FC: First Footage from HBO's 'Paterno' film....

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Saw this last night; it's a quick ad for a bunch of HBO programming in 2018 and there is a really brief clip of the movie - you get a quick shot of Paterno coaching the team and Pacino in action. Go to the :40 second mark. As an aside, was this movie always going to be called 'Paterno'?

 

[Obliviax]

Thanks....I guess we will see how "fair" hollywood is (at least, HBO) when this film is released.

Key point will be what they assume when they review that "after discussing with Joe" email.

I am hopeful that the movie talks about the juxtaposition older people experience when there is a game changer. I hope they have a scene with one of the Paterno sons explaining to Joe what anal sex is.

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Thanks....I guess we will see how "fair" hollywood is (at least, HBO) when this film is released.

Key point will be what they assume when they review that "after discussing with Joe" email.

I am hopeful that the movie talks about the juxtaposition older people experience when there is a game changer. I hope they have a scene with one of the Paterno sons explaining to Joe what anal sex is.

You can find a lot out about the movie just by looking at the cast (and which 'characters' there are). A few noteworthy items....

- No actor listed as 'Jerry Sandusky'. There is one actor without a role listed, but he is too young and too different looking from Sandusky to be him IMO. They do have an unknown actor listed as 'Young Jerry Sandusky' whatever that means, which seems to be a minor role.

- There is no Sue Paterno.

- Tom Bradley and Ron Vanderlin are listed as characters.

- Drew Astorino is the only football player name I see.

- There is apparently a 'Penn State Shower Fight'.

- Someone named 'Andrea' appears to be a big role - the actress playing her is listed third after Riley Keough (Sara Ganim) who has top billing, and then Al Pacino (Paterno).

 

[PrtLng Lion]

I'm too afraid that watching it will jack up my blood pressure. Already dislike much of Hollywood and the MSM, so to see such an investment made to continue the false narrative (if that's what this turns out to be)...

 

[uscgPSU]

I'm too afraid that watching it will jack up my blood pressure. Already dislike much of Hollywood and the MSM, so to see such an investment made to continue the false narrative (if that's what this turns out to be)...

I don’t want to watch it but I can see myself sitting and watching it, shaking my head, and muttering under my breath for two hours.

 

[Obliviax]

You can find a lot out about the movie just by looking at the cast (and which 'characters' there are). A few noteworthy items....

- No actor listed as 'Jerry Sandusky'. There is one actor without a role listed, but he is too young and too different looking from Sandusky to be him IMO. They do have an unknown actor listed as 'Young Jerry Sandusky' whatever that means, which seems to be a minor role.

- There is no Sue Paterno.

- Tom Bradley and Ron Vanderlin are listed as characters.

- Drew Astorino is the only football player name I see.

- There is apparently a 'Penn State Shower Fight'.

- Someone named 'Andrea' appears to be a big role - the actress playing her is listed third after Riley Keough (Sara Ganim) who has top billing, and then Al Pacino (Paterno).

just for fun, here is my prediction:

The movie is about Sarah Ganim and how wonderful her efforts were to bring a monster to justice. Hollywood loves reporters.

The Paterno angle is just to get viewers (as we've seen 1000 times before).

 

[ChiTownLion]

Wonder if they'll be able to squeeze in the damage that continues to ruin reputations and careers in real time. ie, Greg Schiano.

 

[83wuzme]

Hollywood doesn’t do history.

 

[didier]

- Someone named 'Andrea' appears to be a big role - the actress playing her is listed third after Riley Keough (Sara Ganim) who has top billing, and then Al Pacino (Paterno).

Andrea DiMaggio from Pennlive!

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

Andrea DiMaggio from Pennlive!

Ooooooohhhhhh......

 

[PearlSUJam]

just for fun, here is my prediction:

The movie is about Sarah Ganim and how wonderful her efforts were to bring a monster to justice. Hollywood loves reporters.

The Paterno angle is just to get viewers (as we've seen 1000 times before).

Judging by this, you're too not far off.

"Ganim, now with CNN, is a consultant on the film. She told reporters she had a “mild panic attack” at one point watching Keough play a scene from her life."

http://www.philly.com/philly/entert...dium=social&cid=Philly.com+Facebook&mobi=true

 

[razpsu]

If it is not tough enough on paterno and penn state then the media will crush hbo. Hbo will never put itself in that position. It is going to be bad. I wonder if at some point they take an artistic view of paterno contemplating the program vs doing what is right.

 

[PSU.:.]

Knowing how unfair and inaccurate Hollywood is I'm expecting alot of PSU fans will be a bit angry over this film.
I have a hard time believing they will be fair to Paterno.

 

[NittanyLionRoar]

Who’s going to want to watch this? Certainly not penn state fans. And certainly not anyone else...even if the rest of the world believes the bs, ESPECIALLY if they believe the bs, no one is going to be like, “hey you know what I’m in the mood for, a pedophilia movie.”

 

[Connorpozlee]

Judging by this, you're too not far off.

"Ganim, now with CNN, is a consultant on the film. She told reporters she had a “mild panic attack” at one point watching Keough play a scene from her life."

http://www.philly.com/philly/entert...dium=social&cid=Philly.com+Facebook&mobi=true

However, she had to cut the interview with reporters short so she could cover a morning fog situation near the Charles River.

 

[LafayetteBear]

I won't be watching this. Period.

 

[wbcincy]

Who’s going to want to watch this? Certainly not penn state fans. And certainly not anyone else...even if the rest of the world believes the bs, ESPECIALLY if they believe the bs, no one is going to be like, “hey you know what I’m in the mood for, a pedophilia movie.”

Guess you missed the 2015 Best Picture winner, Spotlight...

 

[wbcincy]

If it is not tough enough on paterno and penn state then the media will crush hbo. Hbo will never put itself in that position. It is going to be bad. I wonder if at some point they take an artistic view of paterno contemplating the program vs doing what is right.

You can bet on it. I've been saying since the start there'll be a scene where Paterno starts yelling that he doesn't give a damn, he only cares about football and he's not having some kids tear down his program and reputation.

There is exactly a 0% chance they take a measured approach with the slightest benefit of a single doubt.

 

[SaquonCappelletti]

Who’s going to want to watch this? Certainly not penn state fans. And certainly not anyone else...even if the rest of the world believes the bs, ESPECIALLY if they believe the bs, no one is going to be like, “hey you know what I’m in the mood for, a pedophilia movie.”

This movie is a key part of Pacino's "comeback," which we'll see unfold with some highly marketed films in the next two years. Trust me, the HBO hype machine will make this movie a big deal, if not an award nominee.

Frankly, this board will probably hate the film. I get that. But in that clip, Pacino looks and sounds like Paterno. I hope it's a fair portrait of Paterno, but it certainly looks like it's going to have high production value. It'll be a good film. Hopefully an accurate one, too.

 

[83wuzme]

Guess you missed the 2015 Best Picture winner, Spotlight...

Hollywood will never put out anything about sexual abuse in the entertainment industry, and its certainly not for lack of subject material.
Its their hypocrisy I can’t stand.

 

[supermatt24]

Judging by this, you're too not far off.

"Ganim, now with CNN, is a consultant on the film. She told reporters she had a “mild panic attack” at one point watching Keough play a scene from her life."

http://www.philly.com/philly/entert...dium=social&cid=Philly.com+Facebook&mobi=true

I'm out.

 

[interrobang]

The fact that Sarah Ganim is a consultant for the film says all you need to know about the film

 

[pandaczar12]

Saw this last night; it's a quick ad for a bunch of HBO programming in 2018 and there is a really brief clip of the movie - you get a quick shot of Paterno coaching the team and Pacino in action. Go to the :40 second mark. As an aside, was this movie always going to be called 'Paterno'?

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[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

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You don’t even have to do that - you can link the YouTube video at a specific time when right clicking. I just didn’t do that. Sorry for the inconvenience.

 

[pandaczar12]

You don’t even have to do that - you can link the YouTube video at a specific time when right clicking. I just didn’t do that. Sorry for the inconvenience.

No worries, always like to share tips and tricks.

 

[Zenophile]

Candidly what I'd like to see made is a film about Paterno's entire, well-documented life as it would force folks to learn about Joe Paterno prior to the media's portrayal of him in November 2011.

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

This movie is a key part of Pacino's "comeback," which we'll see unfold with some highly marketed films in the next two years. Trust me, the HBO hype machine will make this movie a big deal, if not an award nominee.

Frankly, this board will probably hate the film. I get that. But in that clip, Pacino looks and sounds like Paterno. I hope it's a fair portrait of Paterno, but it certainly looks like it's going to have high production value. It'll be a good film. Hopefully an accurate one, too.

Nobody does over the top, sanctimonious monologues better than Pacino. This will be bad. With ganim on board as a consultant, it’s pretty obvious what version of “accurate” they’re peddling.

Hey HBO, we have new emails that prove McQueary’s testimony was embellished by the AG...should we incorporate this evidence into our story?

Nah!!

 

[Player2BNamedL8r]

This from another article:
Al Pacino on HBO’s Joe Paterno Movie: ‘The Question Isn’t Just What He Knew, It’s What He Did About It’
Ben Travers
January 11, 2018 8:25PM EST


Al Pacino isn’t exactly unfamiliar with playing historical figures, so far be it from us or anyone to tell him how to prepare for a role. If the Oscar-winning actor — who was Emmy-nominated for playing Phil Spector and won the award for portraying Roy Cohn — doesn’t need to go to the Penn St. University campus to prepare for his role as disgraced college football coach Joe Paterno, he doesn’t have to.

“I didn’t go,” Pacino said, speaking via satellite during HBO’s TCA presentation Thursday afternoon. “I did see the documentary ‘Happy Valley.’ […] These things really happened, and as an actor, it makes you feel credible. […] You have the real person to digest and sort of channel.”
“The question isn’t just what he knew, it’s what he did about it,” Pacino said. “I think he knew there were complaints. He knew there were rumors. […] I don’t think he was very fond of Sandusky, for whatever reasons — I think there were other reasons.”

Pacino, who said he thought Paterno was already depressed even before the scandal broke, was quick to point out the coach’s culpability remains unclear.

“He did act upon it,” Paterno (I think they meant to say Pacino) said. “He did say he thought someone should look into this. [But] a guy like Paterno — he’s like an emperor, he’s like a king. He didn’t take up with it because it was out of his control. And I think this is a character who’s used to control.”

Sara Ganim, who won a Pulitzer Prize for reporting on the Penn St. scandal, worked as a consultant on the series and was in attendance for the panel. She says the scandal is still being felt in the campus town of Happy Valley.

“[Paterno’s legacy is] still a hotly debated topic,” Ganim said, after being asked about how local Penn St. fans feel about the coach today. “Unfortunately […] it is a gray area for a lot of people. It’s not known one way or another what people knew.”

Levinson said the movie isn’t going to take a stand one way or another.

“I think at the end of the day there will be people who believe [Paterno knew about the abuse] and there will be people who don’t,” Levinson said.

I wonder if ganim realizes that she was a paid shill who was spoon fed this story by Uber-powerful players, or if she actually believes her talents allowed her to be the national weather girl on CNN? Regardless, my blood still boils when I read the sort of ignorant comments from her as underlined above. I mean even she can’t be so obtuse as to believe her minimalist work (ahem, if “it’s not known one way or another what people knew” then why not be a real journalist, finish the story, and go find out?) is the definitive word of truth, can she?

 

[ChiTownLion]

 

[ChiTownLion]

This from another article:
Al Pacino on HBO’s Joe Paterno Movie: ‘The Question Isn’t Just What He Knew, It’s What He Did About It’
Ben Travers
January 11, 2018 8:25PM EST


Al Pacino isn’t exactly unfamiliar with playing historical figures, so far be it from us or anyone to tell him how to prepare for a role. If the Oscar-winning actor — who was Emmy-nominated for playing Phil Spector and won the award for portraying Roy Cohn — doesn’t need to go to the Penn St. University campus to prepare for his role as disgraced college football coach Joe Paterno, he doesn’t have to.

“I didn’t go,” Pacino said, speaking via satellite during HBO’s TCA presentation Thursday afternoon. “I did see the documentary ‘Happy Valley.’ […] These things really happened, and as an actor, it makes you feel credible. […] You have the real person to digest and sort of channel.”
“The question isn’t just what he knew, it’s what he did about it,” Pacino said. “I think he knew there were complaints. He knew there were rumors. […] I don’t think he was very fond of Sandusky, for whatever reasons — I think there were other reasons.”

Pacino, who said he thought Paterno was already depressed even before the scandal broke, was quick to point out the coach’s culpability remains unclear.

“He did act upon it,” Paterno (I think they meant to say Pacino) said. “He did say he thought someone should look into this. [But] a guy like Paterno — he’s like an emperor, he’s like a king. He didn’t take up with it because it was out of his control. And I think this is a character who’s used to control.”

Sara Ganim, who won a Pulitzer Prize for reporting on the Penn St. scandal, worked as a consultant on the series and was in attendance for the panel. She says the scandal is still being felt in the campus town of Happy Valley.

“[Paterno’s legacy is] still a hotly debated topic,” Ganim said, after being asked about how local Penn St. fans feel about the coach today. “Unfortunately […] it is a gray area for a lot of people. It’s not known one way or another what people knew.”

Levinson said the movie isn’t going to take a stand one way or another.

“I think at the end of the day there will be people who believe [Paterno knew about the abuse] and there will be people who don’t,” Levinson said.

I wonder if ganim realizes that she was a paid shill who was spoon fed this story by Uber-powerful players, or if she actually believes her talents allowed her to be the national weather girl on CNN? Regardless, my blood still boils when I read the sort of ignorant comments from her as underlined above. I mean even she can’t be so obtuse as to believe her minimalist work (ahem, if “it’s not known one way or another what people knew” then why not be a real journalist, finish the story, and go find out?) is the definitive word of truth, can she?

 

[ram2020]

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So thought provoking..

 

[anon_xdc8rmuek44eq]

So thought provoking..

I find it interesting that Sandusky seems to have been written out of the movie completely (at least the character of him has - I'm sure his actions will play a huge role). There isn't an actor listed as Jerry Sandusky in the movie's IMDB profile.

 

[pandaczar12]

I hope this movie tackles the important subject of Jason Avant's non-catch in 2005.

 

[Elwood Blues]

Nobody does over the top, sanctimonious monologues better than Pacino. This will be bad. With ganim on board as a consultant, it’s pretty obvious what version of “accurate” they’re peddling.

Hey HBO, we have new emails that prove McQueary’s testimony was embellished by the AG...should we incorporate this evidence into our story?

Nah!!

Totally agree - this will be horrible. Pacino screams and rants in every movie. His Joe will be an unhinged, possibly senile wack job.

 

[BBHorn86]

Hollywood doesn’t do history.

No, but far too many people only get their history from the movies. I read a recent opt-ed in the WSJ about the now released movie The Post as an example... There are liberties the writers took with some of the actual facts as well as leaving other important information out. Doing so creates an intentionally more intense negativity toward the event. Hollywood loves to do this. As such, Hollywood will do Joe no favors... He is everything they can't stand! I will not waste a minute watching this garbage production. Sarah Gamin has destroyed just as many innocent lives as Sandusky but she is cast as a hero! Life can really be unfair at times.

 

[BobPSU92]

Knowing how unfair and inaccurate Hollywood is I'm expecting alot of PSU fans will be a bit angry over this film.
I have a hard time believing they will be fair to Paterno.

Say f*ck you to hollywood, say f*ck you my baby...

 

[Delco Lion]

"Paterno" filmmakers made one thing clear this week: the HBO movie is not about Jerry Sandusky.

The movie instead focuses on Paterno's swift downfall after Sandusky was arrested on child sex abuse charges.

"We didn't want to do the Sandusky pedophile story," said HBO Films president Len Amato, speaking to reporters Thursday during a "Paterno" press conference at the Television Critics Association winter press tour. "That wasn't of interest to us. And we knew we didn't want to do a story that would not embrace the experiences of the victims because that was one of the casualties of the whole episode."

 

[Bob78]

This from another article:
Al Pacino on HBO’s Joe Paterno Movie: ‘The Question Isn’t Just What He Knew, It’s What He Did About It’
Ben Travers
January 11, 2018 8:25PM EST


Al Pacino isn’t exactly unfamiliar with playing historical figures, so far be it from us or anyone to tell him how to prepare for a role. If the Oscar-winning actor — who was Emmy-nominated for playing Phil Spector and won the award for portraying Roy Cohn — doesn’t need to go to the Penn St. University campus to prepare for his role as disgraced college football coach Joe Paterno, he doesn’t have to.

“I didn’t go,” Pacino said, speaking via satellite during HBO’s TCA presentation Thursday afternoon. “I did see the documentary ‘Happy Valley.’ […] These things really happened, and as an actor, it makes you feel credible. […] You have the real person to digest and sort of channel.”
“The question isn’t just what he knew, it’s what he did about it,” Pacino said. “I think he knew there were complaints. He knew there were rumors. […] I don’t think he was very fond of Sandusky, for whatever reasons — I think there were other reasons.”

Pacino, who said he thought Paterno was already depressed even before the scandal broke, was quick to point out the coach’s culpability remains unclear.

“He did act upon it,” Paterno (I think they meant to say Pacino) said. “He did say he thought someone should look into this. [But] a guy like Paterno — he’s like an emperor, he’s like a king. He didn’t take up with it because it was out of his control. And I think this is a character who’s used to control.”

Sara Ganim, who won a Pulitzer Prize for reporting on the Penn St. scandal, worked as a consultant on the series and was in attendance for the panel. She says the scandal is still being felt in the campus town of Happy Valley.

“[Paterno’s legacy is] still a hotly debated topic,” Ganim said, after being asked about how local Penn St. fans feel about the coach today. “Unfortunately […] it is a gray area for a lot of people. It’s not known one way or another what people knew.”

Levinson said the movie isn’t going to take a stand one way or another.

“I think at the end of the day there will be people who believe [Paterno knew about the abuse] and there will be people who don’t,” Levinson said.

I wonder if ganim realizes that she was a paid shill who was spoon fed this story by Uber-powerful players, or if she actually believes her talents allowed her to be the national weather girl on CNN? Regardless, my blood still boils when I read the sort of ignorant comments from her as underlined above. I mean even she can’t be so obtuse as to believe her minimalist work (ahem, if “it’s not known one way or another what people knew” then why not be a real journalist, finish the story, and go find out?) is the definitive word of truth, can she?

Gotta wonder why he thought Paterno was "already depressed before the scandal broke." First I heard that. While I doubt that Joe was depressed, at least it never seemed to me that he was outwardly, I wonder if he may be referring to his cancer and other recent health issues? Do we know for certain just when JVP knew about his cancer? I don't recall seeing anything about that, only assumptions about him having to have known far ahead of Nov. 2011.

Just an odd thing to throw in there without basis, imo. But, could have come from the input of the "expert consultant"..... Yeesh.

 

[AldenT]

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Are they serious with #74 in that photo? That guy looks 50 and is just a fat dude, not anything like any college OL. Wtf.

 

[cavic]

Who’s going to want to watch this? Certainly not penn state fans. And certainly not anyone else...even if the rest of the world believes the bs, ESPECIALLY if they believe the bs, no one is going to be like, “hey you know what I’m in the mood for, a pedophilia movie.”

"Spotlight" brought in almost $100M at the box office. Unfortunately, I think it will have many eager viewers