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Do you think there is a pedo ring?

Do you think that TSM, Fina, Corbett, and others are covering up a pedo ring?

  • YES

    Votes: 79 61.2%
  • NO

    Votes: 45 34.9%
  • OTHER (PLEASE EXPLAIN YOUR RESPONSE)

    Votes: 5 3.9%

  • Total voters
    129
TSM is where shady "bid-ness" deals were cut. It represented the confluence of "dark" money and politics. I also believe that the TSM inner circle used it as a means to commit tax fraud. "Tommy and his Boyz" knew it but looked the other way as long as the campaign gravy train kept rolling along.

HERE IS THE MOST IMPORTANT POINT: You can't tell me that the TSM inner circle aka PSU BoT Old Guard didn't know about the Sandusky developments in real time and agree with the course of actions by "Tommy and the Boyz" PA OAG.

And, IIRC, Frazier's wife was on the TSM Board and likely exposed to possible criminal and almost certain civil actions if TSM continued to exist.
 
You're still ignoring some FACTS:

1) MM called Daddy-O from his office minutes after seeing "something". Now, he wouldn't do that of they were horsing around.

2) The three musketeers held a members only meeting that very night to discuss......horseplay????

3) Spanier’s own Email talks about being liable. Liable over horseplay?

In a HE SAID/HE SAID situation, all it would have taken was an accusation and PSU would have been the deep pockets in a civil suit. A suit that would no doubt be settled out of court for a lot of $$$.

This is where you're reading the email wrong. Spanier said "The only downside for us is if our message is not heard and acted upon, and we then become vulnerable for not having reported it" is an IF/THEN scenario. To trigger this downside, there would have to be a subsequent incident. This was all about prevention.

How was what Sandusky would do in the future more important than the obvious present and open ended "downside" of the boy or his family initiating a report to the authorities? Their complete lack of concern for or interest in the boy is inexplicable if what you believe is true. Yet they meet to discuss Jerry's "future appropriate use of the University facility", but not a single mention of what should have been the elephant in the room....the boy!
 
In a HE SAID/HE SAID situation, all it would have taken was an accusation and PSU would have been the deep pockets in a civil suit. A suit that would no doubt be settled out of court for a lot of $$$.

This is where you're reading the email wrong. Spanier said "The only downside for us is if our message is not heard and acted upon, and we then become vulnerable for not having reported it" is an IF/THEN scenario. To trigger this downside, there would have to be a subsequent incident. This was all about prevention.

How was what Sandusky would do in the future more important than the obvious present and open ended "downside" of the boy or his family initiating a report to the authorities? Their complete lack of concern for or interest in the boy is inexplicable if what you believe is true. Yet they meet to discuss Jerry's "future appropriate use of the University facility", but not a single mention of what should have been the elephant in the room....the boy!

Reported "horseplay"?

Thanks for pointing out I read the Email (ahem) wrong.
 
No. Originally the whole Sandusky thing was going to die in a grand jury - until Spanier had the nerve to stand up to Tom Corbett over the budget and those pesky vocal climate guys on his campus who are anti-fossil fuel...et voilà - the Sandusky file suddenly gains traction.

Corbett wanted Spanier's hide nailed to his wall as a trophy kill. Fina and his Public Corruption Unit gunslingers were just the guys to do it. Use a grand jury, target the individual, develop a flip strategy, put the screws to Cynthia Baldwin and light a dumpster fire on the steps of Old Main.

Media shitstorm happens with the Paterno name. Jeezus H. Christ - THE NCAA just swam up looking for blood! So NOT part of the plan. We have to double down - so we manipulate a few emails, and let Louis Freeh and Twitter do the dirty work in July 2012.

More media shitstorm happens. Corbett & Fina continue with the mantra of "successful prosecution of Sandusky" "moral obligation" yada yada...distracting from the gasoline smell on their hands.

Now, whatever the hell was going on over at the Second Mile.......that was what Lynne "One Tough Cookie" Abraham was supposed to find out. However, we now know she was just window dressing until the shitstorm blew past their offices and settled up on campus. Lynne was then told to take a hike.

I dunno - the Second Mile crew were involved in Swinging and partying at the Autoport and now Gigi's, a lot of cash was being brought in, lots of social climbing & political influence with this gang, lax oversight of whatever the hell their founder, chairman and figurehead was doing with Second Mile kids, they wanted to build an $11 MILLION campus out by the airport....lots of questions still need to be answered.

Hmm, something familiar about this scenario, facility related to $$$, possible kickbacks, money laundering, kickbacks on contracts, sounds a lot like the Kids for Cash case in NEPA. The Pa. judicial system refused to do anything and investigate until the FBI & IRS got involved.
 
You're still ignoring some FACTS:

1) MM called Daddy-O from his office minutes after seeing "something". Now, he wouldn't do that of they were horsing around.

2) The three musketeers held a members only meeting that very night to discuss......horseplay????

3) Spanier’s own Email talks about being liable. Liable over horseplay?

Not ignoring you Sherlock, I’m just not locked into this board 24/7. Computer shuts off @ 4:30 starts @7:15 am.

Saw your post five minutes ago. Contact the investigator mentioned in the article below, maybe he can give you some relief.
If he can’t, try some Preparation H, that usually works for me when I’m full of $hit.

Tuesday, March 28, 2017Special Agent Who Investigated Spanier Blows Up Case
Link: http://www.bigtrial.net/2017/03/special-agent-who-investigated-spanier.html
 
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Money can buy anything in this country.
If you have a lot, you can get away with a lot.
If you have a HUGE amount, you can get away with anything.

So I have no idea if there is/was a "ring", and I'm not holding my breath to find out- because we never will.
 
Corbett wanted Spanier's hide nailed to his wall as a trophy kill. Fina and his Public Corruption Unit gunslingers were just the guys to do it. Use a grand jury, target the individual, develop a flip strategy, put the screws to Cynthia Baldwin and light a dumpster fire on the steps of Old Main.

Wow, Corbett is a moron. In order to bag his "trophy kill", he also had to take out the most beloved Republican in Pennsylvania. That's like sacrificing one of your top generals to take out an enemy's lieutenant.
 
Anyone ever hear rumors about H? I have but not a solid source so I would prefer if anyone did they would throw it out there to see if it confirms what I heard prior to JS being investigated.
 
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Anyone ever hear rumors about Heim? I have but not a solid source so I would prefer if anyone did they would throw it out there to see if it confirms what I heard prior to JS being investigated.

Regarding the Snoopy jet and trips to California?
(Or is that Poole?)
 
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Hmm, something familiar about this scenario, facility related to $$$, possible kickbacks, money laundering, kickbacks on contracts, sounds a lot like the Kids for Cash case in NEPA. The Pa. judicial system refused to do anything and investigate until the FBI & IRS got involved.
Maybe what we actually have in PA is not a Pedo Ring.....but a Pedo PROTECTION Racket by those can access the PACORN.

No problems with the law for child abusers...that is if you "contribute" large amouts of $$$$ to our "re-election" funds!

More probable as being true than anything we have heard in 6+ years.
 
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Maybe what we actually have in PA is not a Pedo Ring.....but a Pedo PROTECTION Racket by those can access the PACORN.

No problems with the law for child abusers...that is if you "contribute" large amouts of $$$$ to our "re-election" funds!

More probable as being true than anything we have heard in 6+ years.

Wasn't there a pretty significant uptick in pedo related crimes when Kane took over?

I remember thinking wow, corbett must not have been looking very hard for these people.

Pretty stunning that no one in the media felt it was odd that corbett didnt use his vaunted child predator unit for JS case and also had a narc investigator (Sassano) involved instead of child abuse investigator. Hmmmmm. Never smelled right to me.
 
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Regarding the Snoopy jet and trips to California?
(Or is that Poole?)


I believe it was Heim and I forget who his co-signer was on the Articles of Incorporation. I linked it here several years ago. It is available on the Pa. Incorporation site, I'll try to find it again.

There are 2 entries Charlie Brown Air I & II. Lance Shaner and Frederick Shaner are listed as Officers. The other Corp. the Officers have been sanitized, which I'm sure Heim was one.

Here it is...Heim is 1/2 owner, 2 Jets.

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1397516/000119312509206354/dex1035.htm
 
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I believe it was Heim and I forget who his co-signer was on the Articles of Incorporation. I linked it here several years ago. It is available on the Pa. Incorporation site, I'll try to find it again.

There are 2 entries Charlie Brown Air I & II. Lance Shaner and Frederick Shaner are listed as Officers. The other Corp. the Officers have been sanitized, which I'm sure Heim was one.
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1397516/000119312509206354/dex1035.htm

OPERATING AGREEMENT

OF CHARLIE BROWN AIR II, LLC

THIS AMENDED AND RESTATED LIMITED LIABILITY COMPANY AGREEMENT is entered into as of the 26th day of June, 2008, by and among those persons who have executed this Agreement, and whose names and addresses are set forth in Schedule I, as Members.

NOW, THERFORE, the parties agree as follows:

ARTICLE 1

THE COMPANY

1.1 Formation. The Company was formed as a limited liability company pursuant to the Delaware Limited Liability Company Law (the “Law”).

1.2 Certificate of Formation. A Certificate of Formation under the Law (the “Certificate”) was filed in the office of the Delaware Secretary of State on June 30, 2008. The Company will execute further documents (including amendments to the Certificate) and take further action as is appropriate to comply with all requirements of law for the formation and operation of a limited liability company in the State of Delaware and all other counties and states where the Company may elect to do business.

1.3 Name. The name of the Company is Charlie Brown Air II, LLC, but the business of the Company may be conducted under any other name designated by the Members.

1.4 Character of Business. The sole and exclusive business of the Company is to acquire, own, and otherwise deal with the assets of the Company. The Company may engage in any activities that are reasonable, necessary or appropriate in connection with the assets to promote the interests of the Company or enhance the value of its property.

1.5 Principal Place of Business. The principal place of business of the Company is 1965 Waddle Road, State College, Pennsylvania 16803, State College, Pennsylvania, or at another location as may be selected by the Members. The Company may maintain other offices or agents as the Members deem advisable.

1.6 Registered Agent and Office. The registered office of the Company is 1209 Orange Street, Wilmington, Delaware. The Corporation Trust Company is the registered agent of the Company for service of process. At any time the Members may change the location of the Company’s registered office or registered agent as they may determine.

1.7 Fiscal Year. The fiscal year of the Company is the calendar year.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF the parties have executed this Agreement, to be effective as of the day and year first above written.



/s/ Bruce Heim

Bruce Heim
Member
SHANER HOTEL GROUP LIMITED PARTNERSHIP
By:
/s/ Peter K. Hulburt

Peter K. Hulburt
Vice President
REX ENERGY OPERATING CORP.
By:
/s/ Benjamin W. Hulburt

Benjamin W. Hulburt
Chief Executive Officer

- 22 -



CHARLIE BROWN AIR II, LLC

SCHEDULE I



NAME AND ADDRESS

CAPITAL

CONTRIBUTION

ECONOMIC

PERCENTAGE

INTEREST

VOTING

INTEREST

PERCENTAGE

Members:

Bruce Heim

444 E. College Avenue

State College, PA 16801

$100,000.00 50% 50%
Shaner Hotel Group Limited Partnership

1965 Waddle Road

State College, PA 16803

$50,000.00 25% 25%
Rex Energy Operating Corp.

1975 Waddle Road

State College, PA 16803

$50,000.00 25% 25%
 
Regarding the Snoopy jet and trips to California?
(Or is that Poole?)
No, didn't hear that. Like the one TSM camp out of town of one of the current BOT members, which seemed a strange coincidence when I read that...cross-dressing.
I don't know the source myself. I was chatting with an old colleague circa 2009 and we were telling stories about the kind of evil characters of the big real estate people in this town. My story was about one of them who ruined a perfectly good million dollar property by releasing thousands of rats into it when his ex-wife got awarded it in their settlement. I wasn't ready for the conversation to turn the way it did but she starting talking about h and his messed up proclivities and said the cross-dressing thing that I guess a friend of hers knew about firsthand. I thought she was telling the truth because she clearly had more to say, but held back. Just implying that there was some major crazy stuff there.
 
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No, didn't hear that. Like the one TSM camp out of town of one of the current BOT members, which seemed a strange coincidence when I read that...cross-dressing.
I don't know the source myself. I was chatting with an old colleague circa 2009 and we were telling stories about the kind of evil characters of the big real estate people in this town. My story was about one of them who ruined a perfectly good million dollar property by releasing thousands of rats into it when his ex-wife got awarded it in their settlement. I wasn't ready for the conversation to turn the way it did but she starting talking about heim and his messed up proclivities and said the cross-dressing thing that I guess a friend of hers knew about firsthand. I thought she was telling the truth because she clearly had more to say, but held back. Just implying that there was some major crazy stuff there.
Frank Sheehan knows a lot about Heim's proclivities.
 
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Like the one TSM camp out of town of one of the current BOT members, which seemed a strange coincidence when I read that...cross-dressing.


The "cross-dressing" was part of a skit....and what the **** does that have to do with child abuse, anyway?
 
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