What's the over/under on Sandusky Scandal references/mentions? I think if it was a drinking game, we'd all be slobbered before Corso puts on a mascot head.
Only God knows!I'm pretty sure they got it right at the end of the day.
It's also possible that some hated the witch hunt and media backlash that they need the first trial to be a "sham" because the BoT allowed and made it about PSU instead of Jerry? Many feel Jerry is where he belongs and aren't crying foul for him. It doesn't make them out to get PSU or hate PSU or whatever the hell else gets floated around here. There was a ton of collateral damage and it did suck...but was it really the mistrial of the century?
If that makes you sleep better at night, so be it. There are those humans he molested and testified against him so maybe only God, Jerry, and all of his victims...and anyone else not pretending it didn't happen.Only God knows!
demlion, with your connections I figured you'd be on the ground running with a dispensary or two.They passed a medical MJ bill. But it turns everything over to big pharma. Slow learners.
If getting it right requires: PSP who lie under oathI'm pretty sure they got it right at the end of the day.
If that makes you sleep better at night, so be it. There are those humans he molested and testified against him so maybe only God, Jerry, and all of his victims...and anyone else not pretending it didn't happen.
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On the contrary, it makes me cry like a janitor.....oh wait!If that makes you sleep better at night, so be it. There are those humans he molested and testified against him so maybe only God, Jerry, and all of his victims...and anyone else not pretending it didn't happen.
Yep...molestation is fake as kids know to take those DNA samples...good stuff. Kids lie, just like anyone else who ever got a settlement. Jerry tripped into those showers. He just kept getting faked into being alone with little boys...those tricky parents and kids...going back 15 years to set him up for this...what a well executed plan. Damn...they were good.If getting it right requires: PSP who lie under oath
manipulating times, dates and locations
obtaining convictions for "crimes" with victims "known only to God"
The majority of victims to recant their previous testimonies of no abuse
Relying on the "excited utterance" of a "crying" janitor....who on tape stated that what he witnessed didn't involve Sandusky.......other than that, yes, they mostly got it right. LOL
They didn't set him up 15 years ago......there was no money on the table then. "Kids lie, just like anyone else who gets a settlement." Those are your words, I have nothing to add. The "victim" who claimed to be anally raped in Jerry's basement should have been examined....that would have been valuable evidence.Yep...molestation is fake as kids know to take those DNA samples...good stuff. Kids lie, just like anyone else who ever got a settlement. Jerry tripped into those showers. He just kept getting faked into being alone with little boys...those tricky parents and kids...going back 15 years to set him up for this...what a well executed plan. Damn...they were good.
Should have been examined when? Do you realize that most victims don't come forward until they are adults if they even do at all or do you just block that out as a myth or something? Money or not, you do understand that is why people like Jerry get away with this stuff as kids are afraid to tell or confused by it.. Kids aren't picking up the phone and calling the police in most cases. Do you really not understand that or you just think that is made up by experts in that field? It sounds like to me unless a kid calls the cops that night and gets a rape kit done, it didn't happen according to you. I mean that is fine, some people don't think 911 was real and a few still think the world is flat too. At least I now know that you don't believe this occurred much like franco and a few others.They didn't set him up 15 years ago......there was no money on the table then. "Kids lie, just like anyone else who gets a settlement." Those are your words, I have nothing to add. The "victim" who claimed to be anally raped in Jerry's basement should have been examined....that would have been valuable evidence.
What's really fascinating to me, is how much you care what I, or anyone else thinks on this matter. I'm not trying to change your mind. Follow your own advice....believe whatever helps you sleep at night.Should have been examined when? Do you realize that most victims don't come forward until they are adults if they even do at all or do you just block that out as a myth or something? Money or not, you do understand that is why people like Jerry get away with this stuff as kids are afraid to tell or confused by it.. Kids aren't picking up the phone and calling the police in most cases. Do you really not understand that or you just think that is made up by experts in that field? It sounds like to me unless a kid calls the cops that night and gets a rape kit done, it didn't happen according to you. I mean that is fine, some people don't think 911 was real and a few still think the world is flat too. At least I now know that you don't believe this occurred much like franco and a few others.
No worries marshall. I can see if you ignore what really happens with abuse how you could believe what you typed.What's really fascinating to me, is how much you care what I, or anyone else thinks on this matter. I'm not trying to change your mind. Follow your own advice....believe whatever helps you sleep at night.
I'll admit I'm not an expert, how about you? I do have a good nose for detecting liars however.......and there are a bunch of them posing as "victims." I also know there are lying police who actively urged potential victims to embellish their stories.....we've heard that on tape. Right? So if you believe all the victims and their stories and everything the prosecutors did to manipulate the case, then good for you. I will disagree.No worries marshall. I can see if you ignore what really happens with abuse how you could believe what you typed.
I am far from an expert, but I don't think saying most victims don't report it or come forward as children is some earth shattering news, but maybe you really don't know this. I get why some want so badly for this to be false...really I do.I'll admit I'm not an expert, how about you? I do have a good nose for detecting liars however.......and there are a bunch of them posing as "victims." I also know there are lying police who actively urged potential victims to embellish their stories.....we've heard that on tape. Right? So if you believe all the victims and their stories and everything the prosecutors did to manipulate the case, then good for you. I will disagree.
Even bricks?
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Perhaps the Judge could hide out in a cabin with Victim 2, aka the victim "known only by God"I haven't followed the trial for even 1 minute so I can't speak to the merit of the case other than these things are almost never granted (correct?). Announcing 3 days early that a decision will be released at high noon on Wednesday speaks more to denial of the case IMO. No judge is going to blow up the JS trial now. If the judge was going to throw out this conviction (and deal with the fallout), he'd release it at 4:55 pm on Friday and get out of town for a few days.
Who exactly would enforce that "fiduciary discomfort?" They've gotten off completely so far, $300 million and counting.Unfortunately your view is wayyyy too binary. A new trial on all issues is almost impossible to imagine. Striking the 'boy in the shower' charges leaves Jerry to rot in the same prison cell he is in, but defeats a big chunk of the narrative that was used to F PSU.
It might also cause some fiduciary discomfort on the part of some on the BOT, and their lawyers.
Only God knows!
Should have been examined when? Do you realize that most victims don't come forward until they are adults if they even do at all or do you just block that out as a myth or something? Money or not, you do understand that is why people like Jerry get away with this stuff as kids are afraid to tell or confused by it.. Kids aren't picking up the phone and calling the police in most cases. Do you really not understand that or you just think that is made up by experts in that field? It sounds like to me unless a kid calls the cops that night and gets a rape kit done, it didn't happen according to you. I mean that is fine, some people don't think 911 was real and a few still think the world is flat too. At least I now know that you don't believe this occurred much like franco and a few others.
I am far from an expert, but I don't think saying most victims don't report it or come forward as children is some earth shattering news, but maybe you really don't know this. I get why some want so badly for this to be false...really I do.
Odd I have studied fanatics and they will totally tune out reality if it impacts their life. This site is a perfect case study for a small vocal minority. They deny Jerry molested anyone because they don't want to accept the reality.I have done some very extensive research in this matter, and though many years of exhaustive and challenging studies, my in depth analysis has shown that the best way to help a "victim" remember something that he has claimed never happened is this:
Yes my friends. I have found that millions of dollars will help "refresh" anyone's memory. Some people just need a higher dose of the green than others.
Questioning the credibility of some "victims" is not the same as believing that JS is completely innocent.Odd I have studied fanatics and they will totally tune out reality if it impacts their life. This site is a perfect case study for a small vocal minority. They deny Jerry molested anyone because they don't want to accept the reality.
Interesting.Where does one matriculate to make a study of fanatics?Odd I have studied fanatics and they will totally tune out reality if it impacts their life. This site is a perfect case study for a small vocal minority. They deny Jerry molested anyone because they don't want to accept the reality.
Agree, but it's not that most didn't come forward. NONE came forward. And becoming an adult didn't get them to come forward. A LAWYER telling them that he can fix their repressed memory and get them $millions got them to come forward.Should have been examined when? Do you realize that most victims don't come forward until they are adults if they even do at all or do you just block that out as a myth or something? Money or not, you do understand that is why people like Jerry get away with this stuff as kids are afraid to tell or confused by it.. Kids aren't picking up the phone and calling the police in most cases. Do you really not understand that or you just think that is made up by experts in that field? It sounds like to me unless a kid calls the cops that night and gets a rape kit done, it didn't happen according to you. I mean that is fine, some people don't think 911 was real and a few still think the world is flat too. At least I now know that you don't believe this occurred much like franco and a few others.
Interesting.Where does one matriculate to make a study of fanatics?
Odd I have studied fanatics and they will totally tune out reality if it impacts their life. This site is a perfect case study for a small vocal minority. They deny Jerry molested anyone because they don't want to accept the reality.
One man was brought to justice while another was vilified. If you consider that “right” at the end of the day then I feel sorry for you.I'm pretty sure they got it right at the end of the day.
Agree, but it's not that most didn't come forward. NONE came forward. And becoming an adult didn't get them to come forward. A LAWYER telling them that he can fix their repressed memory and get them $millions got them to come forward.
I disagree when you call people deniers when they question some of the accusers.
Interesting.Where does one matriculate to make a study of fanatics?
Exactly, at what point do you let some of the victims be? They all need to rehash their abuse for you so you can say...well it was only 37 counts...you see Jerry wasn't that bad. Then you hide behind the Constitution like it somehow makes this crap look better? There is no such thing as a fair trial in any nation on this planet, but oddly enough this one they got right. What sucks to me is you do this for Joe...yet you read Scott's tweet to JZ and you just shake your head as to how people think they are helping here. When good intentions go bad...really bad.What I wonder is when did "the end justifies the means" replace the constitutional right to a fair trial? Sorry if this is a typical question posed by a "fanatic."
Says the man who has hundreds of handles and is a perma troll that has been banned from pretty much every PSU site online. Odd you seem to want to shut me up...what's the matter do I crush your hopes that it was all a bad dream and it didn't happen pnny? Get mad at me because I don't think Jerry is some victim...oh well. Then you bring the kids into this like you give a flying f--k there. This is and has been about one thing for you and at least one other person...all about Joe. You idolized the man and cannot handle what happened to him. I get it...you're hurting..it sucked, but seriously, it's time to come to grips with it.He doesn't realize he's describing himself when he talks about fanatics. I don't know what this troll's so worried about. Was he abused by JS? Is that why he spends so much time on a message board for a school to which he has zero connection? If he were concerned about the welfare of children in the state of PA I could understand but I don't think he even lives in PA. SMH.
You are really grasping at straws. Your reply is totally unrelated to my post. Hiding behind the constitution? If having the expectation of a fair trial is hiding... then color me camoflauge.Exactly, at what point do you let some of the victims be? They all need to rehash their abuse for you so you can say...well it was only 37 counts...you see Jerry wasn't that bad. Then you hide behind the Constitution like it somehow makes this crap look better? There is no such thing as a fair trial in any nation on this planet, but oddly enough this one they got right. What sucks to me is you do this for Joe...yet you read Scott's tweet to JZ and you just shake your head as to how people think they are helping here. When good intentions go bad...really bad.
One man was brought to justice while another was vilified. If you consider that “right” at the end of the day then I feel sorry for you.
I agree that it's wrong to attack victims but I don't agree that it's wrong to question accusers with suspicious claims. Same is true with MM. It's usually wrong to attack a whistleblower but it's not wrong to question his inconsistent statements.I disagree with people that attack victims of abuse because they hate Joe got dragged through the mud. I hate he got brought into this, but I sure as hell won't act as if Jerry is innocent because of that. There is NO perfect judicial system. There is no perfect trial. It doesn't exist and while some like to pretend it exists...it doesn't and never has. People being afraid to take down a nationally recognized person or respected person...well that never happens. I guess everyone here has a price where they would send an innocent man to jail....maybe that is what people are getting at. I guess that must be it, some souless people here but hey they sure want to play that moral card and constitution card as fast as they can.
I agree that it's wrong to attack victims but I don't agree that it's wrong to question accusers with suspicious claims. Same is true with MM. It's usually wrong to attack a whistleblower but it's not wrong to question his inconsistent statements.
I'm not sure that anybody other than Zeigler thinks that JS is completely innocent. But that doesn't mean that all the claims were valid.
You are really grasping at straws. Your reply is totally unrelated to my post. Hiding behind the constitution? If having the expectation of a fair trial is hiding... then color me camoflauge.
I agree that it's wrong to attack victims but I don't agree that it's wrong to question accusers with suspicious claims. Same is true with MM. It's usually wrong to attack a whistleblower but it's not wrong to question his inconsistent statements.
I'm not sure that anybody other than Zeigler thinks that JS is completely innocent. But that doesn't mean that all the claims were valid.
Haven’t you learned yet that it not going to happen? Seriously you would think after 6 years of waiting for some magical break in this case only to be disappointed that people would stop the rediculous delusions of grandeur. They are not going to throw out any charges he was convicted on. They will either deny his request or grant him a new trial. If he gets a new trial it just going to be another round of Penn State hit pieces by the media. It not like the media is actually going to support Penn State. If by some miracle Sandusky acquitted on all charges at the new trial in the court of public opinion he will be as innocent as OJ was.on Weds just AFTER Gameday said it was coming? Suppose the judge throws out the charges re the kid in the shower? Isn't that the linchpin of Penn State's connection to the case?
Suppose the judge sympathizes with PSU and wants to give PSU this win in front of the whole world?
Yeah, pipe dream, I know.
Says the man who has hundreds of handles and is a perma troll that has been banned from pretty much every PSU site online. Odd you seem to want to shut me up...what's the matter do I crush your hopes that it was all a bad dream and it didn't happen pnny? Get mad at me because I don't think Jerry is some victim...oh well. Then you bring the kids into this like you give a flying f--k there. This is and has been about one thing for you and at least one other person...all about Joe. You idolized the man and cannot handle what happened to him. I get it...you're hurting..it sucked, but seriously, it's time to come to grips with it.
Take it out on me...let it all out pnny. Maybe a good cry will help?
I did not say anything about Jerry being acquitted or getting a new trial, except that a new trial was nearly an impossibility.Haven’t you learned yet that it not going to happen? Seriously you would think after 6 years of waiting for some magical break in this case only to be disappointed that people would stop the rediculous delusions of grandeur. They are not going to throw out any charges he was convicted on. They will either deny his request or grant him a new trial. If he gets a new trial it just going to be another round of Penn State hit pieces by the media. It not like the media is actually going to support Penn State. If by some miracle Sandusky acquitted on all charges at the new trial in the court of public opinion he will be as innocent as OJ was.
people like Jerry get away with this stuff as kids are afraid to tell or confused by it.. Kids aren't picking up the phone and calling the police in most cases.