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I am anti Rahne
If your like me me I would like to see him replaced. With that being said.

who would you want??

I wonder if I am making too much of nothing like buying hurricane insurance in Iowa
 
sunshinedynomite said:
I am anti Rahne
If your like me me I would like to see him replaced. With that being said.

who would you want??

I wonder if I am making too much of nothing like buying hurricane insurance in Iowa
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7-0, ranked #6 and you start a thread discussing who to replace our OC with...yeah, that’s normal. Maybe if we go undefeated we can replace the whole staff...out with em all.
 
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sunshinedynomite said:
I am anti Rahne
If your like me me I would like to see him replaced. With that being said.

who would you want??

I wonder if I am making too much of nothing like buying hurricane insurance in Iowa
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Why?
Take a couple of minutes and explain -WHY WOULD YOU CREATE A THREAD LIKE THIS?
I’m just shaking my head. Honestly, I question whether you’re truly a fan, or if you can’t find anything to do on Saturdays August to December.

OL
 
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Ryan Day.

I'm not a Rahne fan, but predicting assistant coaching replacements is about as silly as it gets, particularly when it's not happening.
 
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sunshinedynomite said:
I am anti Rahne
If your like me me I would like to see him replaced. With that being said.

who would you want??

I wonder if I am making too much of nothing like buying hurricane insurance in Iowa
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These are the type of posts that got you banned by the Pitt site and why you annoy mods here.
 
sunshinedynomite said:
I am anti Rahne
If your like me me I would like to see him replaced. With that being said.

who would you want??

I wonder if I am making too much of nothing like buying hurricane insurance in Iowa
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sunshinedynomite said:
I am anti Rahne
If your like me me I would like to see him replaced. With that being said.

who would you want??

I wonder if I am making too much of nothing like buying hurricane insurance in Iowa
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No, you just need to learn football and what's actually going on. This is as bad as those screaming for Cain to run against a front 7 who's sole purpose is to stop the run. This is why Franklin is a coach and you're not.
 
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AWS1022 said:
7-0, ranked #6 and you start a thread discussing who to replace our OC with...yeah, that’s normal. Maybe if we go undefeated we can replace the whole staff...out with em all.
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There would be no better time. Penn State would be an extremely attractive destination.
;)
 
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I am willing to bet the chances of Rahne getting fired are somewhere right around 0%. I also am guessing there is no chance Franklin makes a move while he has a returning starting QB who has come up with Rahne.

What I do know, Franklin will invest a lot of time into making Rahne as good as he possibly can. Rahne offers a ton of stability and has said he doesn’t see head coaching in his future. If Franklin can keep Rahne learning and growing in this position it offers him something a lot of other schools can’t, stability of coordinators. Pry is kind of the same way, he is very happy and content in his current position and I feel like he won’t jump for just any job like Moorhead did. It will take something pretty enticing to get Pry to consider leaving.

I am not a huge Rahne fan but he has grown over the last 2 years and I am a believer that coaches can learn and become better coordinators and game managers. Rahne is a smart guy and I am willing to give him a chance to become a good OC.
 
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PennStateTurf2002 said:
I am willing to bet the chances of Rahne getting fired are somewhere right around 0%. I also am guessing there is no chance Franklin makes a move while he has a returning starting QB who has come up with Rahne.

What I do know, Franklin will invest a lot of time into making Rahne as good as he possibly can. Rahne offers a ton of stability and has said he doesn’t see head coaching in his future. If Franklin can keep Rahne learning and growing in this position it offers him something a lot of other schools can’t, stability of coordinators. Pry is kind of the same way, he is very happy and content in his current position and I feel like he won’t jump for just any job like Moorhead did. It will take something pretty enticing to get Pry to consider leaving.

I am not a huge Rahne fan but he has grown over the last 2 years and I am a believer that coaches can learn and become better coordinators and game managers. Rahne is a smart guy and I am willing to give him a chance to become a good OC.
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If Rahne has to be developed at this stage of his career something is dreadfully wrong. He's a year younger than Ryan Day.
 
PennStateTurf2002 said:
I am willing to bet the chances of Rahne getting fired are somewhere right around 0%. I also am guessing there is no chance Franklin makes a move while he has a returning starting QB who has come up with Rahne.

What I do know, Franklin will invest a lot of time into making Rahne as good as he possibly can. Rahne offers a ton of stability and has said he doesn’t see head coaching in his future. If Franklin can keep Rahne learning and growing in this position it offers him something a lot of other schools can’t, stability of coordinators. Pry is kind of the same way, he is very happy and content in his current position and I feel like he won’t jump for just any job like Moorhead did. It will take something pretty enticing to get Pry to consider leaving.

I am not a huge Rahne fan but he has grown over the last 2 years and I am a believer that coaches can learn and become better coordinators and game managers. Rahne is a smart guy and I am willing to give him a chance to become a good OC.
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Good points. I think a very big chunk of Clemson's success over the last few years is due to their consistency of coordinators. Disagree with you about Pry tho- I think he'll be a head coach pretty soon
 
cjrugger said:
Good points. I think a very big chunk of Clemson's success over the last few years is due to their consistency of coordinators. Disagree with you about Pry tho- I think he'll be a head coach pretty soon
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Don't mistake stability for excellence. And if it hadn't been for nepotism, Venables might still be at Oklahoma, maybe as head coach.
 
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Not sure how I’m supposed to judge an OC that has successfully limited the errors from a first year QB who regularly misses throws and locks in on one receiver instead of going through progressions. (Things which should be expected from a first year qb)
 
mcgunns said:
Not sure how I’m supposed to judge an OC that has successfully limited the errors from a first year QB who regularly misses throws and locks in on one receiver instead of going through progressions. (Things which should be expected from a first year qb)
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Did Trevor Lawrence do those things as a true freshman? I thought coaching, among other things, was supposed to remedy that stuff. Lest we overlook it, Rahne is also the QB coach and has been for two years.
 
Art said:
Don't mistake stability for excellence. And if it hadn't been for nepotism, Venables might still be at Oklahoma, maybe as head coach.
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But he’s not, so not sure why I’d care

And it’s absurd to think someone would not get better at a new job as they do it. But as usual, you’ve got it all figured out
 
Art said:
Did Trevor Lawrence do those things as a true freshman? I thought coaching, among other things, was supposed to remedy that stuff. Lest we overlook it, Rahne is also the QB coach and has been for two years.
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How depressing is it to have a national title as your standard and expectation every year?
 
Art said:
Did Trevor Lawrence do those things as a true freshman? I thought coaching, among other things, was supposed to remedy that stuff. Lest we overlook it, Rahne is also the QB coach and has been for two years.
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Apparently the OC has coached him to do worse this year.
 
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But he’s not, so not sure why I’d care

And it’s absurd to think someone would not get better at a new job as they do it. But as usual, you’ve got it all figured out
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Seems you've never heard of the Peter Principle.
 
stormingnorm said:
Without getting into a full breakdown…. there were two (maybe three) significant offensive "gameplan" adjustments made for the UMich game.
Most probably know what they were.... but:

1) The increased utilization of Empty Backfield sets

2) The re-introduction of the "swing/flat" pass to the TB

(A third could be the specific "Outside Read Option" play involving Hamler.... that play run on the 3rd and 3 in the final minutes)



Empty Backfield... 7 Snaps:

1st and 10: Swing Pass to TB in flat - Incomplete
2nd and 10: Straight Drop, pass complete to TE on out cut for 4 yards
3rd and 6: Straight Drop, pass complete on crossing route to slot receiver for -1 yard.

2nd and 6: Swing Pass to TB in flat, complete for -2 yards

3rd and 8: Quarterback Draw for 10 yards

1st and 10: Straight Drop, pass complete to slot receiver on curl route for 4 yards

2nd and 8: Straight Drop. Heavy QB pressure, throw away

7 plays out of empty backfield.

6 passes (complete 5 of 6 for a TOTAL of 3 yards... w one heavily pressured "throwaway")
1 QB Draw (which worked well for a 10 yard pick up)


Swing Passes to TB... 5 Snaps:

In addition to the two listed above out of the empty backfield, ran 3 more:

2nd and 8: Incomplete
2nd and 9: Complete for 4 yards
1st and 10: Complete for -4 yards

Total from the TB swing passes:
5 plays... 3 completions.... TOTAL gain of -2 yards



The TB swing passes were the most head-scratching emphasis of a play for a particular defense that one could imagine.

Against a defense that plays VERY HEAVY man (like 75% of the time)… to try to throw those passes knowing (in all likelihood) that a defender was going to aggressively lock on and follow that TB out into the flat... is just.... IDK. Just stupid, I guess. (Even more so after throwing ZERO of them vs Iowa - who is about as heavy a ZONE defense as we will ever see)


IDK what THEY expected from those TB Swing Passes and Empty Backfields- against a defense like UMich..... but I don't think it was hard to anticipate that what they did get is exactly what one should have expected from them :)



(FWIW: The use of Hamler as a motion guy into the backfield could, I think lead to some interesting options.... though I would not hope to see it again in that "short yardage third down" type situation that we saw on Saturday - - - - even though it, of course, worked to gain the first down vs UMich)
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so you think it is stupid to get one of our RB's one on one with a LBer out in space? OK.
 
Art said:
If Rahne has to be developed at this stage of his career something is dreadfully wrong. He's a year younger than Ryan Day.
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Sorry disagree. In people years yes but Day has been a coach since '02 and an OC since '12 and has worked as a QB coach in the Pros.
Rahne has been a coach since '04, and an OC for only 1.5 years and has never been a coach in the NFL so yea I think there is some wiggle room for Rahne to be "developed".
 
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First off, I know that being 7-0 means that we’re perfect in every aspect of the game, and that we don’t have any fixable weaknesses that will end up costing us against better competition.

With that said, I’d be interested in seeing if Joe Brady is ready and willing to take the job. He’s officially LSU’s passing game coordinator right now, and has gained national recognition and credit for how well LSU’s offense has been playing. He was also a graduate assistant at Penn State from 2015-16, and his LSU bio claims that he has “extensive knowledge of the run-pass option (RPO) game” so that we wouldn’t be making an extreme change in philosophy.

Here are the first google news results when searching for him:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...bba44e-eb7f-11e9-9c6d-436a0df4f31d_story.html

https://www.theplainsman.com/articl...rady-turning-lsu-passing-game-into-juggernaut
 
Art said:
Seems you've never heard of the Peter Principle.
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So you're saying Tony Elliott and Jeff Scott reached their level of incompetence this year? Why is Trevor Lawrence throwing so many INTs?
 
Football79Dude said:
First off, I know that being 7-0 means that we’re perfect in every aspect of the game, and that we don’t have any fixable weaknesses that will end up costing us against better competition.

With that said, I’d be interested in seeing if Joe Brady is ready and willing to take the job. He’s officially LSU’s passing game coordinator right now, and has gained national recognition and credit for how well LSU’s offense has been playing. He was also a graduate assistant at Penn State from 2015-16, and his LSU bio claims that he has “extensive knowledge of the run-pass option (RPO) game” so that we wouldn’t be making an extreme change in philosophy.

Here are the first google news results when searching for him:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...bba44e-eb7f-11e9-9c6d-436a0df4f31d_story.html

https://www.theplainsman.com/articl...rady-turning-lsu-passing-game-into-juggernaut
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You already tried this. It was a dud then too

https://bwi.forums.rivals.com/threa...-penn-state-ga-joe-brady.250144/#post-4408391
 
Football79Dude said:
Because he’s a good candidate, and nothing has changed since. If I suggested someone else this time, would you accuse me of flip-flopping?
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The job isn't open and isn't going to become open, so I'm not sure why you're wasting your time finding candidates
 
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