK. The USA has open the borders for central and South Americans (Indians as well). An issue is the they share their predominant Jedeo Christian culture with the USA's so the culture clash is less. But specific to Russia, who wants to immigrate there?
It’s also happening in the more prosperous Asian countries. Japan, South Korea, Taiwan and China as well. South Korea is particularly bad. A fertility rate of less that 1. And Taiwan and China are in the 1.2 range. Both have low marriage rates too. And as far as I know they don’t have much immigration going on. I was also surprised to see that India now has a fertility rate below replacement level
The media depicts raising a child as being complete slave labor. Just awful. With easy access to birth control and abortions, the number of people that want the rigor of raising kids keeps dropping.
The Asian countries are worse than the European countries with incredibly low birth rates. Caucasians and Asians are choosing extinction. Even South America is experiencing precipitous drops in birth rates. You start to wonder if the world is choosing extinction. I know it sounds crazy with all the talk about overpopulation, but the actual reality is that most of the world is choosing to reproduce at rates far less than a replacement level.
It‘s not the media. Have you been to a grocery store on a Saturday afternoon lately? There are spoiled little brats running everywhere unsupervised. Not a real encouragement for people to have more kids.
Highly unreliable statistics and apples/oranges problem. In some places it might be a survey saying "were you ever divorced" and in others it might be "how many times have you been divorced." Not really sure what you can say about it except that where women have rights, divorce rates are higher. In countries that stone women to death for leaving their husbands, divorce rates are lower.
Even the word "divorce" is complex for statistics. Some places there's no such thing as divorce but annulment is pretty common. (ask Henry VIII who was never actually divorced)
BTW I'm a big fan of marriage (though I wouldn't force anybody to do it). I've been married almost 40 years and I highly recommend it if you can get lucky and find the person you want to spend your life with. And raising kids (in partnership with a woman I love) was absolutely the most fun and meaningful thing I've done in my life. I wouldn't trade it for anything. If I die tomorrow I die happy for having gotten to be parent of three wonderful human beings.
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All downhill since the Inquisition stopped using the Auto-da-fe.
Seriously, Spain, Portugal and Ireland are no longer Catholic dominated societies. Catholic church is still loved and revered through most of Europe (not Ireland so much right now) but it is loved for its history and holidays and traditions. European Catholics are like American Catholics -- they love the Pope and their priests but they don't really obey them any more -- if they ever did.
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It's really just a reflection of higher standards of living around the world. People have more disposable income and contraception in its various forms is cheaper than ever.
It's a good thing in the sense that a higher percentage of the babies born around the world are wanted. But it's a bad thing for the economies of many nations which won't have enough workers and incomes to support elderly populations.
Funny, most of my childhood the world worried about overpopulation and mass starvation but now we worry about totally different things.
This stat is bogus. What they are reporting here are the number of registered divorces (across the entire married population) in a year per 100 new marriage licenses issued issued in that same year. Marriages cratered and divorces increased during the pandemic so the number looks insane. The percent of marriages that end in divorce is much much lower.
A Jewish buddy of mine from Connecticut fell in love with an amazing Basque/Catholic woman while doing a stint in Spain for the beverage company he worked for. I used to commute on the train to NYC with them together or 1:1 sometimes.
Great love story that would end in divorce, but what stuck with me is that the uncle of my buddy's bride told him the night before the wedding " in our culture you can (sleep with) whoever you want, you are just not allowed to fall in love with them."
I live in an area with a significant Mexican population, and that sentiment may hold true for many as well. Paternalistic societies are shifting in more developed nations...but 85% in Spain is nuts
Great love story that would end in divorce, but what stuck with me is that the uncle of my buddy's bride told him the night before the wedding " in our culture you can (sleep with) whoever you want, you are just not allowed to fall in love with them."
I live in an area with a significant Mexican population, and that sentiment may hold true for many as well. Paternalistic societies are shifting in more developed nations...but 85% in Spain is nuts
Wow those last 4 or 5 are shockingly high. The U.S. is bad enough in the 40s. 50% and higher is really pathetic. I think the U.S. used to be close to 50%. Perhaps the drop in the U.S. percentage is because less people are marrying?
I agree with you. I have become interested in the subject since Elon Musk started speaking about it last year. My concern is the simple math of it all based on the fact that a stable population requires each woman to have 2.1 children. Look at South Korea - current fertility rate is 0.84 births per woman. If this continues for one generation, it is decimation of the population. A few generations leads to extinction of the country. Singapore is 1.1, Japan is 1.34. Europe is awful too - Italy 1.24, Germany 1.5.. nobody produces a replacement rate of fertility in Europe. The US is down to 1.64. Outside of Africa and a few other areas of the world, the rest of the world is sub-replacement level.
Some very cynical views of marriage posted in this thread. I wonder if that is simply a thread about divorce rates attracting several divorced people or those with bad experiences in relationships. I get that the views are changing but I think in general the views posted in this sample are not fully representative of our population.
BTW, I married a bit later in life having fully enjoyed my single days and understanding a little more what I was looking for in a marriage. My parents were together since they were teenagers. Perhaps it is more of generation difference in approach.
BTW, I married a bit later in life having fully enjoyed my single days and understanding a little more what I was looking for in a marriage. My parents were together since they were teenagers. Perhaps it is more of generation difference in approach.
So true. Most people don’t realize, in the eyes of our legal system in the U.S., the moment you say I do is the moment you have agreed to risk up to 50% of your future net worth. Unless you have a prenup or an iron clad Trust agreement protecting your assets.
I have nothing against marriage. I just think most people never take into account the huge financial risks involved for both parties. Which is why I have taken precautions protecting my young son by placing his inheritance inside an iron clad Trust fund. A potential divorce can’t touch those assets.
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