FC: Auriemma says that men's college basketball is a joke
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That's like someone that likes an unpopular genre of music saying that the popular genre of music sucks. You can like whatever you like but obviously the popular genre is liked by more people than the unpopular genre.
And I don't think men rely less on fundamentals but rather it's just that because their athletic level is different than women their fundamentals are different to a degree too. If you trained a male in fundamentals like they train females then he'd be a worse player because the fundamentals they teach females are for females playing against other females. If you're a male playing against other males then both you and your opponent are more athletic than females and so you need different fundamentals.
And I don't think men rely less on fundamentals but rather it's just that because their athletic level is different than women their fundamentals are different to a degree too. If you trained a male in fundamentals like they train females then he'd be a worse player because the fundamentals they teach females are for females playing against other females. If you're a male playing against other males then both you and your opponent are more athletic than females and so you need different fundamentals.
I coached men's HS BB in the Philadelphia Public League for 14 years. My teams were not championship quality, but were competitive. Granted I retired from coaching about 25 years ago. I have to agree to some degree "fundamentals" are lacking, but the physical ability has negated much of that. To be honest woman's BB is NOT the same sport because of the athleticism. Physically my teams had more "ability" than the Connecticut woman's team but "fundamentals - i.e. passing the ball, playing "team" defense was always a challenge. So I understand his point, but "fundamentals" make the women's game work 
89-33, 91-55, & 105-54 have been UConn's last three games
and these aren't crappy NCAA teams, they are the first, second and third round scores to get UConn into the NCAA FINAL FOUR.
While you have to congratulate them on being able to completely dominate, you also have to ask if something is wrong when one team has so much talent. Is it really worth watching?
and these aren't crappy NCAA teams, they are the first, second and third round scores to get UConn into the NCAA FINAL FOUR.
While you have to congratulate them on being able to completely dominate, you also have to ask if something is wrong when one team has so much talent. Is it really worth watching?
It's not just "talent" though. Watch UConn play - they're very well coached
Watch them play defense, watch their offensive sets, watch them hustle for 40 minutes. No other women's college team does certain things better than UConn. And yes, they have talent, but I think their remarkable success is a combination of the two (players and coaching).
Watch them play defense, watch their offensive sets, watch them hustle for 40 minutes. No other women's college team does certain things better than UConn. And yes, they have talent, but I think their remarkable success is a combination of the two (players and coaching).
Geno is so full of himself....he needs to just pipe down. He is a great coach but comments like these make him seem like a moron.
A few years ago Artie Lange from the Howard Stern show played 1:1
against a former PSU woman's BB player and beat her pretty soundly. If you ever saw Artie Lange back in the day then you would know that his beating a D1A women's BB player from a good WBB school tells you all you need to know about the caliber of WBB compared to men's. It was downright embarrasing and was pretty damning of WBB.
Also, I remember several years back when Auriemma went off on PSU saying PSU was arrogant and thought they were the top name school in the whole NE (he was right of course. I think Geno's diatribes reflect a deepseated insecurity over his chosen profession.
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against a former PSU woman's BB player and beat her pretty soundly. If you ever saw Artie Lange back in the day then you would know that his beating a D1A women's BB player from a good WBB school tells you all you need to know about the caliber of WBB compared to men's. It was downright embarrasing and was pretty damning of WBB.
Also, I remember several years back when Auriemma went off on PSU saying PSU was arrogant and thought they were the top name school in the whole NE (he was right of course
. I think Geno's diatribes reflect a deepseated insecurity over his chosen profession.This post was edited on 4/2 2:25 PM by JoeBatters1
UConn's Fundamentals Have Been Outstanding For As Long As I Can Remember!
It's almost a shock when a UConn player doesn't box out.....makes a bad pass.....takes a bad shot.....commits a dumb foul.
It happens.....but just not very often.
It's almost a shock when a UConn player doesn't box out.....makes a bad pass.....takes a bad shot.....commits a dumb foul.
It happens.....but just not very often.
Re: A few years ago Artie Lange from the Howard Stern show played 1:1
And Marissa was not exactly a star player. Her career stats for PSU were 61 games, 95 points, 99 rebounds, 25 assists, 20 steals and 4 blocks. I think the only game she started was her senior night.
http://www.recordonline.com/article/20030426/Sports/304269981
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Ummm.....I'm not sure what planet you live on, but Artie LOST to Marissa Graby. Artie went up early with some lucky outside shots, but Marissa came back and won 16-14. Marissa couldn't shoot to save her life and Artie played hack a shaq.
And Marissa was not exactly a star player. Her career stats for PSU were 61 games, 95 points, 99 rebounds, 25 assists, 20 steals and 4 blocks. I think the only game she started was her senior night.
http://www.recordonline.com/article/20030426/Sports/304269981
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Re: 89-33, 91-55, & 105-54 have been UConn's last three games
Beside the difference and athleticism, this is the one area of women's basketball that makes it unwatchable. Basically, any year there are only three, maybe four, teams that can possibly win the national title and two of them are named UConn and Tennessee every year. Yeah occasionally another team breaks through and has a "one hit wonder" type year but by far UConn and Tennessee have dominated that sport (especially recently).
The fact is, the UConn team does not face the gauntlet that your average men's team faces every year. Men's bball has much deeper talent on each team and in terms of good teams per conference. There is much much more depth overall. Half the time it's not even worth it to UConn to step on the floor because they've been guaranteed to win before they even started.
Beside the difference and athleticism, this is the one area of women's basketball that makes it unwatchable. Basically, any year there are only three, maybe four, teams that can possibly win the national title and two of them are named UConn and Tennessee every year. Yeah occasionally another team breaks through and has a "one hit wonder" type year but by far UConn and Tennessee have dominated that sport (especially recently).
The fact is, the UConn team does not face the gauntlet that your average men's team faces every year. Men's bball has much deeper talent on each team and in terms of good teams per conference. There is much much more depth overall. Half the time it's not even worth it to UConn to step on the floor because they've been guaranteed to win before they even started.
This is a case where the eyes lie IMO and anlaytics show another side.
Wisconsin at one point late in the season had the highest offensive efficiency (125 points per 100 possessions) D1 has even seen, not sure where they ended. Many other schools had very high offensive efficiencies. I can't find overall D1 ratings over the years, by suspect on average each college division is at all time highs. These guys shoot better than ever IMO on average, sure there are some big men or penetrate only point guards that can't shoot a lick, but IMO as a coach and student of basketball, shooting skills, individual skills, and fundamentals and techniques are at all time high.
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Wisconsin at one point late in the season had the highest offensive efficiency (125 points per 100 possessions) D1 has even seen, not sure where they ended. Many other schools had very high offensive efficiencies. I can't find overall D1 ratings over the years, by suspect on average each college division is at all time highs. These guys shoot better than ever IMO on average, sure there are some big men or penetrate only point guards that can't shoot a lick, but IMO as a coach and student of basketball, shooting skills, individual skills, and fundamentals and techniques are at all time high.
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Re: A few years ago Artie Lange from the Howard Stern show played 1:1
Won or lost he still gave a girl from a major D1 program a run to the wire. Point is they are not that good. Most women's programs will ask guys from the regular student body to be "practice players" for them. Most often, these guys win.
Won or lost he still gave a girl from a major D1 program a run to the wire. Point is they are not that good. Most women's programs will ask guys from the regular student body to be "practice players" for them. Most often, these guys win.
NCAA Mens hoops is not really Intercollegiate athletics. Sure NCAA universities sponsor their teams. But right now, they are nothing more than NBA minor league teams. I would imagine these Freshmen like the one-and-dones that go to Kentucky, can almost avoid attending classes before being drafted.
The NBA should rule not to draft kids unless they complete Frosh & Soph years. Either that or they should in some way start funding NCAA Hoops...in a major way.
The NBA should rule not to draft kids unless they complete Frosh & Soph years. Either that or they should in some way start funding NCAA Hoops...in a major way.
Re: A few years ago Artie Lange from the Howard Stern show played 1:1
Use logic to support your argument. Don't use lies. Or is that asking too much?
Someone who is physically stronger, faster, etc. will most likely beat someone that is physically weaker, slower, etc. Just because a heavyweight boxer would probably beat the snot out of a welterweight doesn't mean the welterweight isn't a good boxer.
Use logic to support your argument. Don't use lies. Or is that asking too much?
Auriemma has earned the right to say anything he pleases. . He will go down as the greatest women's basketball coach ever. I'd be willing to wager if he were the PSU coach he would have us in the NCAA tournament every year. He does not accept mediocrity, or worse yet failure.
I wonder if he's ever been tempted to switch to coaching the men? And I wonder if he'd have as much success? No doubt he'd be as good a coach - that much he's proven - but with the talent level far more vast and even, it'd be interesting to see how good his teams would be. With the size of his ego, I'm really surprised that he hasn't tried...as is, his legacy will be being the biggest fish in a small pond.
