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FC OT: The 10 Best Places to Live in Pennsylvania

I live in a very nice part of the Lehigh Valley, and have worked in a former company's facilities all over PA and have family/friends throughout the state. THe nicest municipalities in PA are found in the Philly suburbs, some of which are on your list, and 99% of the rest of the state does not even come close. The Philly area, Lehigh Valley, Lancaster County and parts of central PA are healthy with growth and opportunity, but the rest of PA feels like death. It's the unfortunate truth. At one point in my career for about 5 or 6 years (2005-2010) I did a lot of work in western PA and it was severe depression out there. The coal region is the same sense of death as well. Some towns may fall to ruins like the ghost towns of the west.

Lancaster Co. was paradise in the 60's and 70's. Too much "growth and opportunity" ruined a lot of it. Outlet malls on some of the best farmland in the world. What a shame.
 
Lancaster Co. was paradise in the 60's and 70's. Too much "growth and opportunity" ruined a lot of it. Outlet malls on some of the best farmland in the world. What a shame.
I get ya, but I live in suburbia and when we go down to lancaster county it still has a special feel to it for me. I also love the towns like Lititz.
 
I live in a very nice part of the Lehigh Valley, and have worked in a former company's facilities all over PA and have family/friends throughout the state. THe nicest municipalities in PA are found in the Philly suburbs, some of which are on your list, and 99% of the rest of the state does not even come close. The Philly area, Lehigh Valley, Lancaster County and parts of central PA are healthy with growth and opportunity, but the rest of PA feels like death. It's the unfortunate truth. At one point in my career for about 5 or 6 years (2005-2010) I did a lot of work in western PA and it was severe depression out there. The coal region is the same sense of death as well. Some towns may fall to ruins like the ghost towns of the west.
For me, this is the most accurate view of the state. You have to view “quality of life” thru the prism of “greater area” not “municipality”. So when Camp Hill is considered the best place to live, does anyone really think the greater Harrisburg area is the best place to live in the state? Most would say no. Its not particularly beautiful, the bar, restaurant scene is average, and there are no major league sports teams located there. And the best way to judge quality of life for me is, are people moving there? That would be a resounding, NO.

Its ironic for me that Conshohocken is so high because my daughter lives there, and I have visited many times and find it nice. But you really have to look at it in terms of “Greater Philadelphia”. In that context, its a growing area and people want to live there. Entertainment is off the charts, great bar and restaurant scene all over, and of course professional and collegiate sports.

Lehigh Valley is very beautiful, too, and is an easy drive to Philly Metro, and people want to live there. The Susquehanna Valley (York, Lancaster, Harrisburg)- depends where you live. Harrisburg not so much, but Hershey on thru Lancaster is very beautiful and is growing as well.

York, imo, gets a bad wrap because if you head just a little bit south (Greater York) along the 83-corridor it is a vibrant growing area. There are small towns like Jacobus, Loganville, Glen Rock, Stewartstown, Shrewsbury, and New Freedom that are continuously growing. This region as a whole is referred to as Southern York County, and is an easy drive to Baltimore Metro. That explains its growth, it is basically a Maryland “bedroom community”. I live in Shrewsbury which is only 26 miles from the Baltimore beltway.

I am not as familiar with Pittsburgh, only been there a couple of times. Looking down at it from Mt Washington at night is one of the most stunning cities to look at in the Country. The City and its inner suburbs are beautiful, but once you get about a 1/2 hour out I see a lot of small towns in decline. Why is that? If you look at other nearby large metros, Baltimore, D.C.. Philadelphia-that is not the case. To me that is very troubling. And Pittsburgh always gets rave reviews from national publications for quality of life but it never seems to grow.

Pittsburgh is a paradox.
 
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I live in a very nice part of the Lehigh Valley, and have worked in a former company's facilities all over PA and have family/friends throughout the state. THe nicest municipalities in PA are found in the Philly suburbs, some of which are on your list, and 99% of the rest of the state does not even come close. The Philly area, Lehigh Valley, Lancaster County and parts of central PA are healthy with growth and opportunity, but the rest of PA feels like death. It's the unfortunate truth. At one point in my career for about 5 or 6 years (2005-2010) I did a lot of work in western PA and it was severe depression out there. The coal region is the same sense of death as well. Some towns may fall to ruins like the ghost towns of the west.
LMT = Lower Macungie Township? Just a semi-educated guess. That is my hometown but I left a long time ago.
 
Can walk out the back door and climb with the Mathews, city sewer and water, base 100 mbps www speed, a great YMCA, mimicking the best health clubs, a hospital and a Walmart! What else could a person want:)?
 
You’re good! Yes.
I have my moments, lol. I still have family there so I visit often. It's actually a nice suburban area but I don't like being an hour+ to a major airport, couldn't see myself living there. Great schools, which I didn't realize when I attended them but now that I live in a city I'm realizing how much better my public education was compared to what I see now.
 
I'm from Lancaster and I love Lititz, and I think it would be a nice place to consider for retirement. But PA 501 is the only route into and out of Lancaster from Lititz, and I would never want to be reliant on 501 for anything. One of the worst roads in the state.
 
This rating scale is bizarre. They rate a community higher because housing is more expensive and taxes are higher? Swarthmore??? Yes it's lovely but a nice house on a nice block is $450k and if it has a decent yard, you will be paying $15k a year in property tax. Taxes in Delco are insane.

This is like a housing equivalent to the US News college rankings -- in which a college gets a higher ranking simply for raising its tuition. Makes no sense whatsoever.

These lists always strike me as bogus. They seem to be an exercise in data analysis rather than a value assessment of the quality of life. Of course different people have different priorities based on their individual circumstances such as need for healthcare or quality of the school systems. You couldn’t pay me to live in Conshohocken or Ridley Park. Really, does Ridley Park have any restaurants which serve fois gras?
 
I have my moments, lol. I still have family there so I visit often. It's actually a nice suburban area but I don't like being an hour+ to a major airport, couldn't see myself living there. Great schools, which I didn't realize when I attended them but now that I live in a city I'm realizing how much better my public education was compared to what I see now.
Yeah I love the area and the school system is a big reason we live here. It is getting crowded but I have been told by somebody in the know that we are hitting a lid with zoned developable land here (only one mega development in the works)... as such the new development is moving to upper mac which is exploding in population. I totally get the airport thing and LVI has been totally mismanaged over the years. I myself fly out of Philly when need be but that is a terrible drive from the north and quite frankly a low quality airport!
 
Which is why I live in Montco! They are. Ice but expensive as all get out.

Collegeville got the love. It is nice, I am one town over. Great location, great amenities, close enough to the city without the riff raff! Love it in this area.

they are smoking crack on Conshohocken! That place is a hole, unless you like major highways in your back yard.
I'm with you. Lived in Collegeville for a dozen years, and am in Skippack now. Still in the 'burbs but minutes away from where it's less congested, more old fashioned like the rest of PA. I like the blend. School district in the Top 10-15 in PA doesn't hurt either.

They've done a great job in Conshy since the 90's. Fantastic area for 20-somethings. The home prices there have gone absolutely nuts, which tells you all you need to know. It's not my preference at this stage of my life, but for a lot of people it's the perfect blend of city and suburbs.

Chester, Montgomery, and Bucks are full of great places to live
 
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I'm with you. Lived in Collegeville for a dozen years, and am in Skippack now. Still in the 'burbs but minutes away from where it's less congested, more old fashioned like the rest of PA. I like the blend. School district in the Top 10-15 in PA doesn't hurt either.

They've done a great job in Conshy since the 90's. Fantastic area for 20-somethings. The home prices there have gone absolutely nuts, which tells you all you need to know. It's not my preference at this stage of my life, but for a lot of people it's the perfect blend of city and suburbs.

Chester, Montgomery, and Bucks are full of great places to live
What a great selling point they showed for Collegeville... a vacant bar/restaurant/inn/whatever that they can’t give away. :rolleyes:
 
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What a great selling point they showed for Collegeville... a vacant bar/restaurant/inn/whatever that they can’t give away. :rolleyes:
HA! Didn't even notice that. Dummies. Place has been there since early 1800's I think, but the creek comes up higher than it used to because of development. Not sure if it's still there because it's considered historic, or because there's no way to use that land. What a dumb choice of pictures
 
In Tuesday(?)'s Lancaster Online -
Back-to-back articles on:
1. More outlet stores going under ("The Shoppes at" ? A Farm Used to be Here);
2. Big new shopping and residential development coming to Millersville.

Best farmland in the country, and they won't be happy until it's all paved over.

Glad i grew up in the then-wilds of Lancaster Co. It was paradise.
 
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No. That is Stella's which is also really, really good. Had dinner there about a month ago with my girlfriend. It's owned by Iron Chef Jose Garces.

Nektar is a wine bar on Mechanic Street. It's across the street from the Bucks County Playhouse.
Spent New Years Eve at the Ghost Light below Stella’s. They actually had a Zadars sign.
 
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