Do you support restaurants who ban children from entering or eating in their etablishments?

[TheGLOV]

https://pos.toasttab.com/blog/child-free-restaurants

Nothing worse than a screaming baby to ruin the mood when you are dining in a restaurant. Your "down time" should be free of these types of distractions while you enjoy your food!

Can't tell you how many times 'mothers' have just let their kids carry-on, run wild, scream their lungs out and absolutely ruin a meal.

Or:

We were all young once and we tend to forget that.

Some parents cannot afford a babysitter or have nobody to turn to when they want to go out and have a good meal cooked for them so just put up with it and try to understand it more.

Post your thoughts on the matter.

You horror stories and your approval stories.

 

[MJG-90]

They should ban the parents who can’t control their children. I was young once but my dad would have tanned my backside on the spot if I behaved the way I’ve seen kids behave in restaurants. I said yes, but it does depend on the restaurant. Fine dining - yes, sports bar - I don’t care.

 

[interrobang]

Why not? It's their restaurant.

 

[Thomas1945]

When my children and later my grandchildren were little I purposely took them out to restaurants to annoy people. Being a giving and sharing person I thought spreading out the pain and aggravation was the only fair thing to do.

 

[paulrandythomas]

Why not? It's their restaurant.

Agree, if the owner makes that type of decision and you disagree, go eat somewhere else.

 

[GregInPitt]

Yes. We typically ask to be seated in the "non crying" section anyway......

 

[Keyser Soze 16801]

Parents should simply take little kids to places that are age appropriate. Taking little kids to places that involve long drawn out meals isn't fair to the kids or other patrons. Take the kids to Chipotle and have a date night just the two of you some other time at a swanky place.

 

[Aardvark86]

Depends on the restaurant. If I’m gonna charge two bills a head I want the heads to leave satisfied

 

[Keyser Soze 16801]

If I’m gonna charge two bills a head I want the heads to leave satisfied

That's what she said

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

Kids are welcome at our restaurant. Parents that are kids or any adults that are irresponsible and cannot manage their children or themselves are show the several exits when they fail to respect other customers.

 

[KnightWhoSaysNit]

https://pos.toasttab.com/blog/child-free-restaurants


Some parents cannot afford a babysitter or have nobody to turn to when they want to go out and have a good meal cooked for them so just put up with it and try to understand it more.

This would be the expectation of a socialist:

I want something (eat out). I can't afford it (if I pay a sitter). Others should therefore subsidize me or sacrifice something (a pleasant meal that they paid for) so that I can get what I want.

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

This would be the expectation of a socialist:

I want something (eat out). I can't afford it (if I pay a sitter). Others should therefore subsidize me or sacrifice something (a pleasant meal that they paid for) so that I can get what I want.

I have eaten in the finest restaurants, in Germany, Holland, France, Canada etc. All Democratic Socialist countries which are also capitalistic with less family business failures and bankruptcies... and your post is baseless and pure crap.

 

[NittanyLionRoar]

On this topic, how is a brewery or winery any different than a bar? Why, when I go to one of these places, are there toddlers crawling all over everything?

 

[Columbus_Lion]

It’s not the kids, it’s the parents.

As a long-time server in my youth, parents abuse restaurants. Kids throw food everywhere and parents don’t clean up and then don’t leave a tip.

 

[psuro]

1000 % yes. They should be able ban kids.

 

[Cletus11]

I have eaten in the finest restaurants, in Germany, Holland, France, Canada etc. All Democratic Socialist countries which are also capitalistic with less family business failures and bankruptcies... and your post is baseless and pure crap.

and you don't see kids at fine dining in Europe. they don't have to ban them as parents won't take them (as they know better) or if they do, will be told if they misbehave to get out. If you tell a parent to get out at a restaruant today, there are some that will sue you or go all over social media and say how horrible your restaurant is. That is the difference.

And the second issue with your sentence is if you cannot afford a babysitter, than you cannot afford 'fine dining'. If a restaurant wants to have a no kids policy, then they should be allowed. There are plenty of restaurants with really good food that you can take kids to that are affordable.

 

[Nitt1300]

 

[wex18]

Last night I was eating in a restaurant in Durham, N.C. A couple came in with a young child, who immediately started screaming before they were even seated. The parents asked the waitress if they could move to a table outside so they wouldn't disturb the other customers.

When they got up to move outside, I noticed the father was wearing a Penn State hockey T-shirt. (He is a graduate, and his father attended around the same time I did.) My Ohio State-graduate wife said a Michigan guy would never be that considerate.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

and you don't see kids at fine dining in Europe. they don't have to ban them as parents won't take them (as they know better) or if they do, will be told if they misbehave to get out. If you tell a parent to get out at a restaruant today, there are some that will sue you or go all over social media and say how horrible your restaurant is. That is the difference.

And the second issue with your sentence is if you cannot afford a babysitter, than you cannot afford 'fine dining'. If a restaurant wants to have a no kids policy, then they should be allowed. There are plenty of restaurants with really good food that you can take kids to that are affordable.

They allow dogs though (in Europe).

 

[Nitt1300]

They allow dogs though (in Europe).

dogs > people

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

https://pos.toasttab.com/blog/child-free-restaurants

Nothing worse than a screaming baby to ruin the mood when you are dining in a restaurant. Your "down time" should be free of these types of distractions while you enjoy your food!

Can't tell you how many times 'mothers' have just let their kids carry-on, run wild, scream their lungs out and absolutely ruin a meal.

Or:

We were all young once and we tend to forget that.

Some parents cannot afford a babysitter or have nobody to turn to when they want to go out and have a good meal cooked for them so just put up with it and try to understand it more.

Post your thoughts on the matter.

You horror stories and your approval stories.

It depends. I mean, when I go out for a special occasion or something, I generally don't see a lot of kids (most kids aren't into fine dining or the latest hot restaurant in DC). That said, I don't have a big problem either way. As a parent, if my kid starts making a scene or misbehaving in any restaurant, I remove him/her and return if/when appropriate. When I see other parents having issues with kids, I give a 'sorry - I know what that is like' look.

One of the wineries we belong to in VA went to 'adults only' as their policy some time ago; we thought about cancelling. The wine is good enough, and they're trying to provide a quiet, relaxing atmosphere for their customers, but the best part about the property was that it had a ginormous outdoor space that kids loved to play in. We decided to keep the membership since our other wine membership is kid friendly, so when it's just the adults we go to one, when we have the kids, we go to the other. I'm fine with a restaurant not wanting to allow kids to eat there - but, also get where parents are coming from.

 

[Nitwit]

I’m all in favor of high end restaurants banning children. Having said that I think it’s important to train children how to dine appropriately, That means learning to behave, eat, and enjoy a variety of foods such as seafoods, shellfish, ethnic foods, organ meats, etc. There are too many adults in this world who never touch sushi, Thai, raw oysters, etc., who go through life eating like children. They are depriving themselves of experiencing different cultures and cuisines.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

I’m all in favor of high end restaurants banning children. Having said that I think it’s important to train children how to dine appropriately, That means learning to behave, eat, and enjoy a variety of foods such as seafoods, shellfish, ethnic foods, organ meats, etc. There are too many adults in this world who never touch sushi, Thai, raw oysters, etc., who go through life eating like children. They are depriving themselves of experiencing different cultures and cuisines.

Off topic slightly but was listening to Dave Chang's podcast/interview with Wylie Dufresne and they determined the greatest American culinary contribution to the world was short order cooking and BBQ. Thought that was interesting...

 

[psu1969a]

If we are eating in a fine dining restaurant for example: in State College - The Tavern, in Harrisburg/Hershey - Gabreille's, The Hotel, Alfred's Victorian, in Altoona - Fanelli's, Allegro, etc., there is nothing that ruins a meal as a crying toddler/infant, a cantankerous child, or a just plain brat. Only thing worst is a boisterous drunk.

 

[MtNittany]

I’m all in favor of high end restaurants banning children. Having said that I think it’s important to train children how to dine appropriately, That means learning to behave, eat, and enjoy a variety of foods such as seafoods, shellfish, ethnic foods, organ meats, etc. There are too many adults in this world who never touch sushi, Thai, raw oysters, etc., who go through life eating like children. They are depriving themselves of experiencing different cultures and cuisines.

Sorry, but this is a really dumb post. Excruciatingly dumb actually. People that eat burgers and fries aren't any more likely to have misbehaved kids than those that eat shellfish and sushi. Sheesh. WTF.

 

[Aardvark86]

It depends. I mean, when I go out for a special occasion or something, I generally don't see a lot of kids (most kids aren't into fine dining or the latest hot restaurant in DC). That said, I don't have a big problem either way. As a parent, if my kid starts making a scene or misbehaving in any restaurant, I remove him/her and return if/when appropriate. When I see other parents having issues with kids, I give a 'sorry - I know what that is like' look.

One of the wineries we belong to in VA went to 'adults only' as their policy some time ago; we thought about cancelling. The wine is good enough, and they're trying to provide a quiet, relaxing atmosphere for their customers, but the best part about the property was that it had a ginormous outdoor space that kids loved to play in. We decided to keep the membership since our other wine membership is kid friendly, so when it's just the adults we go to one, when we have the kids, we go to the other. I'm fine with a restaurant not wanting to allow kids to eat there - but, also get where parents are coming from.

Linden?

 

[Aardvark86]

If we are eating in a fine dining restaurant for example: in State College - The Tavern, in Harrisburg/Hershey - Gabreille's, The Hotel, Alfred's Victorian, in Altoona - Fanelli's, Allegro, etc., there is nothing that ruins a meal as a crying toddler/infant, a cantankerous child, or a just plain brat. Only thing worst is a boisterous drunk.

I proposed to my wife at alfreds.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Linden?

No - Greenhill (in Middleburg).

 

[psu1969a]

I have eaten in the finest restaurants, in Germany, Holland, France, Canada etc. All Democratic Socialist countries which are also capitalistic with less family business failures and bankruptcies... and your post is baseless and pure crap.

B.S. and I don't mean bachelor of science. Children in those countries are not taken to fine restaurants unless they behave.

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

On this topic, how is a brewery or winery any different than a bar? Why, when I go to one of these places, are there toddlers crawling all over everything?

Man up and ask the owners. As a restaurant owner, I hate the ball-less, so called patrons, that when asked if everything is to their liking say "Yes" then afterward post otherwise in the security blanket at home. Just ask and see what the owner(s) says. After all, it's his/her or their place.

 

[Rip_E_2_Joe_PA]

and you don't see kids at fine dining in Europe. they don't have to ban them as parents won't take them (as they know better) or if they do, will be told if they misbehave to get out. If you tell a parent to get out at a restaruant today, there are some that will sue you or go all over social media and say how horrible your restaurant is. That is the difference.

And the second issue with your sentence is if you cannot afford a babysitter, than you cannot afford 'fine dining'. If a restaurant wants to have a no kids policy, then they should be allowed. There are plenty of restaurants with really good food that you can take kids to that are affordable.

I have eaten in fine dining restaurants around the world that serve children. Albeit, not a lot of them. The one distinction is that none of them had American Children.... filled with entitlement and sugar upon arrival in them. The children acted far more maturely than most adults I encounter here.

 

[Nitwit]

Off topic slightly but was listening to Dave Chang's podcast/interview with Wylie Dufresne and they determined the greatest American culinary contribution to the world was short order cooking and BBQ. Thought that was interesting...

BBQ is over rated IMHO. The sauces are full of sugar and salt.

Sorry, but this is a really dumb post. Excruciatingly dumb actually. People that eat burgers and fries aren't any more likely to have misbehaved kids than those that eat shellfish and sushi. Sheesh. WTF.

i never said they did. You misread my post. I was making a different point entirely, which was that parents should train their children to appreciate different cuisines. I didn’t correlate burger eating parents with misbehaving children.

 

[Cletus11]

Off topic slightly but was listening to Dave Chang's podcast/interview with Wylie Dufresne and they determined the greatest American culinary contribution to the world was short order cooking and BBQ. Thought that was interesting...

Lot of Europeans lately talking about BBQ. Was talking to one that was in a BBQ club in Europe that met monthly and cooked BBQ no different than a monthly wine club except it was a BBQ club. Had one euro talk about him and his friends doing a USA BBQ tour as they were planing a week long trip through the south and Midwest to hit all the famous BBQ spots.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Lot of Europeans lately talking about BBQ. Was talking to one that was in a BBQ club in Europe that met monthly and cooked BBQ no different than a monthly wine club except it was a BBQ club. Had one euro talk about him and his friends doing a USA BBQ tour as they were planing a week long trip through the south and Midwest to hit all the famous BBQ spots.

I actually went to something like that in Germany. I think it was about 25 Euro per person. They did American style BBQ and wore western clothes and played country music. Think the hosts were some kind of BBQ club.

 

[MJG-90]

Sorry, but this is a really dumb post. Excruciatingly dumb actually. People that eat burgers and fries aren't any more likely to have misbehaved kids than those that eat shellfish and sushi. Sheesh. WTF.

I am pretty sure you missed his point. By a wide margin.

 

[KnightWhoSaysNit]

I have eaten in the finest restaurants, in Germany, Holland, France, Canada etc. All Democratic Socialist countries which are also capitalistic with less family business failures and bankruptcies... and your post is baseless and pure crap.

I know people that "retired" in their early 50s, but now work as janitors. They do not even have college degrees, but ... they own a lake house, dock, and boat. In any of the countries you listed, especially many socialist countries you did not list, people in their "profession" (before and now) would not even begin to think about owning such property.

They bought the lake house before dealing with the education of their kids and their own health care. Any guess as to their politics?

 

[MtNittany]

BBQ is over rated IMHO. The sauces are full of sugar and salt.

i never said they did. You misread my post. I was making a different point entirely, which was that parents should train their children to appreciate different cuisines. I didn’t correlate burger eating parents with misbehaving children.

I can read between the lines. I didn't misread anything - there's no way you can spin this. Your point is clear that people NEED to force feed their kids different foods in order to educate and mature them. Along with this education and maturity will come better behavior. Sure. No. Sorry. Parents can feed their kids grass and if they're good parents and good kids, the kids don't misbehave. They can feed them lobster for breakfast and if they're shitty parents and thus shitty kids, they will misbehave. FOOD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

 

[TheBigUglies]

I wonder how many people complaining about kids in restaurants actually have kids and have taken them to restaurants when they were small. Before I had kids it would drive me nuts being in a restaurant with screaming crying food throwing kids. However, after having kids of my own and taking them to restaurants and they screamed or cried or misbehaved, we would not let it go on and taught them proper restaurant manners. If we could not control our kids, one of us would pick them out and leave the dining area so that we didn't disturb other customers. We would never let out kids run aimlessly around the dining area and bother other customers. Now that my kids are grown, I have way more tolerance for other parents that don't control their kids in restaurants. My kids don't and then I remind them that they used to do that. However, my answer would be that is doesn't really matter to me if the restaurant bans kids or not, as long as the food and service is good, I will dine there.

About the issue of parents taking kids to bars or wineries, what is the difference from a restaurant of those places server food? I do question the parents judgement since they would most likely be under the influence driving their kids home from such establishment.

 

[BobPSU92]

I can read between the lines. I didn't misread anything - there's no way you can spin this. Your point is clear that people NEED to force feed their kids different foods in order to educate and mature them. Along with this education and maturity will come better behavior. Sure. No. Sorry. Parents can feed their kids grass and if they're good parents and good kids, the kids don't misbehave. They can feed them lobster for breakfast and if they're shitty parents and thus shitty kids, they will misbehave. FOOD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

Dig in. Good.

 

[BobPSU92]

The worst is sitting in a booth with a rowdy kid in the booth behind you. My wife and I have had a few bad experiences like this. A young kid standing up in the booth at eye level looking at you or screaming. A young kid with a Nintendo Switch or phone blaring. If we've just been seated, we ask to be re-seated. If we're in the middle of our meal, we ask the parents to quiet and seat their child. Surprisingly in the latter case, we've never had a parent push back. They've always apologized and addressed the situation.