Ugh. Remember when Brandon Lee was killed similarly filming The Crow.
FC/OT: Alec Baldwin involved in fatal accidental shooting on set…
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Uh. He discharged a “prop” firearm in the direction of real people?
I remember a show from the mid-80s where the lead actor accidentally killed himself with a prop gun. Surprised they can't make these things realistic looking/sounding without being deadly.
I can't read the article (subscription required).
'Rock star director of photography' Halyna Hutchins remembered by colleagues
Hutchins died on Thursday when a prop gun was discharged by actor Alec Baldwin on the set of Rust.
metro.co.uk
Stunning. No idea how this still happens.
That was Jon-Erik Hexum - it was a suicide I believe. I don't like Baldwin, he seems like a bully but I wouldn't wish this on anyone - it was an accident but you still have to live with it. This should never happen after what happened to Brandon Lee many years ago.
I wonder if OSHA is involved in movie set safety standards ?
It’s hard to imagine how this could happen as long as movies have been made using firearms.
It reads like a real gun with real bullets was mixed with the prop guns. Awful.
It’s hard to imagine how this could happen as long as movies have been made using firearms.
It reads like a real gun with real bullets was mixed with the prop guns. Awful.
No--accidental--and a prop mistake too. There's still a charge in it and paper wadding, which can cause damage if close enough.
I thought they were playing Russian Roulette, which was the first time I had ever heard the term and didn't know what it was.
The reports indicate that a second person was injured--that sounds more like the gun exploded.
Which makes sense until you ask yourself why Baldwin wasn’t injured is this is what happened.
As best as I can recall, he did shoot himself but it wasn't a suicide. It was an accident.
EDIT: I see LionJim posted a link with more details.
Hollywood and their guns. I remember watching a few making of [insert movie name] shows where apparently using real guns with live ammo is actually fairly common on movie sets. They are handled by and shot by trained professionals to provide realism. Given today's special effects maybe they should start eliminating guns, both real and props (even props are often real, working guns) from the set.
OSHA. Yeah, after the fact. It's what they do.
I heard the primer charge was left in the bullet. So evidently that's the "safety standard" a movie set employs.
I wouldn't be caught anywhere near a movie set which has guns and ammo. That said, I heard it was an accidental discharge. But even still, you never point a gun at a person unless you intend to use it. It's called muzzle discipline and it's soooo easy to violate while handling a handgun. And if the movie script calls for pointing a gun at another actor then live ammo shouldn't be anywhere near the set. And why the need for bullets? It's plain crazy. An unfortunate chain of events.
One of my good friends growing up was Rochelle Davis's (Sarah in The Crow) mother. Rochelle Davis was her stage name.
Throw all the flags you want, I'm not posting pictures.
With today's technology why can't they use unloaded guns (or plastic gun replicas) that make no sounds and just dub in gunshots on the sound track?
Developing story, but it appears the .45 caliber bullet passed through one person and lodged in another near her spine.
Oddly enough the IATSE (basically the union that represents movie workers) just threatened to strike over unsafe working conditions.
Right name but not suicide. He was fooling around and put the gun to his head and fired. SMH.
+1.
Wait? What? there was actual ammunition in the gun? I thought it was "wadding"? WTF?
This highlights the part I don’t understand. It wasn’t another actor/actress that was killed. So how was it being handled?
That is one of my "very good movies nobody has ever heard of". JT was really good as was the female lead.
Apparently even blanks can harm people in odd situations. I've read that law enforcement and arms specialists are involved in preparing these guns. They don't just leave it up to Hollywood personnel.
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Can he face any type of criminal charges with this? I would imagine the families are going to have all kinds of civil suits against him ...
The BBC gave a brief description of how Brandon Lee's accident happened.
"In 1993, Brandon Lee - the 28-year-old son of the late martial-arts star Bruce Lee - died on set after being accidentally shot with a prop gun while filming a death scene for the film The Crow.
It was later determined that the gun used had earlier fired a round that caused a cartridge to become lodged in the barrel. When blank rounds were later fired, the cartridge was dislodged and released."
It's hard to tell what happened in this case.
Alec Baldwin fatally shoots woman with prop gun on movie set
A man is also being treated in hospital after the firearm was discharged on set in New Mexico.
www.bbc.com
Yeah. Why would there even be a bullet ?I heard the primer charge was left in the bullet. So evidently that's the "safety standard" a movie set employs.
Don’t they use blanks ?
I would have to think that the crew and actors are required to undergo firearms safety training.
When someone hands you a gun, you are responsible to check if it is loaded. Now with it being a prop, he could have opened the gun and saw rounds but assumed they were blanks. I am sure a civil suit will be started
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Doesn't change of OSHA rules often require change in law that creates regulations? Just curious.
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