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Dr Barron to fraternities: girls or alcohol

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Panhellenic put out a press release Monday that seems to have gone completely unnoticed. The Collegian and OnwardState published poor images of the letter and quoted one or two sentences. Reading it was very difficult but I learned a lot, so I transcribed it (all errors are mine) and also posted it on http://psaaforall.org/2017/06/panhellenic-response-bot-june-2-2017-transcribed/
http://psaaforall.org/2017/06/panhellenic-response-bot-june-2-2017-transcribed/
For immediate release: June 5th, 2017

Panhellenic Council’s Response to Board of Trustees

In April, I issued a letter to President Barron on behalf of Panhellenic detailing our unique position at Penn State. I did not release it publicly in order to maintain Panhellenic’s professionalism as well as create and foster an environment most effective for collaboration. The Panhellenic Executive Board sincerely believed that our continual effort to work with the University would be met with enthusiasm and open ears. However, after months of waiting, this letter went unanswered.

On June 2nd, the Board of Trustees met, which resulted in the addressing of multiple changes to the Greek life Community. The only specific mention of “sorority” during the BOT meeting was in regards to our chapter size. Traditionally, our chapter size has grown as the interest in our organizations has grown. Penn State is unique in that we promote an inclusive sorority experience. We promise every woman who effectively completes our recruitment a bid – meaning that we do not deny nor exclude any member from joining our organizations. We ensure that every woman has a place in Panhellenic if she so chooses. Today, this promotion of inclusivity has been deemed as dangerous and leading to an “unwieldy” number. Unfortunately, the Board of Trustees overlooked this aspect, deciding our organizations should be capped, creating an environment that can be seen as “exclusive”. This significantly deters from the University’s All In campaign, which encourages diversity and inclusivity.

It goes without saying that no Panhellenic organization was in attendance at Beta Theta Pi that night, as displayed by the presentment. Trilogy and Panhellenic differ on a majority of rules and regulations, risk management policies, as well as our regular communication and time spent working with University Staff members. Trilogy is currently governed by the Office of Student Affairs, which has the right to revoke and create standard for clubs to be held responsible for. The Panhellenic Executive Board supports every single Penn State organization being governed equally, with each organization being held to the same rules, regulations, and standards. However, the Board of Trustees state very clearly in their meeting that these new regulations would be placed on only the Greek Organizations. The irony is not lost upon us, that the organization actually identified at this event, will not be subject to the same stipulations.

In addition, we as Panhellenic women want to address the University’s public statements regarding sexual assault. The Panhellenic community supports an environment where sexual assault statistics are not just thrown around when it is convenient. Recently, President Barron wrote “An Open Letter to Penn State’s Greek Community” citing that … “the vast majority of sexual assaults are associated with alcohol and that an association with Greek life yields a sexual assault victimization rate that is about 50 percent higher than the average student.” While the President does go on to state that this is a national problem, he fails to make this a community wide initiative. The Panhellenic Council, the largest women’s organization at Penn State, has been working diligently at efforts to eliminate sexual assault. This is an epidemic not unique to our campus, and over the years it has garnered copious amounts of national attention. In public statements and in addresses by administration to students, the University has chosen to recognize this problem behind a slew of other issues plaguing Penn State and other college campuses. By doing so, they have denied this problem the attention and commitment it deserves. Sexual assault is not just another problem on your laundry list. It is a problem that women face every day, and that has plagued so many of our experiences in andoutside of fraternity houses for years.

I would like to briefly share some pertinent quotes pulled from my letter to President Barron on behalf of Panhellenic, which went unanswered. I find that the meaning still highly relevant and necessary in order for Panhellenic to move forward in an honest and effective manner.

“Ultimately, the boys were given two options: girls or alcohol – the two of them not being allowed to mix. Panhellenic did not take fondly to the idea that girls and alcohol were “optional,” as one is an object and one is a human being. This begs the question, does the presence of girls with alcohol create the problem, or do the men and women’s mentality and sense of responsibility create the problem. The decision did not confirm the latter.”

“Panhellenic needs more. We need to know what we are doing wrong, specific to our organization and what we are doing right, which the men can get on board with or simply not be recognized any longer. We need our administrators and officials to use the term “women” for more than just a sexual assault statistic. We are not just the victims of fraternity men. We are also empowered women who have not been equally conversed with in the midst of a horrible and tragic situation.”

“I want to make the change that Penn State would like to see. There are so many facets to this situation, which work differently for men and women. Our recruitment being of them. Our new member process being another. I do not ask you for congratulations that our organizations have not been found hazing in years. I understand we are simply meeting what is expected of us and that even so; we have miles more to go.”

Panhellenic is vastly different than the Interfraternity Council, or really any other organization on campus in a myriad of ways. Regardless, we have fully supported steps towards a safer future with open arms. This letter is not one of resistance to change; Panhellenic recognizes that there is change that our campus so richly deserve. Instead, we would like to express to the community, our immense interest in real and authentic communication, which has thus far, not been fully served.

The Panhellenic Council asks earnestly, that we meet with University Officials in the near future. We ask that those who make decisions for us take the time to read our current code of conduct, bylaws, and social policies to educate themselves on the nuances of Panhellenic, Greek Life, and all other organizations on campus. Our board, as the many before it, is nothing short of intellectual, committed, and passionate individuals. We deserve a meeting that tis focused on our – the 4,000 women of Penn State’s Panhellenic Association – specific and present time needs. This is not a new request, for it has truthfully been an ongoing one.

To Evan and our immediate support system in the office, thank you for your continual belief in our success. To Danny Shaha, your daughters should be proud to have a father like you. To the Panhellenic community, thank you for your commitment to navigate through every change. To the Highlands and Fraternity Life, thank you for opening up your homes and neighborhood to us, we promise to do better. To our parents how have raised strong women, thank you for allowing us to recognize that we deserve more. And to the Piazza family, we will work diligently each day with your beautiful son in our thoughts.

We anxiously await the opportunity to speak in the Fall.

For the glory,

Amanda Saper, Panhellenic President.

(also signed by 10 board members)
 
Back in the day, dorms had "lobby monitors" so you supposedly couldn't sneak anyone in. Girls/guys beat this by using stairwell doors, or in certain dorms you could crawl/climb into 1st & 2nd floor windows. There were no door alarms.

I'm sure the frats were doing the same thing as necessary.

Barron couldn't monitor/eliminate alcohol, so how does he propose to do it with women? A knowledgeable person can beat/disable cameras.
 
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Back in my day the university required every student to complete a course on nutrition. Perhaps they should create one for sexual assault, with some role playing, and require that. At least they could charge students and make a buck off it.
 
Back in my day the university required every student to complete a course on nutrition. Perhaps they should create one for sexual assault, with some role playing, and require that. At least they could charge students and make a buck off it.
Well...whatever sets the university up for maximum exposure to future lawsuits.
 
Back in my day the university required every student to complete a course on nutrition. Perhaps they should create one for sexual assault, with some role playing, and require that. At least they could charge students and make a buck off it.
When was that, if I might ask? That wasn't true in my day (late 1970s)--we were only required to be able to swim, and we had to take 3 gym and one health ed class.
 
She's totally got a point. Barron proposes banning women from fraternity parties without even any discussion whatsoever with the sororities that most often attend said parties. Even if this is a measure to prevent sexual assault, shouldn't the women be part of the discussion?

Plus this seems illogical. If the goal is to keep frat brothers from drinking themselves to death, the presence of women at these events is probably beneficial. Nobody wants to be vomiting or having to be backpacked with his girlfriend around. There is no chance of sex (for the men, at least) without staying conscious.
 
She's totally got a point. Barron proposes banning women from fraternity parties without even any discussion whatsoever with the sororities that most often attend said parties. Even if this is a measure to prevent sexual assault, shouldn't the women be part of the discussion?

Plus this seems illogical. If the goal is to keep frat brothers from drinking themselves to death, the presence of women at these events is probably beneficial. Nobody wants to be vomiting or having to be backpacked with his girlfriend around. There is no chance of sex (for the men, at least) without staying conscious.

So if the IFC picks girls, do the sororities have to come to the party? How ludicrous.
 
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Back in the day, dorms had "lobby monitors" so you supposedly couldn't sneak anyone in. Girls/guys beat this by using stairwell doors, or in certain dorms you could crawl/climb into 1st & 2nd floor windows. There were no door alarms.

I'm sure the frats were doing the same thing as necessary.

Barron couldn't monitor/eliminate alcohol, so how does he propose to do it with women? A knowledgeable person can beat/disable cameras.
It's all about making people 'feel' good that something is being done. Worthless BS
 
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They clearly were not a problem

I like the point that she makes that not only were they not a problem, they are also not the victims the administration wants them to be. My favorite part of her letter is "we need our administrators and officials to use the term “women” for more than just a sexual assault statistic."
But by not replying to their original letter, the Penn State administration wanted them to shut up and sit down.
I'm curious how our Trustees view the actions around this. I hope the vote to cap sorority enrollment (because diversity and inclusivity is just too much work) was not unanimous.
 
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She's totally got a point. Barron proposes banning women from fraternity parties without even any discussion whatsoever with the sororities that most often attend said parties. Even if this is a measure to prevent sexual assault, shouldn't the women be part of the discussion?

Plus this seems illogical. If the goal is to keep frat brothers from drinking themselves to death, the presence of women at these events is probably beneficial. Nobody wants to be vomiting or having to be backpacked with his girlfriend around. There is no chance of sex (for the men, at least) without staying conscious.

I don't think having girls at parties is going to change anything. Guys have been doing stupid things in front of women for years. Why expect it to change now?
 
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And, I have a feeling that someone or someones in the administration don't like sororities. They clearly were not a problem.
Well they have been a problem in the past. It's amazing how many sororities that existed when I want to PSU have been disbanded.
 
If I were PSU, and every college in the world, I would run the opposite direction of this stuff. This isn't the 1970's; all of you go off campus and do your own thing over there. Have as much booze, tail, or criminal activity as your heart desires. If you need to come on campus, you can rent locations for meetings or social events that are alcohol free with a zero tolerance response if you fail to adhere. Otherwise, you can take your liability issues some place else and away from PSU's influence, agenda, or guidance. At that point, if your son or daughter wants to get involved in these off campus clubs, everyone knows what they are signing up for.
 
She's totally got a point. Barron proposes banning women from fraternity parties without even any discussion whatsoever with the sororities that most often attend said parties. Even if this is a measure to prevent sexual assault, shouldn't the women be part of the discussion?

Plus this seems illogical. If the goal is to keep frat brothers from drinking themselves to death, the presence of women at these events is probably beneficial. Nobody wants to be vomiting or having to be backpacked with his girlfriend around. There is no chance of sex (for the men, at least) without staying conscious.

Perhaps he would let them attend the parties if they agreed to wear burkas. For their own good, we must control these temptresses.
 
If I were PSU, and every college in the world, I would run the opposite direction of this stuff. This isn't the 1970's; all of you go off campus and do your own thing over there. Have as much booze, tail, or criminal activity as your heart desires. If you need to come on campus, you can rent locations for meetings or social events that are alcohol free with a zero tolerance response if you fail to adhere. Otherwise, you can take your liability issues some place else and away from PSU's influence, agenda, or guidance. At that point, if your son or daughter wants to get involved in these off campus clubs, everyone knows what they are signing up for.

Since the thrust of this thread is about the sororities, I'm not sure how relevant your comments are. No sorority at PSU has a house. All of the sororities have a chapter room in a PSU dorm in South. In addition, the sororities have housing in the dorms in South in which they have their chapter room. Since their personal housing and chapter rooms are in PSU dorms, the no alcohol rules are in effect. The sororities do not stage parties in their chapter rooms. In short, PSU has no more liability for the sorority members than they do for any other students that live in a PSU dorm. (Also of note -- I'm pretty sure that less than half of the sorority members live in the PSU dorms.)
 
I like the point that she makes that not only were they not a problem, they are also not the victims the administration wants them to be. My favorite part of her letter is "we need our administrators and officials to use the term “women” for more than just a sexual assault statistic."
But by not replying to their original letter, the Penn State administration wanted them to shut up and sit down.
I'm curious how our Trustees view the actions around this. I hope the vote to cap sorority enrollment (because diversity and inclusivity is just too much work) was not unanimous.
Who says there was a vote?
 
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Since the thrust of this thread is about the sororities, I'm not sure how relevant your comments are. No sorority at PSU has a house. All of the sororities have a chapter room in a PSU dorm in South. In addition, the sororities have housing in the dorms in South in which they have their chapter room. Since their personal housing and chapter rooms are in PSU dorms, the no alcohol rules are in effect. The sororities do not stage parties in their chapter rooms. In short, PSU has no more liability for the sorority members than they do for any other students that live in a PSU dorm. (Also of note -- I'm pretty sure that less than half of the sorority members live in the PSU dorms.)

I am not so sure I agree with the bold statement. Someone who acts up in a dorm room does so as an individual; greek organizations act in a group setting with structure and supervision; and for on campus groups with blessings from the University. If that structure and supervision involves the "gauntlet" or any other dumb crap, an individual can be exposed to harm. Damaged individuals are exposed to harm because the group exists and the on-campus groups exist because PSU allows them to and fails to supervise them.

If I wasn't clear in my initial response, I would eliminate all of the greek presence on campus. I don't care what the rules are for the ladies (who says they follow the rules anyway?) As stated above, PSU is basically assuming some form of liability when they allow the groups to exist on campus. It only takes one rogue group , one idiot who can't follow the rules, or one smart attorney to realize that more bad headlines for the school will put a bunch of money in his pocket to expose you.

Today we are talking about a major event that happened with the men. But, sometime down the road, you may have an issue popup with the women and it most likely will have gone down on campus because that is where they all are. And sitting there with its thumb up its butt will be good'ole PSU.
 
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Barron's gotta finish reading the Freeh Report before he can start reading his mail. S/b getting back to the sororities in another few years or so. Maybe.
 
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When was that, if I might ask? That wasn't true in my day (late 1970s)--we were only required to be able to swim, and we had to take 3 gym and one health ed class.

Early 90's. Also got pulled into a date rape session with about 40 women who were having their dorm trained. I highly recommend anyone who has the opportunity to do so.
 
I am not so sure I agree with the bold statement. Someone who acts up in a dorm room does so as an individual; greek organizations act in a group setting with structure and supervision; and for on campus groups with blessings from the University. If that structure and supervision involves the "gauntlet" or any other dumb crap, an individual can be exposed to harm. Damaged individuals are exposed to harm because the group exists and the on-campus groups exist because PSU allows them to and fails to supervise them.

If I wasn't clear in my initial response, I would eliminate all of the greek presence on campus. I don't care what the rules are for the ladies (who says they follow the rules anyway?) As stated above, PSU is basically assuming some form of liability when they allow the groups to exist on campus. It only takes one rogue group , one idiot who can't follow the rules, or one smart attorney to realize that more bad headlines for the school will put a bunch of money in his pocket to expose you.

Today we are talking about a major event that happened with the men. But, sometime down the road, you may have an issue popup with the women and it most likely will have gone down on campus because that is where they all are. And sitting there with its thumb up its butt will be good'ole PSU.
So, does that mean we also get rid of Intercollegiate Athletics, intramurals, OTIS, the model railroad club, the Nittany Chemical Society, etc.?? Your arguments above apply equally.

The point is to get rid of the dumb behavior--as much as is possible. Getting rid of situation where "an individual can be exposed to harm"? Good luck with that. Life isn't safe. We all die eventually.

One case in particular I'm thinking about from my PSU days--the gal who was parked in Parking Lot 80 in the winter and had backed her car into deep snow. She warmed up her car--and died from CO poisoning. [I went to Germany on study abroad with her roomie later that school year]. Or the kid on 3rd floor Snyder who almost fell out of a window because he was racing another guy and was too drunk to stop. Happened by my dorm room door.

So should we ban cars and dorms?
 
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The Red faced Barron has a point, I suspect.

If the amount of "booze 'n cooze" available can be regulated, then they would stop driving guys wild to engage in bad and stupid behaviors.

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So, does that mean we also get rid of Intercollegiate Athletics, intramurals, OTIS, the model railroad club, the Nittany Chemical Society, etc.?? Your arguments above apply equally.

The point is to get rid of the dumb behavior--as much as is possible. Getting rid of situation where "an individual can be exposed to harm"? Good luck with that. Life isn't safe. We all die eventually.

One case in particular I'm thinking about from my PSU days--the gal who was parked in Parking Lot 80 in the winter and had backed her car into deep snow. She warmed up her car--and died from CO poisoning. [I went to Germany on study abroad with her roomie later that school year]. Or the kid on 3rd floor Snyder who almost fell out of a window because he was racing another guy and was too drunk to stop. Happened by my dorm room door.

So should we ban cars and dorms?
Perhaps the most salient example of an extracurricular group would be Thon. Have there been 2 fatal accidents so far? The liability there is worrisome: sending kids in all different directions to stand on street corners across the state? I believe they have done some reforms, but there is no way to eliminate all dangers.
 
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Perhaps the most salient example of an extracurricular group would be Thon. Have there been 2 fatal accidents so far? The liability there is worrisome: sending kids in all different directions to stand on street corners across the state? I believe they have done some reforms, but there is no way to eliminate all dangers.
I think they have curtailed "canning" in a big way--but that is a good example. It's also one of the positive things the Greek organizations do.

As I've noted, I was never in the Greek system, excepting a German honor fraternity (I attended the banquet and was not involved afterward). As a "delta gamma iota", when I came to school, I didn't think much of the system until I met a Tridelt in one of my German classes (taken to fulfill Chem requirements--you had to have senior level courses outside your major--and requirements for foreign studies). Maggie was a really nice person and treated this science geek really nicely. One thing I realized from that was that I needed to reassess my labeling of folks based on Greek affiliations.
 
So, does that mean we also get rid of Intercollegiate Athletics, intramurals, OTIS, the model railroad club, the Nittany Chemical Society, etc.?? Your arguments above apply equally.

The point is to get rid of the dumb behavior--as much as is possible. Getting rid of situation where "an individual can be exposed to harm"? Good luck with that. Life isn't safe. We all die eventually.

One case in particular I'm thinking about from my PSU days--the gal who was parked in Parking Lot 80 in the winter and had backed her car into deep snow. She warmed up her car--and died from CO poisoning. [I went to Germany on study abroad with her roomie later that school year]. Or the kid on 3rd floor Snyder who almost fell out of a window because he was racing another guy and was too drunk to stop. Happened by my dorm room door.

So should we ban cars and dorms?

Your two examples of the car and the drunk student involve individuals making choices that lead to their own harm, not PSU approved groups taking an action that leads to the harm of an individual. So, I don't think those two examples work.

Athletics are a bit different. The individual knows that his/her participation can lead to harm and recognizing that risk, the University supplies medical providers to treat same. Further, no individual groups exist within intramural or intercollegiate athletics so that the university has different athletes "pledging" to different factions on campus. There is only one football team and groups form only to participate in the intramural sport, not to exist on campus for other purposes beyond athletics. If an individual group that forms for an intramural sport does some sort of hazing, the University sanctioned the event, not the group.

Let's be honest about the on-campus sororities and the other on-campus clubs: I highly doubt the model train club has ever had documented issues of hazing its members, having its members associated with physical/sexual abuse, or excessive alcohol or drug consumption. Sororities and Frats have a preconceived status in pop culture that is one of excess, rule breaking, and generally sanctioned participation in excessive alcohol activities; so they get extra media attention. Try as hard as they might, the chemical society will never have that reputation. And for the on-campus greek groups, it only takes one rogue group, one idiot who can't follow the rules, or one smart attorney to realize that more bad headlines for the school will put a bunch of money in his pocket to expose PSU. Again, when a group has a history and PSU is permitting them to remain on-campus without extremely tight supervision, they are asking to be sued.
 
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Your two examples of the car and the drunk student involve individuals making choices that lead to their own harm, not PSU approved groups taking an action that leads to the harm of an individual. So, I don't think those two examples work.

Athletics are a bit different. The individual knows that his/her participation can lead to harm and recognizing that risk, the University supplies medical providers to treat same. Further, no individual groups exist within intramural or intercollegiate athletics so that the university has different athletes "pledging" to different factions on campus. There is only one football team and groups form only to participate in the intramural sport, not to exist on campus for other purposes beyond athletics. If an individual group that forms for an intramural sport does some sort of hazing, the University sanctioned the event, not the group.

Let's be honest about the on-campus sororities and the other on-campus clubs: I highly doubt the model train club has ever had documented issues of hazing its members, having its members associated with physical/sexual abuse, or excessive alcohol or drug consumption. Sororities and Frats have a preconceived status in pop culture that is one of excess, rule breaking, and generally sanctioned participation in excessive alcohol activities; so they get extra media attention. Try as hard as they might, the chemical society will never have that reputation. And for the on-campus greek groups, it only takes one rogue group, one idiot who can't follow the rules, or one smart attorney to realize that more bad headlines for the school will put a bunch of money in his pocket to expose PSU. Again, when a group has a history and PSU is permitting them to remain on-campus without extremely tight supervision, they are asking to be sued.
Dorms and parking lots are under the supervision of the University. You also have "interest houses" within some dorms--which in many ways are similar to the sororities, as they have been part of the dorm system for quite some time now. And if you think interest houses don't party....

But your point was
Someone who acts up in a dorm room does so as an individual; greek organizations act in a group setting with structure and supervision; and for on campus groups with blessings from the University.

That's no different from the groups I mentioned. They are in a group setting with structure and supervision, with the blessing of the university. And if you think the chem club didn't have parties where alcohol existed, well....

In the case we are talking about here, the sororities seem to have been on good behavior for some time now and are and always have been under stricter controls, being in the dorms. I see no major reason for coming down on them as hard as they are doing to the frats. Except that they have Greek letters associated with their organizations.

I have no problem with punishing the guilty. But this treatment of sororities is akin to some of the guilty even if proven innocent stuff Ms Vicky did that got her fired.
 
Perhaps he would let them attend the parties if they agreed to wear burkas. For their own good, we must control these temptresses.
I'm pretty sure women who wear burkas are subject to sexual abuse in their Arab countries at a rate which probably exceeds sorority girls in the USA. Sex abuse is often about power and violence, and not just something involving a kid getting his rocks off. It's serious - and it happens all over the world. PSU fans should be the last people on earth to joke about it.
 
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Dorms and parking lots are under the supervision of the University. You also have "interest houses" within some dorms--which in many ways are similar to the sororities, as they have been part of the dorm system for quite some time now. And if you think interest houses don't party....

But your point was


That's no different from the groups I mentioned. They are in a group setting with structure and supervision, with the blessing of the university. And if you think the chem club didn't have parties where alcohol existed, well....

In the case we are talking about here, the sororities seem to have been on good behavior for some time now and are and always have been under stricter controls, being in the dorms. I see no major reason for coming down on them as hard as they are doing to the frats. Except that they have Greek letters associated with their organizations.

I have no problem with punishing the guilty. But this treatment of sororities is akin to some of the guilty even if proven innocent stuff Ms Vicky did that got her fired.
Part of good governance is eliminating an environment which is dangerous or risky at these events. Why do we think it's OK for fraternities to serve underage students ahcohol at their events? If the legal drinking age was 18, I'd be OK with it. But it's not. Kids get drunk, commit sex abuse, or have dangerous conscentual sex, and do stupid things. Taking steps to reduce that behavior seems reasonable.
 
Part of good governance is eliminating an environment which is dangerous or risky at these events. Why do we think it's OK for fraternities to serve underage students ahcohol at their events? If the legal drinking age was 18, I'd be OK with it. But it's not. Kids get drunk, commit sex abuse, or have dangerous conscentual sex, and do stupid things. Taking steps to reduce that behavior seems reasonable.


What happens when the stats go UP? Did the number of problems go down when the age was raised? Maybe it is time to lower it. Good governance 101.
 
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Part of good governance is eliminating an environment which is dangerous or risky at these events. Why do we think it's OK for fraternities to serve underage students ahcohol at their events? If the legal drinking age was 18, I'd be OK with it. But it's not. Kids get drunk, commit sex abuse, or have dangerous conscentual sex, and do stupid things. Taking steps to reduce that behavior seems reasonable.
The issue we were talking about here is sororities--which are handled differently at PSU--no houses, for one.

With the frat in question, they had video monitoring in place--put in place to reduce that bad behavior. It was ignored--though the courts won't. I wonder why someone wasn't monitoring that.
 
What happens when the stats go UP? Did the number of problems go down when the age was raised? Maybe it is time to lower it. Good governance 101.
Im not sure. Clearly in some countries like France where wine with meals is tradition for families, alcohol problems seem less evident. But in England, where the drinking age is 18, problems are rampant, often with 16 year olds pushing the limits. It doesn't seem fair that soldiers can off and die fighting for a country where they can't buy a beer. But these problems require evidence based evaluations to know what all the impacts are. For now we have to live with the laws we've got, or change them.
 

So yeah, Beta. This is the part that confuses me. Based on the fact that the police (state I think?) swooped in the next day and arrested the managing brother for a laundry list of drug dealing charges, no one seems to be factoring this in to their behavior. According to the report, this brother had been under surveillance for months and a large amount of drugs, money, and other stuff was found in his room. He was running a large operation.

I live on a farm (but do have central air-conditioning) and don't get out much, but it seems reasonable to me that other people at Beta knew about his activities. Which might, or might not, explain why they didn't get help sooner. This is complete speculation on my part but I think that when a group begins to make bad decisions and get away with it, they continue to make bad decisions.

What is not speculation is that Dr Barron had at least one documented drug ring operating for quite a while on his campus. Was he in communication with whomever was running the surveillance? Was Penn State cooperating? Did the advisor living at the house know about the drug business? Are all these knee-jerk behaviors a cover-up for him failing to address this situation? Someone who used to occupy his office is going to jail for considerably less.

Maybe Dr Barron's ultimatum for Parent's Weekend to the fraternities about 'booze or girls' should have been 'booze or illegal drug activity or girls'. Yes, clearly alcohol abuse at Penn State is a huge problem across all groups that has been ignored for ages and now dropped in his lap. This problem requires cooperation and input from everyone, including women.

But I think the problem of recognized, and even lauded, campus groups running drug rings on campus is a bigger problem that can be solved without blowing up an entire community.
 
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