FC: How cool would it be to show up for jury duty with a former POTUS.

[simons96]

commie

 

[ILLINOISLION]

I also don't agree at all with his politics but it would be interesting to listen to him try to use the English language. I think Clinton would easily be the most entertaining.

I can see it now - Bill Clinton and ericstratton-rush chairman out wrecking chicks together!

 

[NapaNit]

Would be far 'cooler' if W visited the San Antonio Military Medical Center on a regular basis.

 

[SEPATOPTEN]

I can see it now - Bill Clinton and ericstratton-rush chairman out wrecking chicks together!

That is wild. It would be cool.

 

[fairgambit]

Would be far 'cooler' if W visited the San Antonio Military Medical Center on a regular basis.

President Bush often visited wounded troops at Walter Reed, unannounced and outside the public eye, while in the White House. He has continued the practice (private visits) since he left office.

 

[The Spin Meister]

Would be far 'cooler' if W visited the San Antonio Military Medical Center on a regular basis.

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W often entertains wounded vets at his ranch. Has annual mountain bike ride with wounded warriors to raise money and awareness. Amazing thing to see guys missing arms and/or legs out riding dirt trails.

 

[NapaNit]

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W often entertains wounded vets at his ranch. Has annual mountain bike ride with wounded warriors to raise money and awareness. Amazing thing to see guys missing arms and/or legs out riding dirt trails.

Would that be his awareness that he's raising?

 

[Lion8286]

Would that be his awareness that he's raising?

Hillary should do a bike ride with the Benghazi survivors. Wait a minute, did anyone survive?

 

[NapaNit]

Hillary should do a bike ride with the Benghazi survivors. Wait a minute, did anyone survive?

I would have no problem with that were it posssible.

 

[91Joe95]

From review...

The future president joined the Guard in May 1968. Almost immediately, he began an extended period of training. Six weeks of basic training. Fifty-three weeks of flight training. Twenty-one weeks of fighter-interceptor training.

That was 80 weeks to begin with, and there were other training periods thrown in as well. It was full-time work.

By the time it was over, Bush had served nearly two years.

• Not two years of weekends. Two years.

After training, Bush kept flying, racking up hundreds of hours in F-102 jets.

As he did, he accumulated points toward his National Guard service requirements.

At the time, guardsmen were required to accumulate a minimum of

• 50 points to meet their yearly obligation.

According to records released earlier this year,

• Bush earned 253 points in his first year, May 1968 to May 1969 (since he joined in May 1968, his service thereafter was measured on a May-to-May basis).

[ie... OVER 5 Years of Points in his 1st Year]​

• Bush earned 340 points in 1969-1970.

[ie... OVER 6 1/2 Years of Points in his 2nd Year]​

• He earned 137 points in 1970-1971.

[ie... OVER 2 1/2 Years of Points in his 3rd Year]​

• And he earned 112 points in 1971-1972.

[ie... OVER 2 Years of Points in his 4th Year]
​

The numbers indicate that in his first four years, Bush not only showed up, he showed up a lot. Did you know that?

[ie. OVER 16.8 Years of points Requirements completed.]
​

That brings the story to May 1972 — the time that has been the focus of so many news reports — when Bush “deserted” (according to anti-Bush filmmaker Michael Moore) or went “AWOL” (according to Terry McAuliffe, chairman of the Democratic National Committee).

Bush asked for permission to go to Alabama to work on a Senate campaign. His superior officers said OK. Requests like that weren’t unusual, says retired Col. William Campenni, who flew with Bush in 1970 and 1971.

“In 1972, there was an enormous glut of pilots,”
Campenni says.

• “The Vietnam War was winding down, and

• the Air Force was putting pilots in desk jobs.

In ’72 or ’73, if you were a pilot, active or Guard, and you had an obligation and wanted to get out, no problem.

In fact, you were helping them solve their problem.”
​

So Bush stopped flying.

• From May 1972 to May 1973, he earned just 56 points — not much, but enough to meet his requirement.

Then, in 1973, as Bush made plans to leave the Guard and go to Harvard Business School, he again started showing up frequently.

• In June and July of 1973, he accumulated 56 points, enough to meet the minimum requirement for the 1973-1974 year.

Then, at his request, he was given permission to go. Bush received an honorable discharge after serving five years, four months and five days of his original six-year commitment.

By that time, however, he had accumulated enough points in each year to cover six years of service.

[ie. OVER 19 Years of points Requirements completed... More than 3 Times the requirement]
​

During his service, Bush received high marks as a pilot.

A 1970 evaluation said Bush “clearly stands out as a top notch fighter interceptor pilot” and was “a natural leader whom his contemporaries look to for leadership.”

A 1971 evaluation called Bush “an exceptionally fine young officer and pilot” who “continually flies intercept missions with the unit to increase his proficiency even further.” And a 1972 evaluation called Bush “an exceptional fighter interceptor pilot and officer.”​

Yep, sounds like he went AWOL. I seem to remember hearing he wanted to go to Vietnam but was denied. Now, true or not, there was still no way that he would ever have been allowed to go over. His dad was way too high up in the CIA hierarchy to risk being compromised.

 

[LafayetteBear]

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W often entertains wounded vets at his ranch. Has annual mountain bike ride with wounded warriors to raise money and awareness. Amazing thing to see guys missing arms and/or legs out riding dirt trails.

Bet he beats the tar out of the vets on those rides. Just kidding. Really.

 

[T J]

From review...

The future president joined the Guard in May 1968. Almost immediately, he began an extended period of training. Six weeks of basic training. Fifty-three weeks of flight training. Twenty-one weeks of fighter-interceptor training.

That was 80 weeks to begin with, and there were other training periods thrown in as well. It was full-time work.

By the time it was over, Bush had served nearly two years.

• Not two years of weekends. Two years.

After training, Bush kept flying, racking up hundreds of hours in F-102 jets.

As he did, he accumulated points toward his National Guard service requirements.

At the time, guardsmen were required to accumulate a minimum of

• 50 points to meet their yearly obligation.

According to records released earlier this year,

• Bush earned 253 points in his first year, May 1968 to May 1969 (since he joined in May 1968, his service thereafter was measured on a May-to-May basis).

[ie... OVER 5 Years of Points in his 1st Year]​

• Bush earned 340 points in 1969-1970.

[ie... OVER 6 1/2 Years of Points in his 2nd Year]​

• He earned 137 points in 1970-1971.

[ie... OVER 2 1/2 Years of Points in his 3rd Year]​

• And he earned 112 points in 1971-1972.

[ie... OVER 2 Years of Points in his 4th Year]
​

The numbers indicate that in his first four years, Bush not only showed up, he showed up a lot. Did you know that?

[ie. OVER 16.8 Years of points Requirements completed.]
​

That brings the story to May 1972 — the time that has been the focus of so many news reports — when Bush “deserted” (according to anti-Bush filmmaker Michael Moore) or went “AWOL” (according to Terry McAuliffe, chairman of the Democratic National Committee).

Bush asked for permission to go to Alabama to work on a Senate campaign. His superior officers said OK. Requests like that weren’t unusual, says retired Col. William Campenni, who flew with Bush in 1970 and 1971.

“In 1972, there was an enormous glut of pilots,”
Campenni says.

• “The Vietnam War was winding down, and

• the Air Force was putting pilots in desk jobs.

In ’72 or ’73, if you were a pilot, active or Guard, and you had an obligation and wanted to get out, no problem.

In fact, you were helping them solve their problem.”
​

So Bush stopped flying.

• From May 1972 to May 1973, he earned just 56 points — not much, but enough to meet his requirement.

Then, in 1973, as Bush made plans to leave the Guard and go to Harvard Business School, he again started showing up frequently.

• In June and July of 1973, he accumulated 56 points, enough to meet the minimum requirement for the 1973-1974 year.

Then, at his request, he was given permission to go. Bush received an honorable discharge after serving five years, four months and five days of his original six-year commitment.

By that time, however, he had accumulated enough points in each year to cover six years of service.

[ie. OVER 19 Years of points Requirements completed... More than 3 Times the requirement]
​

During his service, Bush received high marks as a pilot.

A 1970 evaluation said Bush “clearly stands out as a top notch fighter interceptor pilot” and was “a natural leader whom his contemporaries look to for leadership.”

A 1971 evaluation called Bush “an exceptionally fine young officer and pilot” who “continually flies intercept missions with the unit to increase his proficiency even further.” And a 1972 evaluation called Bush “an exceptional fighter interceptor pilot and officer.”​

Note the LAST soldier left Vietnam in March of 1973. Bush finished his final requirements AFTER the War was OVER and ALL Servicemen were already out of Vietnam. Bush had flown his high number of missions during the war years, to be fully prepared, if their unit was called to Vietnam.

As the war ended, the Defense Department decided to change the mission of Bush's Texas Air National Guard unit and they set out to turn over all of the Fighter Jets that Bush was qualified to fly, over to the US Air Force for use by US Air Force pilots returning from Vietnam. There was no reason for a jet fighter pilot with Bush's qualifications to stay on as a Texas Air National Guard member.

The government actively encouraged National Guard pilots to finish their requirements and move on. Bush completed his final requirements after the war was over and was Honorably Discharged.

 

[T J]

Yep, sounds like he went AWOL. I seem to remember hearing he wanted to go to Vietnam but was denied. Now, true or not, there was still no way that he would ever have been allowed to go over. His dad was way too high up in the CIA hierarchy to risk being compromised.

You are correct, that Bush volunteered to go to Vietnam, as the CBS outside panel clearly concluded.

But the corrupt CBS and the false attack dog media claims were really rotten against Bush.

Mary Mapes at CBS had information PRIOR to airing the Sept 8, 2004 Hit Piece against Bush, that President Bush, while in the TexANG [Texas Air National Guard] DID VOLUNTEER for Service in Vietnam, but was turned down in favor of more experienced pilots.

Mapes was told in 1999, by a TexANG Instructor who served at that time. "Lieutenant Bush did want to got to Vietnam, but others went first." Similarly, several others advised Mapes in 1999 and in 2004 before Sept 8, that Lieutenant Bush had volunteered to go to Vietnam, but did not have enough flight hours to qualify. ​

Well known liberal, CBS Producer Mapes was fired for her corruption and for other frauds about Bush that she, Dan Rather and others at CBS foisted on the American public, to try to throw a US election.

Liberal News Anchor Icon Dan Rather was removed from his anchor position and others of their co-conspirators in the Fraud against Americans were also fired from CBS