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FC: Harbaugh's World tour continues. Taking team on African safari

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Good for the players and staff but seriously if you are in academia or general student body, you must be thinking wtf, we are paying for this.My guess is the AD will not present the credit card until after the OSU W. The guy is becoming a side show man with a horn glued on the horse to make it look like a unicorn.

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Two years ago, Jim Harbaugh took his Michigan team on a field trip to Italy. Earlier this year, the Wolverines visited France with a stop in Normandy during the trip.

Where in the world will Harbaugh go next? It looks like South Africa is the next stop on the Michigan world tour.

"We're going to [South] Africa," Harbaugh told WTKA in Ann Arbor. "We're going to Johannesburg and Cape Town, and we're going to do a safari. How about that? How about a safari?"

Harbaugh also specified that the sharks and the coastline were what he's most excited about in Cape Town.
 
SLion said:
Good for the players and staff but seriously if you are in academia or general student body, you must be thinking wtf, we are paying for this.My guess is the AD will not present the credit card until after the OSU W. The guy is becoming a side show man with a horn glued on the horse to make it look like a unicorn.

From CBS Sports

Two years ago, Jim Harbaugh took his Michigan team on a field trip to Italy. Earlier this year, the Wolverines visited France with a stop in Normandy during the trip.

Where in the world will Harbaugh go next? It looks like South Africa is the next stop on the Michigan world tour.

"We're going to [South] Africa," Harbaugh told WTKA in Ann Arbor. "We're going to Johannesburg and Cape Town, and we're going to do a safari. How about that? How about a safari?"

Harbaugh also specified that the sharks and the coastline were what he's most excited about in Cape Town.
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I know people love to hate on JH and he definitely needs to worry about his main job which is to win football games, but he is presenting a lot of these kids (student-athletes) w/ opportunities that they never would get otherwise. I understand if people have concerns from the financial aspect of it, but I am assuming the football program makes more than enough to provide these kids with a 10 day experience and not have to dip into the general budget.

PS- seeing the great whites (albeit from the relative safety of a cage) was an incredible experience, so I can understand his interest
 
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mcruny42 said:
I know people love to hate on JH and he definitely needs to worry about his main job which is to win football games, but he is presenting a lot of these kids (student-athletes) w/ vacations that they never would get otherwise. I understand if people have concerns from the financial aspect of it, but I am assuming the football program makes more than enough to provide these kids with a 10 day experience and not have to dip into the general budget.

PS- seeing the great whites (albeit from the relative safety of a cage) was an incredible experience, so I can understand his interest
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FIFY
 
It does seem that Michigan is going a bit overboard. He is using these trips for PR and, frankly, to divert the focus from his lack of performance on the field (especially with regard to Ohio St).

It’s going to cause friction in the athletic department with the other sports teams. Right now that’s buried because Michigan folks still see Jimmy as their savior.

Give it another year or two of finishing 3rd or 4th in the division (with the traditional loss to Ohio St) and the underlying heat will burst to the surface IMO.
 
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Is this a possible Title IX violation?


“Title IX

The U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights(OCR) enforces, among other statutes, Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972. Title IX protects people from discrimination based on sex in education programs or activities that receive Federal financial assistance. Title IX states that:

No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance.”


Is the women’s lacrosse team going? Does the football program receive any Federal financial assistance in the form of scholarships or other forms of Federal financial assistance?
 
I don't see the issue here to be honest. He's not breaking NCAA rules. It definitely isn't hurting the kids. He needs to win more but complaining about this just seems petty.
 
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Traveling to Africa requires several hundred dollars worth of shots and vaccinations. For a squad of 86 plus this could be costly.
 
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psu00 said:
It does seem that Michigan is going a bit overboard. He is using these trips for PR and, frankly, to divert the focus from his lack of performance on the field (especially with regard to Ohio St).

It’s going to cause friction in the athletic department with the other sports teams. Right now that’s buried because Michigan folks still see Jimmy as their savior.

Give it another year or two of finishing 3rd or 4th in the division (with the traditional loss to Ohio St) and the underlying heat will burst to the surface IMO.
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Sideshow Jimmah can only distract for so long. Eventually, the powers that be in the AD are going to call his bluff and shut down his little 3-card Monty game.
 
These trips have been privately funded by a booster, Bobby Kotik who is the CEO of Activision.
 
78SweetRevenge said:
I don't see the issue here to be honest. He's not breaking NCAA rules. It definitely isn't hurting the kids. He needs to win more but complaining about this just seems petty.
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It used to be breaking NCAA rules to give a kid a sandwich. This has to be raising some red flags somewhere.
 
Lion Lineage said:
Is this a possible Title IX violation?


“Title IX

The U.S. Department of Education’s Office for Civil Rights(OCR) enforces, among other statutes, Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972. Title IX protects people from discrimination based on sex in education programs or activities that receive Federal financial assistance. Title IX states that:

No person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving Federal financial assistance.”


Is the women’s lacrosse team going? Does the football program receive any Federal financial assistance in the form of scholarships or other forms of Federal financial assistance?
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It's not a Title IX violation.
 
Aberguy52 said:
These trips have been privately funded by a booster, Bobby Kotik who is the CEO of Activision.
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How is this not an impermissible benefit? If they sold cookies to go, okay then...they raised the money themselves. But a booster paying for a vacation for football players?
 
I'm surprised the NCAA hasn't banned these yet. I mean there are already two Harbaugh rules on the books.

And South Africa? Will they be taking extra security?
 
It should be banned. It creates disproportionate playing field in recruiting. If you are Louisville football, playing on high level and trying to compete with UM for recruits but your AD makes $50m less a year so you can't offer African safaris? How is that fair?
 
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Aberguy52 said:
These trips have been privately funded by a booster, Bobby Kotik who is the CEO of Activision.
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Looks like Don Graham of the Graham Group and Graham Partners split the Paris trip. Folks from York probably know Don Graham. He is a UM grad. These trips cost aprox. $800K.
 
Delco Lion said:
Looks like Don Graham of the Graham Group and Graham Partners split the Paris trip. Folks from York probably know Don Graham. He is a UM grad.
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Ridiculous. How is this allowed? Pegula could give Franklin money for an outback adventure is Australia and none of NCAA's business? Really?
 
interrobang said:
I'm surprised the NCAA hasn't banned these yet. I mean there are already two Harbaugh rules on the books.

And South Africa? Will they be taking extra security?
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As long as scUM takes on the trip one non-football player/regular student, the NCAA will adjudicate the same way they did in the UNC academic fraud case.
 
SLion said:
It should be banned. It creates disproportionate playing field in recruiting. If you are Louisville football, playing on high level and trying to compete with UM for recruits but your AD makes $50m less a year so you can't offer African safaris? How is that fair?
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But everything isn't even--see facilities. Is it fair that we have larger donors? Better/bigger stadium? I mean, everything is disproportionate, right? Why are we worried about a 10 day safari? You don't think we could do that is wanted to? Some schools (I don't think Louisville is the best example, let's say Cincinnati) are always going to be at a disadvantage.
 
interrobang said:
I'm surprised the NCAA hasn't banned these yet. I mean there are already two Harbaugh rules on the books.

And South Africa? Will they be taking extra security?
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When my son was in college and playing a D-1 sport, his team took an overseas trip one year. At that time I was told the NCAA allowed such trips once every 4 years. Either he’s ignoring the rule or it has changed in the last 8 years.
 
I don't have problem with this.
Football generates millions for the University. They can go in as many vacations as they like.
It's not going to help him win more games so whatever.
 
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