FC: First Footage from HBO's 'Paterno' film....

[Bob78]

Candidly what I'd like to see made is a film about Paterno's entire, well-documented life as it would force folks to learn about Joe Paterno prior to the media's portrayal of him in November 2011.

Here, here, Zeno.

among many very good sources to get that project underway, including Lou Prato and to a lesser degree Joe Posnanski, they could refer to "The Joe We Know", written and produced by The Men of The Grand Experiment with Eric Porterfield... i.e. former players and football staff themselves, who knew JVP as well as anyone outside of Sue and the family and who can testify to his positive, lasting impact on their lives and so many others.

That would be a film about Paterno that would show his true legacy the way it should be remembered.

@wensilver - maybe a call from you to Hobson at WaPo would get him to make a call to the people behind TJWK? Or at least get him to take a look at the website (below) and watch some of the testimonies and read what motivated these guys to do this.
Porterfield runs Blue-White TV in State College, and the other key players are easy to find.

http://www.grandexperiment.org/

 

[razpsu]

It wouldn’t sell at all. The hope is that they put that stuff in this movie to balance it.

 

[wilbury]

Who’s going to want to watch this? Certainly not penn state fans. And certainly not anyone else...even if the rest of the world believes the bs, ESPECIALLY if they believe the bs, no one is going to be like, “hey you know what I’m in the mood for, a pedophilia movie.”

stop kidding yourself

 

[Fox Chapel Lion II]

Must-miss TV. I would tear my eyes out with a butter knife before I watched one second of this hit job.

 

[razpsu]

A lot of people will watch it. If close to making him look decent 70 percent at least of u.s. will still characterize paterno as being in the wrong .

 

[Diego Badman]

My question: would the Paterno family have any say in how this film gets produced? I really do not know the legal aspects of these types of things. If so, I would hope that the Paterno's get some say as to how Joe is portrayed.

 

[Bob78]

My question: would the Paterno family have any say in how this film gets produced? I really do not know the legal aspects of these types of things. If so, I would hope that the Paterno's get some say as to how Joe is portrayed.

I think they did not have any say. Scott Paterno posted on Twitter way back when that he was being followed on Twitter by a couple of actors who were going to be in the film.... likely one of them was to be him in the film.

I think if they had taken the film from Posnanski's book, the Paternos' side would have more play, imo. But since they decided to concentrate on Nov 2011 and after, and Ganim is being lauded as having a lot of input..... doubt this will look anything at all like what the Paterno family side of the story is. It will look more like the sketchy info Ganim used to win her local reporting award, that people seem to confuse with her winning the Nobel Prize in Journalism. ("Wow! Look at the snow coming down!")

IMDb has the cast listing for the film. Besides JVP, Sue is listed, as is Scott, Jay, Mary Kay, Tim Curley, Tom Bradley, Spanier.... but no one from the BOT is listed, at least not by name. A couple of "Wealthy Donor" credits. How can they show JVP being fired without naming some from the BOT? Protecting the guilty and all, I suppose. I think the film will likely be rather depressing to watch for a pro-JVP person such as me, even if they don't blatantly come out and show him as being intentionally culpable of anything. My guess is the slant will lead you there regardless, and total objectivity will be claimed, but not a reality.

Btw, the guy listed as Bradley looks to be quite a bit heavier than Scrap. Would love to hear his reaction to that if that is the case!

 

[wcicci]

I think they did not have any say. Scott Paterno posted on Twitter way back when that he was being followed on Twitter by a couple of actors who were going to be in the film.... likely one of them was to be him in the film.

I think if they had taken the film from Posnanski's book, the Paternos' side would have more play, imo. But since they decided to concentrate on Nov 2011 and after, and Ganim is being lauded as having a lot of input..... doubt this will look anything at all like what the Paterno family side of the story is. It will look more like the sketchy info Ganim used to win her local reporting award, that people seem to confuse with her winning the Nobel Prize in Journalism. ("Wow! Look at the snow coming down!")

IMDb has the cast listing for the film. Besides JVP, Sue is listed, as is Scott, Jay, Mary Kay, Tim Curley, Tom Bradley, Spanier.... but no one from the BOT is listed, at least not by name. A couple of "Wealthy Donor" credits. How can they show JVP being fired without naming some from the BOT? Protecting the guilty and all, I suppose. I think the film will likely be rather depressing to watch for a pro-JVP person such as me, even if they don't blatantly come out and show him as being intentionally culpable of anything. My guess is the slant will lead you there regardless, and total objectivity will be claimed, but not a reality.

Btw, the guy listed as Bradley looks to be quite a bit heavier than Scrap. Would love to hear his reaction to that if that is the case!

Pacino's comments lead me to believe that it's not a total hatchet job, but it won't be remotely positive for the Paternos. Unfortunately, what's been done can probably never be undone and very good people will have to live with a a false narrative and tarnished legacy for a truly good man.

 

[Ski]

I think they did not have any say. Scott Paterno posted on Twitter way back when that he was being followed on Twitter by a couple of actors who were going to be in the film.... likely one of them was to be him in the film.

I think if they had taken the film from Posnanski's book, the Paternos' side would have more play, imo. But since they decided to concentrate on Nov 2011 and after, and Ganim is being lauded as having a lot of input..... doubt this will look anything at all like what the Paterno family side of the story is. It will look more like the sketchy info Ganim used to win her local reporting award, that people seem to confuse with her winning the Nobel Prize in Journalism. ("Wow! Look at the snow coming down!")

IMDb has the cast listing for the film. Besides JVP, Sue is listed, as is Scott, Jay, Mary Kay, Tim Curley, Tom Bradley, Spanier.... but no one from the BOT is listed, at least not by name. A couple of "Wealthy Donor" credits. How can they show JVP being fired without naming some from the BOT? Protecting the guilty and all, I suppose. I think the film will likely be rather depressing to watch for a pro-JVP person such as me, even if they don't blatantly come out and show him as being intentionally culpable of anything. My guess is the slant will lead you there regardless, and total objectivity will be claimed, but not a reality.

Btw, the guy listed as Bradley looks to be quite a bit heavier than Scrap. Would love to hear his reaction to that if that is the case!

Looking at the cast on IMDB, the actress playing Sara Ganim is listed first and they have one listed as "Drunk / Shirtless / Painted 409 fan". Frank Noonan and "Football Player Shower Fight" are listed as characters too. Yeah, this is going to come out well. :-(

 

[IANit]

Looking at the cast on IMDB, the actress playing Sara Ganim is listed first and they have one listed as "Drunk / Shirtless / Painted 409 fan". Frank Noonan and "Football Player Shower Fight" are listed as characters too. Yeah, this is going to come out well. :-(

Shower fight? Is that when McGloin got knocked out by Curtis Drake?

 

[ChiTownLion]

My question: would the Paterno family have any say in how this film gets produced? I really do not know the legal aspects of these types of things. If so, I would hope that the Paterno's get some say as to how Joe is portrayed.

Pretty sure he said in another tweet to expect a disaster, or shit show.

 

[indynittany]

I think Pacino is going to want to play Joe as a pretty tragic figure. It won't be as bad as some people think it should be, but the fact that SG is consulting and her character appears to be the heroine, suggests it will still be way off the mark.

 

[didier]

Are they serious with #74 in that photo? That guy looks 50 and is just a fat dude, not anything like any college OL. Wtf.

That’s a hefty Tom Bradley in that photo too.

 

[didier]

I find it interesting that Sandusky seems to have been written out of the movie completely (at least the character of him has - I'm sure his actions will play a huge role). There isn't an actor listed as Jerry Sandusky in the movie's IMDB profile.

Wasn’t John Carroll Lynch slated to play him when they first introduced this thing? Think he would have been a great Sandusky.

 

[BiochemPSU]

Pretty awful looking football players in that shot. No wonder we weren't winning during some of those years.

 

[PSUoh90]

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Lol. What stadium is that?

 

[baircub1!]

Saw this last night; it's a quick ad for a bunch of HBO programming in 2018 and there is a really brief clip of the movie - you get a quick shot of Paterno coaching the team and Pacino in action. Go to the :40 second mark. As an aside, was this movie always going to be called 'Paterno'?

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I'm worried that Sarah Ganim was a "consultant" on this project.

However...Pacino does say the movie does not take the direction of trying to find guilt or innocence....its centers on the two weeks of this tragedy...with Pacino who plays Paterno has various flashbacks for historical signifiernce...

 

[Bob78]

I'm worried that Sarah Ganim was a "consultant" on this project.

However...Pacino does say the movie does not take the direction of trying to find guilt or innocence....its centers on the two weeks of this tragedy...with Pacino who plays Paterno has various flashbacks for historical signifiernce...

As I said in an earlier post, they can claim objectivity, but with Ganim as their SME, and with the common narrative, they can subtly or not-so-subtly slant the bias either way. I have complete confidence that they will slant it to uphold her award-winning nonsense about our culture and JVP being the most powerful person yadda yadda. But all the while, they will lead the viewer in a particular direction.

Just my opinion.

 

[84Lion]

I used to like and respect Levinson. Films like Diner, The Natural, Rain Man, and especially Avalon were gems. In recent years, though, Levinson's output has become something less than fantastic (I didn't watch Rock The Casbah but everything I read indicated it was a stinker). Since it appears that the Ganim character gets star billing, this film evidently isn't about Paterno as much as it is about her. Which already has my antennae up that this going to be something "less than the truth" - like putting a bunch of dog poo in a meat wrapper and labeling it filet mignon. I just hope this "movie" stays on HBO and is not released at the theaters.

 

[TenerHallTerror]

nice reminder by Nellie that there are some far more salacious details about Ganim being omitted from the film:

 

[didier]

nice reminder by Nellie that there are some far more salacious details about Ganim being omitted from the film:

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Anyone have any idea what that is referring to? Any guesses?

 

[PrtLng Lion]

Anyone have any idea what that is referring to? Any guesses?

Prostitution? Nah Fina would have loved her for that.

 

[Kiber]

I'm very glad that I canceled my HBO the day after Game of Thrones ended and I'm even more glad that I will not re-new my HBO service until the day Game of Thrones starts back up.

Seriously.... for about 3 years the only time we found ourselves watching HBO was on the 10 Sunday nights when a new GOTs was on. Finally I realized that all I need to do was have the HBO service for the 2-3 months during the GOTs season.

 

[coveydidnt]

nice reminder by Nellie that there are some far more salacious details about Ganim being omitted from the film:

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So glad you posted this snippet from 2012 trial. Its "new" to you? It proves that you never looked at the case file. That's probably why you are so uninformed.

 

[Pinkhippo PeanutButter]

Anyone have any idea what that is referring to? Any guesses?

Had have been the publishing of GJ leaks. More specifically, anger at her keeping her source secret.

 

[didier]

Had have been the publishing of GJ leaks. More specifically, anger at her keeping her source secret.

But I thought he was already being asked about that. The fact that he says "unrelared reasons" suggests he's implying something else.

 

[heckmans]

Saw this last night; it's a quick ad for a bunch of HBO programming in 2018 and there is a really brief clip of the movie - you get a quick shot of Paterno coaching the team and Pacino in action. Go to the :40 second mark. As an aside, was this movie always going to be called 'Paterno'?

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I really hope noone who counts themselves a PSU fan watches even one second of this hit job.

 

[BobPSU92]

I really hope noone who counts themselves a PSU fan watches even one second of this hit job.

I’m sure michasshole will have a watch party.

 

[coveydidnt]

I think it will be important to watch to defend the school & coach against any inaccuracies depicted around the watercooler the next day.

Burying our collective heads in the sand doesn't help anything.

 

[heckmans]

I think it will be important to watch to defend the school & coach against any inaccuracies depicted around the watercooler the next day.

Burying our collective heads in the sand doesn't help anything.

To each their own. I choose not to reward people who attack me.

 

[maxxedout]

No, but far too many people only get their history from the movies. I read a recent opt-ed in the WSJ about the now released movie The Post as an example... There are liberties the writers took with some of the actual facts as well as leaving other important information out. Doing so creates an intentionally more intense negativity toward the event. Hollywood loves to do this. As such, Hollywood will do Joe no favors... He is everything they can't stand! I will not waste a minute watching this garbage production. Sarah Gamin has destroyed just as many innocent lives as Sandusky but she is cast as a hero! Life can really be unfair at times.

Are you ****ing serious?

Look in the damn mirror and see if you believe this horseshit. Sandusky RAPED CHILDREN.

You have zero credibility from here on out.

 

[coveydidnt]

To each their own. I choose not to reward people who attack me.

Tis true.

But if you are already an HBO subscriber, they won't know whether you watched or not (unless you use their streaming service private a Nielsen family).

Frankly if you want to actually send a message you should be a subscriber, stream it, and cancel right afterwards (if it's bad).

 

[NittanyLionRoar]

There are "wealthy donor" credits. Yeah, they're just skipping straight to the "cover up" angle. I think what's horrifying about this movie is that based on the credits, you can tell they're not just going after Paterno, they're going after all of us. "Drunken 409 fan?" WTF! They're going to pitch that this had everything to do with our culture, that we're equally culpable, and that by our admiration of Paterno, he was under immense pressure to cover this up, and that he did.

This makes me sick and I am never going to give a dime to HBO.

 

[AWS1022]

Prostitution? Nah Fina would have loved her for that.

It ain’t prostitution if you do it for free. Then it’s just being a slut.

 

[AWS1022]

Anxiously awaiting the movie about Harvey Weinstein.

 

[coveydidnt]

There are "wealthy donor" credits. Yeah, they're just skipping straight to the "cover up" angle. I think what's horrifying about this movie is that based on the credits, you can tell they're not just going after Paterno, they're going after all of us. "Drunken 409 fan?" WTF! They're going to pitch that this had everything to do with our culture, that we're equally culpable, and that by our admiration of Paterno, he was under immense pressure to cover this up, and that he did.

This makes me sick and I am never going to give a dime to HBO.

They do seem to be skipping directly to November 2011. Which was a bad time.

There are some bits that are true & support the football-first narrative. Not by Joe, or even by the school. As an example, it's true and shameful that some jerks overturned a newsvan after Joe was fired. I don't recall if Joe ever spoke about it, but it's not the reaction he would have wanted. He was a fighter, but, he wouldn't have wanted a riot on his behalf. If "Drunken 409 fan" is portrayed as part of the riot, it's probably not that unfair (but doesn't tell the full story of what happened).

 

[BBHorn86]

Are you ****ing serious?

Look in the damn mirror and see if you believe this horseshit. Sandusky RAPED CHILDREN.

You have zero credibility from here on out.

As if having your respect mattered to me. Don't flatter yourself.

 

[maxxedout]

As if having your respect mattered to me. Don't flatter yourself.

Can you admit to the absurdity of what you said?